August Wrap-up / 2024 Box Office / Movie Musings
This week we wrap up our thoughts on our 80's summer comedy retrospective by sharing our highlights and ranking the films we watched. Followed by a look back at the state of the box office which showed some signs of recovery after an abysmal Spring, although films were still anchored by IP juggernauts and sequels. Then we highlight the films we recap some of the films we watched this summer on an extended Movie Musings segment.
00:59 Recap of 80s Summer Comedies
08:14 Summer Box Office Performance
13:11 Extended Movie Musings - Catching up many films Nathan and Bee watched this summer
35:48 Conclusion and Sign-Off
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Transcript
Hey everyone.
Speaker:Welcome to back to the frame rates bonus episode, August wrap up show.
Speaker:We do this once a month where we dive into what we've been doing over the
Speaker:past month, and if you look at our past retrospective series, fun little
Speaker:show that we do every once in a while, we're going to be looking back at our
Speaker:eighties summer comedies that we did this past month and just kind of like
Speaker:hobnob about what we've been watching.
Speaker:What we've been doing with me is.
Speaker:B.
Speaker:And hello.
Speaker:Well, we are at the end of August, the end of the summer, end of the end of an era.
Speaker:And yeah, I'd like to talk about in general.
Speaker:The films that we watched and I know you got a chance to catch
Speaker:up on, on the great outdoors.
Speaker:I know you weren't around for that review, but I guess, I guess we could
Speaker:get right into that because that's the one movie that you weren't around for.
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:We, just to recap the movies that were, were, we watched for this.
Speaker:Retrospective where Ernest goes to camp, great outdoors, and one
Speaker:crazy summer, which we reviewed a couple of weeks ago, but
Speaker:we're going to, we're going to rank these films and talk about
Speaker:our highlights, surprises, things.
Speaker:Maybe we want to forget about these, but we'll get into it.
Speaker:So tell me.
Speaker:About with these with these three films, but first, I guess I will
Speaker:mention what, what, what what did you think of the great outdoors?
Speaker:Cause you had a chance to catch up on that.
Speaker:Finally, I did.
Speaker:And, you know, when you had proposed this sort of genre to go
Speaker:through, I was like, I am wildly unfamiliar with all these movies.
Speaker:I have no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker:I can't even recommend something in the genre.
Speaker:And then somewhere along, we were watching my partner and I
Speaker:were watching the great outdoors.
Speaker:No matter what.
Speaker:Oh, I've seen this movie.
Speaker:Oh, okay.
Speaker:I know this movie.
Speaker:And it was just, it's really fun.
Speaker:I mean, I'm a big John Candy fan.
Speaker:It's that sort of sketch situational comedy.
Speaker:They take a bit.
Speaker:They leave a bit.
Speaker:I, I thought it was a funny, that's, that's why I had a
Speaker:feeling you would like it because.
Speaker:We, we praised how One Crazy Summer was such like a situational
Speaker:comedy bits where it was basically chapters of, of this whole thing.
Speaker:The Great Outdoors really follows a very similar formula.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And, and it's probably a little better.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:A little, a little higher budget, a little better, a little some
Speaker:more talent thrown in there.
Speaker:How good is Annette Bening?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Her first movie, her first it was, it was her first film role.
Speaker:She did great.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Let's so I want to rank these three movies, but before we do, let's just,
Speaker:let's I wouldn't ask, you know, this was a genre we kind of mocked that, like,
Speaker:you know, this is, Perhaps a, a genre from the eighties that, you know, we,
Speaker:we could we could bury this in the past.
Speaker:It would be okay with that.
Speaker:But if we could have fit one more film in, you know, any thoughts on what that
Speaker:could be or do you wish it was a longer?
Speaker:Well, I, I'm happy we did three but I think there are plenty of
Speaker:movies that could have made the cut.
Speaker:Had we talked about Weekend at Bernie's?
Speaker:Weekend at Bernie's was, you know, for our listeners out there, that was our
Speaker:original pick for our, our last movie.
Speaker:And I may have been mentioned already, but you know, we had to swap it out for one
Speaker:crazy summer at the last minute because Weekend at Bernie's is not streaming
Speaker:anywhere, nor for, nor for rent anywhere.
Speaker:And I was not about to shell out, I think like 14.
Speaker:99 to buy the movie.
Speaker:As it is, I bought the pack of Ernest movies just so I
Speaker:could buy Ernest goes to camp.
Speaker:You're crazy.
Speaker:I'm dyed in the Walt movie.
Speaker:Weekend comedies could have been good.
Speaker:Yeah, it could have been good, and that's one I know I haven't seen since the 80s.
Speaker:Or 1990, or something like that.
Speaker:Maybe someday we'll actually get to that.
Speaker:We'll see if we ever do our 80s comedy theme again.
Speaker:I think, you brought it up in One Crazy Summer, and I actually think Wet Hot
Speaker:American Summer would have been a fun point on the end of all of this, too.
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:Just to sort of do like the, the retrospective look at it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You know, how these aged would have been kind of fun.
Speaker:What I liked about the three movies that we did choose though, is that
Speaker:we, the three movies that we have all kind of have a heart to them.
Speaker:None of these took like the cynical route.
Speaker:All of these were kind of dumb fun, but they, like I said, they had a good
Speaker:heart to all of them and I think that was, they all compliment each other.
Speaker:Well, these three movies, there wasn't like one standout that was like, We didn't
Speaker:throw in porkies in the middle of this.
Speaker:Well, I was thinking there wasn't anything super raunchy, super, yeah.
Speaker:It'd be so easy.
Speaker:been a lot worse.
Speaker:It could have been.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:There's a lot, there's a lot we could do.
Speaker:But these, these three films really are pretty much wholesome entertainment.
Speaker:Just kind of like about dads for the most part, you know and I'll just,
Speaker:you know, any, anything that you found as a surprise in this whole thing or
Speaker:disappointment, not a disappointment, pleasantly surprised that earnest wasn't
Speaker:like as bad as it could have been.
Speaker:I feel like I've heard of some earnest movies going off the rails
Speaker:with things that have not aged well.
Speaker:And I thought for the most part it was wholesome and fun and fine.
Speaker:And my big surprise was One Crazy Summer, because I had never even heard
Speaker:of that movie and really loved it.
Speaker:Disappointments?
Speaker:Eh, no.
Speaker:It was exactly what I expected.
Speaker:How about you?
Speaker:I said on our last review, I thought One Crazy Summer was better than I
Speaker:ever would have given it credit to be.
Speaker:I really expected it to be something very, very stupid, low brow humor.
Speaker:And yeah, there was some of that in it.
Speaker:But I thought it was really well written and I give it a lot of credit for that.
Speaker:So I was, I was impressed, not a great film, but definitely better than I
Speaker:thought it would ever going to be.
Speaker:But the other movies were exactly as I remember them being the great
Speaker:outdoors is a film that I grew up with.
Speaker:It is something that is part of my DNA.
Speaker:I watched it over and over the two.
Speaker:Elements of it.
Speaker:The, the, there's slapstick humor in it.
Speaker:I love that era of John Candy and Dan, Dan Aykroyd.
Speaker:And I don't know if you listened to our episode that me and Sam did on that, but
Speaker:there was, there's, there's a, there's a, there's a teenage romance that's in
Speaker:that film that I looked back at it now.
Speaker:And I, we were joking that like, I have a cold heart now.
Speaker:And I just wanted to fast forward through that part of it.
Speaker:I found it to be very cheesy, listen, but in the.
Speaker:In the eighties, when I was like 14, watching that, I love that part
Speaker:because it was the, it was the ideal romance that somebody my age wanted
Speaker:to have when I went away on vacation.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:You know, for those things like, Oh, that's kind of what you're
Speaker:gunning for at camp or something.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I loved, I love that.
Speaker:So I thought it was really sweet when he gets hung up at dinner and can't go
Speaker:meet her, but can't call her anything.
Speaker:It was just, you know, it's such a product of its time that there's no
Speaker:way to let her know that she's been totally stranded and he tries to make it.
Speaker:And you just, you feel that it's so, so real.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So I'm really glad we got to do this eighties.
Speaker:Summer comedy's perfect time of the year to do this.
Speaker:We're not going to do this in February or December or anything,
Speaker:so No, no Christmas in July.
Speaker:Not here.
Speaker:Not here.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:If you had to rank these three movies, Bea, what, how would you do it?
Speaker:Great Outdoors, One Crazy Summer, Earnest.
Speaker:I would have exactly the same ranking.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Significantly less Nantucket in John Candy's movie, but maybe
Speaker:that's why I rigged it higher.
Speaker:So I want to move on to another topic here.
Speaker:I look back at the summer in movies in general.
Speaker:I don't know if you.
Speaker:We haven't really caught up much on what we've seen this summer.
Speaker:I may have seen more than you have, or you see more than I have.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:But I did actually get a decent amount of time at the theater, but it's
Speaker:really interesting because I think the box office did a good amount of
Speaker:rebounding after a very horrible spring.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Q1, man.
Speaker:Never good.
Speaker:Quarter one, not good.
Speaker:Some of the bombs I was looking at, like Madame Webb if, if underperformed
Speaker:the fall guy, Argyle, sadly, Furiosa really underperformed the first Omen,
Speaker:Lisa Frankenstein, Ghostbusters, Frozen Empire really were movies that did not
Speaker:do as well as studios thought they would.
Speaker:But the summer mid June through July twisters, we had twisters, we had Deadpool
Speaker:Wolverine inside out to despicable despicable me for bad boys ride or die.
Speaker:And lately it ends with us, which I have not seen, but like my
Speaker:wife saw that and she loved it.
Speaker:And, but what I'm saying is these movies really, really turned the
Speaker:box office around the summer.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And any thoughts on.
Speaker:On that, because usually the box office is strong in May and June, but not this year.
Speaker:No, not this year.
Speaker:I think there's, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker:Everyone has their own opinions on what's going on.
Speaker:I don't think streaming's to blame.
Speaker:I do think people are, I think on some level folks are exhausted by IP.
Speaker:I think, but then you see things like Deadpool and Wolverine doing really well.
Speaker:So I don't know.
Speaker:What I do know is this is the year for horror movies though.
Speaker:There are so many and there are so many good and creative ones and they're doing
Speaker:really well and I am happy to see that.
Speaker:So it does, saying goodbye to summer is hard, but it does
Speaker:make me look forward to fall.
Speaker:Cause I think, especially looking forward to like Nosferatu, that's coming.
Speaker:There's some fun stuff down the pipe.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:What are you thinking?
Speaker:Well, I'm looking at this and I still see that a lot of these are sequels
Speaker:that are performing well this summer and, you know, and I think we're
Speaker:just gonna get more and more of that.
Speaker:There's no reason that that's going to change.
Speaker:I know, but it's not even like, universally sequels are doing well or
Speaker:doing poorly, you know, cause we're seeing it kind of all over the map.
Speaker:I wonder if it's how fast people are getting sequels.
Speaker:Like if there's time in between, if they're doing any better, I don't know.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:I mean, my theory has always been the streaming window is way too short as well.
Speaker:I mean, if you know, if people are expecting that a title is
Speaker:going to be available on VOD.
Speaker:Three weeks later, what is the incentive?
Speaker:And a lot of people do not really care so much about seeing it on the big
Speaker:screen would big sound a lot of times.
Speaker:It's like, it's a hassle going to the theater.
Speaker:You know, the, the, the, the, the experience isn't optimal.
Speaker:You're dealing with annoying people.
Speaker:The floors are sticky.
Speaker:It's super expensive now expensive and it's paying you.
Speaker:And you're paying for parking in some occasions.
Speaker:What is the incentive when you can go to your family room and rent it
Speaker:for 1499 and everybody can enjoy it there in the comfort of your own home.
Speaker:I get it.
Speaker:I totally get it.
Speaker:And knowing that you only have to wait three weeks now for a lot of these
Speaker:movies, it's not going to turn around.
Speaker:And I don't know if it means.
Speaker:renegotiating with streamers when these can come to these platforms.
Speaker:But I don't know what the incentive is for people that are on the fence about
Speaker:going to the theater to see these.
Speaker:It's gotten more expensive and the product has gotten worse.
Speaker:So like I'm a member to AMC and so I get the whole like three free
Speaker:movies a week thing and it's a steal.
Speaker:It's absolutely like free money go to the movies, how many,
Speaker:how often you're able to go.
Speaker:But the theater is gross.
Speaker:I go to like two or three local AMCs and the seats that are supposed
Speaker:to recline are often busted.
Speaker:They're not clean.
Speaker:The cupholders are filthy.
Speaker:The floors are sticky.
Speaker:The popcorn stuff, the butter and whatever doesn't work.
Speaker:Like it's just not a.
Speaker:Good experience either.
Speaker:So yeah, it's just, it's kind of a bummer that theaters that are
Speaker:accessible to most people aren't doing more to, to get folks in the door.
Speaker:Totally agree.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I don't know real what the solution is, but I know it's not 40 X.
Speaker:I know that's not the solution.
Speaker:I don't think that's it.
Speaker:We'll see what happens.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So what did you see this summer that you loved?
Speaker:Yeah, I have actually a lot of thoughts a lot to share.
Speaker:I'm going to try to go through a few of them and it's been months.
Speaker:I feel like since we've really caught up in some of these, I think you have
Speaker:already shared some opinions on, but I, I have a few things and we can
Speaker:kind of go back and forth, but yeah.
Speaker:I did catch, I never really talked about my thoughts on bike ride on the bike
Speaker:riders, which is one of the fascinating.
Speaker:I'm a big fan of Jeff Nichols.
Speaker:I can't think of a movie that he's done that I have not liked.
Speaker:It might be my favorite director right now, but I was very under
Speaker:underwhelmed by this movie.
Speaker:It took, definitely took the blueprint from Goodfellas, but not quite as good.
Speaker:I love the overall.
Speaker:Vibe and this aesthetic of this film, but the story just was not strong enough.
Speaker:And I wasn't on board at all with the Jody Cormor, Cormor, Cormor character.
Speaker:She's kind of chaperoning us through the story, narrating it.
Speaker:And.
Speaker:I found her voiceover innovation grating, and especially since she,
Speaker:I felt like she had very little to do with the main plot of this movie,
Speaker:so I was kind of aggravated with it.
Speaker:And this film could have been amazing.
Speaker:This film really could have been amazing, and there is, I feel like,
Speaker:a better version of this to be told, and I, I love biker movies, and I
Speaker:was just, I was very disappointed.
Speaker:Right now it's one of my, it's one of my bigger disappointments of the year.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Because I wanted to love this.
Speaker:I walked away like, Oh, it's because it could have been so good.
Speaker:And it just like, it didn't hit the mark.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So yeah.
Speaker:I think it, it's sort of halfway through, didn't know what story
Speaker:it wanted to tell anymore.
Speaker:I didn't know if it wanted to tell this, like, anthology story about the
Speaker:history of the Spiker group and where it was going and the changing times?
Speaker:Or was it like a, an isolated story about this?
Speaker:It just didn't do a very good job of contextualizing those.
Speaker:And I love a road movie.
Speaker:I love a dude's rock movie, but if you're going to do it and you're going to have
Speaker:the A propulsion of the movie be like one of your only female characters.
Speaker:She's got to be good.
Speaker:And she wasn't.
Speaker:No, I did not like what they did with her.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:Do you want to mention anything or do you want me to?
Speaker:Yeah, sure.
Speaker:I can go.
Speaker:Let's see.
Speaker:Oh, I did see alien Romulus, which you were talking about last week.
Speaker:I really liked it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, I was like, heck yeah, movies are bad.
Speaker:It was so great.
Speaker:It's exactly what you were saying.
Speaker:It's, it's more harder than sci fi.
Speaker:But there were some scenes in there that I was just on the edge of my seat.
Speaker:They were so interesting and beautiful.
Speaker:So kind of spoilers, spoilers for folks.
Speaker:Spoilers on Alien Romulus.
Speaker:Fast forward if you don't want to hear it.
Speaker:But the, the, Acid blood splatter scene where their foot.
Speaker:Oh my God.
Speaker:What was that?
Speaker:That was sick.
Speaker:And the elevator scene, I was like, Oh my God, I felt so much tension.
Speaker:I want to mention, you know, I listened to another podcast review on it and
Speaker:they mentioned something that really summed up the aesthetic of this movie.
Speaker:It is, It is like a video game brought to life because it really
Speaker:is that kind of aesthetic, which is really hits the nail on the head.
Speaker:It is a beautiful video game movie.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:The lighting is you enter a room and it shuts off.
Speaker:You can't go backwards.
Speaker:You have to go forward to the room.
Speaker:And it's, it's really good.
Speaker:The longer I think about the movie, it's growing on me more and more.
Speaker:Cause I was kind of mixed positive on it.
Speaker:But the more I think about it, It's really like, it really is
Speaker:doing some new things that I like.
Speaker:It was incredible.
Speaker:The worst part of it was Ian Holm.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Again, spoilers like Ian Holm.
Speaker:You know, he passed, I think in 2020 or 2021 or something like that.
Speaker:And family, apparently the state of Ian Holm gave their blessing to
Speaker:use his likeness for this movie.
Speaker:And I mean, what I can say is that, I mean, it's not just a small cameo.
Speaker:He plays a prominent role, his likeness in this movie.
Speaker:And there's a character called Rook, who is another synthetic human.
Speaker:Who does incredible.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I mean, I think it's, I think it's relatively well done how they do it, but
Speaker:I also question like, did this need to be?
Speaker:So this is my thing.
Speaker:I, I actually don't think it was that well done.
Speaker:I think it was some of the The lesser computer effects, but I also I thought
Speaker:it was kind of lazy writing like this.
Speaker:I don't think we needed him at least, especially for as long as we had him.
Speaker:Well, here's the thing.
Speaker:Like if you're good, they, they they're using Ian Holm and it felt it was the
Speaker:head, the whole uncanny valley thing.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:I thought I didn't think it was that Poorly done, you know, better
Speaker:than what they did with what, what's from, from Star Wars.
Speaker:Star Wars Leia or the other one?
Speaker:No, not Christopher grandma to Grand.
Speaker:Chris.
Speaker:Chris.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I, well, I I am really like screwing over my Star Wars knowledge.
Speaker:Right on.
Speaker:Can't even help you on the show.
Speaker:can't even help you.
Speaker:I'm.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I've seen all the Star Wars.
Speaker:This is just how much they mean to me.
Speaker:You know?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Cushing's character.
Speaker:Of course.
Speaker:I'm like, absolutely.
Speaker:Tarkin.
Speaker:Grand Moff Tarkin.
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:They, they redo his character for, for Rogue, Rogue One, right?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That's what I'm thinking of.
Speaker:Oh my God.
Speaker:I'm blanking completely tonight.
Speaker:Which I liked Rogue One.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I love, I love Rogue One.
Speaker:But with Ian Holm, there, there, there's kind of this uncanny valley.
Speaker:I, I didn't think it was.
Speaker:Bad though, what they did, but what is weird is they went to this, they
Speaker:went to, they went to this Ian Holm character and they didn't have to go
Speaker:to Ian Holm for a synthetic human.
Speaker:They have a living person, a play to android who was a fantastic actor who's
Speaker:still alive, Lance Hendrickson, that they could have also used for this.
Speaker:Now they wanted to do it because they wanted to have A callback
Speaker:to the original Alien, but why couldn't it be Lance Hendrickson?
Speaker:Yeah, there were plenty of other callbacks.
Speaker:I, it was, I guess it really took me out.
Speaker:Like I noticed it and there were some times when the head would turn and stuff
Speaker:and it, it really just was jarring for me.
Speaker:And I also just, I don't, I think there's other, you know, Right.
Speaker:Better, you know, like figure it out.
Speaker:That's your job.
Speaker:I, I just am inherently against it, but I mean, I thought, I
Speaker:thought it was an excellent movie.
Speaker:More alien movies like that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I just hope maybe someday we get that third Ridley Scott movie to follow up on.
Speaker:Ah, the dream.
Speaker:It's actually gladiator two.
Speaker:It takes place in space.
Speaker:There's water in the Coliseum.
Speaker:So I'll mention something else that I saw.
Speaker:I saw Kinds of Kindness.
Speaker:Have you seen this?
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:Kinds of Ki no.
Speaker:Did you like it?
Speaker:Well, I was very confused.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:But it also came out really quickly after last year's Incredible Poor Things.
Speaker:And I still I wanted to see it.
Speaker:I still don't have much of a take on this movie.
Speaker:It's attempting to wrestle with themes of you know, faith and control, exploiting
Speaker:exploitation is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker:I'm so tired of the bad guy being trauma.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:However, upon, you know, after, after viewing this, I found it to be just
Speaker:really incoherent and mostly unenjoyable is the, really incoherent, mostly
Speaker:unenjoyable that's on the trailer.
Speaker:You can quote me.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Two stars.
Speaker:I would like to know what listeners thought of this.
Speaker:And, but this is someone who's coming from, I mean, I've loved
Speaker:almost every one of your goals.
Speaker:You and I are sick.
Speaker:Oh, your goals, completionists.
Speaker:I mean, we've done dog tooth and all of it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So this, this is, and it's just, but it's also weird that this came up
Speaker:so quickly after poor things too.
Speaker:Like it made me a little suspicious when it came up that fast also, but yeah, the
Speaker:marketing for it was a little bizarre.
Speaker:So I was in, it was a little cautious and it's like, do you have another one?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Another Yorgos or just another film that you want to mention?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So talking horror I went to go see Cuckoo last week.
Speaker:Have you seen anything about Cuckoo?
Speaker:Have you seen it?
Speaker:I want to see it, but I've been avoiding all marketing and trailers
Speaker:for it because I do want to see it.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:I am not going to tell you anything.
Speaker:What I will say is It was very well done.
Speaker:It was good.
Speaker:It could have been great.
Speaker:I think it, for such a wild premise, and it's wild, I almost don't think it
Speaker:pushed it far enough in some aspects.
Speaker:And I think the writing is a little plot holy weak.
Speaker:Don't go into it with an analytical mind.
Speaker:Just let it wash over you like a dream.
Speaker:And in that way, it's good.
Speaker:The lead performance is so good.
Speaker:So good.
Speaker:It's got great effects, some genuinely tense moments, a little more jump scary
Speaker:than I thought it was going to be.
Speaker:But yeah, like I said, just digging in for her.
Speaker:I saw long legs too.
Speaker:And that was another, yeah.
Speaker:Creepy, creep, creep show.
Speaker:Which was very good.
Speaker:I thought.
Speaker:Good.
Speaker:Something else that I saw along with.
Speaker:I think a couple other billion people was Deadpool and Wolverine.
Speaker:I still haven't seen it.
Speaker:I'm one of the billion who has.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Well, this is one of my most anticipated movies of the year.
Speaker:It did not disappoint.
Speaker:Probably the funniest film in the franchise.
Speaker:I of all X Men movies, of all Marvel films.
Speaker:I mean, it's it's really it's really funny.
Speaker:Hugh Jackman, Ryan Reynolds are perfect in their roles.
Speaker:The characters are almost like a comedy duo.
Speaker:Very similar to like the great acts of like Laurel and Hardy and Adam
Speaker:Costello where one's a straight man.
Speaker:One's a funny man.
Speaker:Yes It's really comedy gold Awesome.
Speaker:I mean, I won't spoil anything about this, but there's some incredible cameos
Speaker:in this is the genius cameos in this great surprises I don't know but what I
Speaker:like about this it's designed so that it rewards Everyone that has been on board
Speaker:with the Marvel films over the last 25, 26 years or so, going back to the 90s.
Speaker:It's, it's really, it's really fascinating how they weave it all together.
Speaker:My only gripe though with the film, without spoiling anything, is that the
Speaker:plot is a complete, like, non entity.
Speaker:And I'm definitely really wondering, Does the MCU actually mean anything?
Speaker:You know, it's really great questions.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Once you see it, you'll understand.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker:I've got two or three other things I'll highlight, but do you have another one?
Speaker:Yeah, actually, I think there's one that I saw on your list and I
Speaker:went, Oh yeah, I did watch that.
Speaker:The new Beverly Hills cop.
Speaker:Oh, yep.
Speaker:I wasn't as well.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So I didn't grow up with Beverly Hills Cop, there's something that I've just
Speaker:kind of seen in passing and I have a feeling you did either grow up with it
Speaker:or watch them and sort of, so I feel like the original film in the theater
Speaker:when I was like, I bet we have a different relationship to these movies.
Speaker:So when I watched the new one, I was more like, oh, I can see what they're doing.
Speaker:I get that it's fun, but it was pretty like.
Speaker:It's like it's okay to me.
Speaker:It felt like watching some of our 80 summer comedies where I was like,
Speaker:Hey, I can just turn my brain off.
Speaker:And it's a big kind of funny, violent movie.
Speaker:I glad to see Eddie Murphy doing anything.
Speaker:You know this movie was a surprise for me.
Speaker:I, I went expecting the worst.
Speaker:It's pretty good.
Speaker:Especially after the direct to VOD Eddie Murphy legacy sequel coming to America,
Speaker:which I thought Oh, that was, yeah.
Speaker:We don't have to talk about that.
Speaker:It was barely a movie.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:This Yeah.
Speaker:Fourth installment.
Speaker:Isn't as good as the first film, nor the second, which I personally regard as a
Speaker:very good film, but it does encapsulate what I thought was that has that, that
Speaker:late eighties, early nineties, Tony Scott, you know, actual aesthetic.
Speaker:But unlike Beverly Hills cop three, Eddie Murphy does seem like he
Speaker:wants to be making it up to work.
Speaker:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker:And he is reaching back into that old bag of tricks and I, it was nice to see him.
Speaker:He has some of that sharp wit about him, you know, for back in the day.
Speaker:I had a fun time with this movie.
Speaker:I, I thought it was going to be trash, but it ended up being not bad.
Speaker:And I don't know if that's crazy that that's great.
Speaker:That is praise.
Speaker:Like it's perfectly situated on a VOD streaming service.
Speaker:I don't think this would have done well in the theater still.
Speaker:I think it's fine that it went to.
Speaker:Netflix.
Speaker:Or is that where it went to Netflix?
Speaker:That's where it earned itself to be.
Speaker:But yeah, this was fun.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:No complaints at all.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It does exactly what it says it's going to do on the tin.
Speaker:Like, look, I do.
Speaker:I think it's reviving the series in any kind of big way or even
Speaker:anyone's career in a big way.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:And I don't think anyone expected it to, but it's nice.
Speaker:People got to make some money.
Speaker:We had some good, easy laughs.
Speaker:You do not have to think too hard.
Speaker:It's fine.
Speaker:It's fine.
Speaker:Good Wednesday night movie.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:I have, I think one more I want to mention.
Speaker:Skywalkers, A Love Story.
Speaker:Have you seen this documentary on Netflix or heard of it?
Speaker:It's a documentary.
Speaker:I thought you were going to tell me it's like a Star Wars spinoff on Disney.
Speaker:No, you'd think it is.
Speaker:This is a new documentary that was recently released on Netflix.
Speaker:It's about two peoples whose passion brought them together through their
Speaker:love of climbing ridiculously high structures with no safety harnesses.
Speaker:Oh, my God.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So, I'll quickly mention.
Speaker:So, we're both watching horror movies.
Speaker:What I love, I'll mention what I love and hate about this film.
Speaker:What I love.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:The way this is shot is incredible.
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:They are wearing GoPros as they ascend these structures.
Speaker:So, when you have, you have this fisheye view of everything.
Speaker:That they are seeing on top of like tall buildings and skyscrapers and it gives you
Speaker:that, that sense of vertigo, especially if you're watching this on the big TV.
Speaker:I watched it on a tablet, which is not the way to watch this.
Speaker:I did it while I was on vacation, but still, on my 13 inch tablet, I
Speaker:was getting queasy watching this.
Speaker:Oh wow.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Haha.
Speaker:But I can't imagine I can't imagine what it would be like on
Speaker:a large TV, but I would recommend that's the way to watch this.
Speaker:But what I didn't enjoy, it was the supposed love story.
Speaker:Supposed?
Speaker:Yeah, you can make fun of me all you want that I'm this old
Speaker:curmudgeon and I get that one.
Speaker:I get teased about that, but this, the entire plot of this documentary
Speaker:is where they meet these, this, this guy and this girl, they meet
Speaker:through like social media or YouTube.
Speaker:They both have YouTube pages and they find each other because
Speaker:they both had the same hobby.
Speaker:And they fall in love.
Speaker:I'm not really spoiling much about this.
Speaker:That's the whole premise of the movie.
Speaker:How many people have this hobby?
Speaker:Like, of course they do.
Speaker:But it goes farther than that.
Speaker:And it forces what feels like a very superficial marital
Speaker:drama onto this whole movie.
Speaker:And it plays this up in a very big way.
Speaker:In the movie, and it would have been perfectly fine as a, as a documentary
Speaker:about the, just their footage of them ascending these buildings.
Speaker:But it feels like this marital drama is really shoehorned into this.
Speaker:And I want to point listeners to one of my favorite films from 2018.
Speaker:It's called Free Solo, which I think is head and shoulders, a better movie than
Speaker:this, but it's kind of similar in theme.
Speaker:And it's about a free solo rock climber, Alex.
Speaker:Yeah, and he's sending El Capitan, the tension in that
Speaker:movie that guy's fucking nuts.
Speaker:Yeah, he is.
Speaker:But it's, it's the same type of feeling that I got watching this.
Speaker:No, I just didn't know that you watch it.
Speaker:We got to talk about that movie.
Speaker:It's a great, great film, great film.
Speaker:But if you're looking for that kind of like stress inducing feeling, watching
Speaker:a movie, Yes, I, I'd say Skywalker is a love story is the next place you
Speaker:could go for that feeling, but you're going to have to endure some like TLC
Speaker:style merit drama with that about this.
Speaker:Oh my God.
Speaker:So yeah.
Speaker:Can I, can I piggyback off this actually?
Speaker:Cause I have two recommendations that are, if you, if you're looking
Speaker:for this similar to you, free solo is a great recommendation.
Speaker:But if you've already watched it a hundred times, and if it were a VCR
Speaker:and you'd run it out, like I have a newer movie came out on Netflix.
Speaker:I don't know if you've seen this Mountain Queen this it's of Lakpa Sherpa.
Speaker:She is the story of the woman who summited Everest more times than any other woman.
Speaker:She summited it 10 times.
Speaker:And it does detail her, like, very traumatic backstory and how
Speaker:she's summited despite it all.
Speaker:It's incredible.
Speaker:It's wonderfully done.
Speaker:And yeah, it's just, it's really powerful.
Speaker:So I would say that's a good one to check out.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Good, good.
Speaker:More drama on the high.
Speaker:Elevation.
Speaker:High Elevation.
Speaker:High Trauma.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Have you seen anything else?
Speaker:Those are the, you know, I'm thinking about things that I saw, well, yes,
Speaker:I didn't make notes on it, but last night I did check out the new John
Speaker:Woo film, his retelling of The Killer.
Speaker:Wait, what?
Speaker:It just came out.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Beep.
Speaker:I gotta see the new John Woo movie on Peacock.
Speaker:He redid the killer.
Speaker:Oh, I gotta see that.
Speaker:Is it good?
Speaker:Can't be worse than Silent Night.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:I, you know what?
Speaker:I want to be a John Woo completist.
Speaker:That's a really hard thing to do, but I will get there someday.
Speaker:We need to do like a John Woo retrospective sometime on the show.
Speaker:But I did not see Silent Night.
Speaker:I heard really, really mixed to negative things.
Speaker:Truly terrible.
Speaker:I don't, I don't, I don't know, cause I have not seen a lot of John Woo films
Speaker:in recent years, but I did like this.
Speaker:It definitely is doing something different than the original, the killer, the
Speaker:original film with Chow, Chow Yun Fat.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And it stars Zoe Kravitz and, and I forget the other male lead in this.
Speaker:It is, it has a different take, which I am kind of thankful for.
Speaker:It is definitely not like a shot for shot remake.
Speaker:It is doing some different things.
Speaker:It has a bit, the basic premise is still there, but it feels like it's
Speaker:a little less gun foo and gunplay and a little bit more story in this.
Speaker:It I think it's pretty good.
Speaker:I think it's pretty good.
Speaker:But I have not been much.
Speaker:I haven't, I have not really been much up on his career of late.
Speaker:Obviously, neither have I.
Speaker:I didn't even know this happened.
Speaker:I, I, the funny thing is I knew this movie was coming and when David Fincher
Speaker:came out with the killer last year.
Speaker:I saw that the killer was coming out in November, like, Oh, that
Speaker:must be the John Woo movie.
Speaker:Like, no, this is David Fincher's the killer.
Speaker:And I was, I got really confused with all these movies.
Speaker:I would love to do a double feature though with the original killer,
Speaker:because that's a great movie.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And then this new John Woo, I would be down.
Speaker:Good stuff.
Speaker:I think you like it 'cause it is definitely I think a,
Speaker:a, a fresh new take on it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I'm looking up right now.
Speaker:Na.
Speaker:Emmanuel Omar.
Speaker:Si Cool.
Speaker:Oh, Sam Worthington.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Sam.
Speaker:Oh, Sam Worthington.
Speaker:Where have you been?
Speaker:Sam Worthington . He is, he's good in it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And like it was so, I was so happy to see Sam Worthington doing something
Speaker:that I, this is the Sam, like it's.
Speaker:I say it's the best thing Sam Worthington's done in
Speaker:14 years is not a joke.
Speaker:It is.
Speaker:He's actually, he's actually, looks like he's having a good time in this movie.
Speaker:And it was, it was fun seeing him in, in this.
Speaker:We should do directors that take their old stuff and.
Speaker:redo it, but kind of different.
Speaker:Like Cronenberg's done that with what was the one Cronenberg did recently?
Speaker:Oh yeah, I know exactly.
Speaker:Now I'm the one who can't remember anything.
Speaker:I swear we're professionals over here.
Speaker:Is it crimes of the future?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Crimes of the future.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:We could do that.
Speaker:That would be a fun.
Speaker:Which I never saw his original.
Speaker:Well, I like the new one too.
Speaker:I liked it too.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That was the summer.
Speaker:Oh, I will make a plug just real quick for the Decameron.
Speaker:It's a mini series on Netflix and it's so funny.
Speaker:Everyone should be watching it.
Speaker:Decameron.
Speaker:Where can people see it?
Speaker:Netflix.
Speaker:Netflix.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Probably just see that.
Speaker:Dark medieval humor.
Speaker:It's okay.
Speaker:Anything?
Speaker:I'm not, I'm slowly.
Speaker:Almost caught up on House of the Dragon.
Speaker:I was, I was like three weeks, I was on vacation.
Speaker:So I was way behind.
Speaker:I'm catching up on that.
Speaker:I'm catching up on season five of Better Call Saul.
Speaker:Cause I'm way behind on that.
Speaker:Yeah, you are.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I'm doing a Veep rewatch.
Speaker:That's been fun.
Speaker:I finished the first, the first five episodes of Cobra Kai that they released.
Speaker:I watched that.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:It's Crash TV, but like, I gotta see it because you know, they're the
Speaker:Karate Kid movie is coming out as well.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:They have a feature film based on these characters.
Speaker:So I, I gotta be there for that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:We should all go see that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That's what we've been watching.
Speaker:So that's the summer.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That is a summer.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Busters, baby.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So I think that wraps it up for our August, August wrap
Speaker:up summer retrospective.
Speaker:That was rolls off the tongue.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:We're pros people really.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So all right.
Speaker:Well, everyone have a good week and we'll catch you on the next episode.
Speaker:Bye bye.
