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10th Jun 2024

The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert (1994): Is the Outback Ready for High Heels and Sequins?

Join hosts Nathan, Sam, and Bee as they don their most fabulous sequins and embark on a wild, heartwarming ride through the Outback with our special guest, Rob Kersey! In this Pride Month special, we're diving into the iconic film "The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert". Get ready for a whirlwind of laughter, deep dives into drag culture, and heartfelt discussions about the film's impact on the LGBTQ+ community. From the unforgettable performances to the spectacular costumes, we’re celebrating every vibrant, fearless moment.

Find Rob Kersey on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/hybrid_spyder

06:59 Introducing our Guest: Rob Kersey, their journey in the film industry

12:52 The 4 Questions

22:00 Movie Facts

34:49 Bee's Review

36:47 Nathan's Review

41:16 Sam's Review

48:38 Rob's Review

01:15:47 SAVE OR PURGE!!

01:20:09 Movie Pairings

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For friends and family yearning for salvation, but sacrifices must be made.

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art of storytelling endures, transcending the boundaries of time and space.

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Because it's the only bang you're ever gonna get, sweetheart.

Nathan:

Welcome to Back to the Framerate, part of the Weston Media Podcast Network.

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Join us as we watch and discuss films on VOD and streaming platforms, deliberating

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on Each one is worthy of salvation or destined for destruction in the face

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of the impending asteroid apocalypse.

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socials at back to the framerate.

Nathan:

I am Nathan Shure and accompanying me

Nathan:

I'm also very happy to share that we have a special guest with us joining

Nathan:

us this week is Twitch streamer.

Nathan:

Is that correct?

Rob:

Yes.

Nathan:

Twitch streamer, actor, and aspiring voice actor, Rob Kersey.

Nathan:

Welcome to our humble podcast, Rob.

Bee:

Hi Rob.

Bee:

Thank

Nathan:

you for having me.

Bee:

Happy to have

Nathan:

you.

Nathan:

I have a question for my podcast co host.

Nathan:

I'm going to keep this simple because my spidey senses have been telling me that my

Nathan:

questions have gone off the rails of late.

Bee:

You mean the one where you tried to figure out if we were replicants?

Nathan:

Yes.

Bee:

All right.

Bee:

So you need to get

Nathan:

from,

Rob:

you need to get.

Rob:

I don't see a light in their eyes.

Rob:

Immediate dead giveaway that they're not

Nathan:

exactly.

Nathan:

You need to get from Boston to Philadelphia in five hours.

Nathan:

Who do you want driving your budget Barbie camper between the following people?

Nathan:

Annie Porter, Sandra Bullock's character from the movie Speed, Otto Mann from

Nathan:

The Simpsons, Lorenzo Anello, Robert De Niro's character from A Bronx Tale,

Nathan:

or Ralph Cramden, Jackie Gleason's character from The Honeymooners.

Nathan:

Mind you, the entire time there is a gigantic battle waging in the back of the

Nathan:

bus between General Zod and Agent Smith.

Nathan:

That is very distracting.

Nathan:

Which driver has the This is such an easy one.

Nathan:

To keep everyone's, keep the bus on the road and egos in check.

Bee:

Sandra Bullock.

Bee:

First of all, she's already done this.

Bee:

Okay.

Bee:

She's a pro.

Bee:

Second of all, Babraham Lincoln.

Bee:

I want to ride on a bus with her.

Bee:

Throw me a softball, Nathan.

Bee:

I know.

Bee:

I want to make

Nathan:

it easy, I guess.

Sam:

Wait.

Sam:

And so I, so this is, I, I apologize for getting confused like 12, 000 times.

Sam:

I cannot pick the same thing, right?

Sam:

Or can I?

Sam:

You can!

Sam:

I can.

Sam:

I'm serious.

Sam:

It has to be Sandra Bullock.

Sam:

I mean, like, she did well under pressure.

Sam:

She like, helped the bus, like, jump across a 50 foot gap.

Sam:

She succeeded.

Sam:

She survived, like, a subway, like, terror, like, she's, she's She's a

Bee:

seasoned veteran of bus driving under pressure.

Bee:

She's a

Sam:

seasoned veteran.

Sam:

Yeah.

Bee:

That's how I feel.

Bee:

Rob, do you have a feeling about this?

Rob:

Oh, I'm, I'm on board with you guys.

Rob:

Absolutely.

Rob:

100%.

Bee:

Right on.

Rob:

I didn't even pay attention.

Rob:

Like, after, after Sandra Bullock was mentioned, that was it.

Rob:

Like, I didn't need to hear any of the other options.

Rob:

Where did the

Sam:

honeymooners come from?

Sam:

Like that's that, like you pulled Jackie Gleason out of the netherworld.

Sam:

Like bus drivers.

Nathan:

They're all bus drivers.

Nathan:

That's true.

Sam:

That's true.

Sam:

Oh, that's, I get it now.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

That was well thought out.

Nathan:

I thought it would be a lot easier to find famous

Nathan:

bus drivers from the movies.

Nathan:

And it's.

Nathan:

It's.

Nathan:

It's not,

Sam:

which didn't one of the Muppets drive the bus and the Muppet movie, like animal.

Sam:

No, he didn't drive.

Sam:

I can't remember.

Bee:

Same way of like, that was like, wasn't there a bus driver in Pee wee's?

Sam:

Yeah, you would think so, but like, it's not coming to mind.

Sam:

Maybe not

Nathan:

that many featured characters.

Nathan:

No.

Sam:

There's

Nathan:

the bus driver from the Harry Potter, like one of Harry Potter movies.

Nathan:

And God, Prisoner of

Sam:

Azkaban.

Sam:

That was awesome.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

This

Bee:

could be the stories we need to get people back to the box office.

Bee:

You know, this could be how we close the gap.

Sam:

That will be Box Office Gold, a Harry Potter spinoff about the bus driver.

Sam:

Like, you know, that's, there's a, there's a 200 million smash.

Sam:

We don't need to keep funneling money to that

Bee:

particular franchise.

Bee:

I

Nathan:

hope Hollywood is listening.

Nathan:

But if you hadn't already guessed the you probably did not

Nathan:

guess from that introduction.

Rob:

We watched.

Rob:

Oh, I don't understand where the segue is for this.

Rob:

Okay.

Bee:

Sorry.

Bee:

No, it's not a segue.

Bee:

It's a bus.

Nathan:

Oh, you win this week.

Nathan:

We watched The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert from 1994.

Nathan:

Directed by Stephen or Stefan Elliott.

Nathan:

I'm not sure which, but anyways.

Sam:

Stefan, I think.

Sam:

Yeah.

Nathan:

So I'm excited to talk about this movie with each of you.

Nathan:

Rob, welcome to our show.

Nathan:

Please tell us a little bit about what you do.

Nathan:

You're an actor, a voice actor.

Nathan:

I'm an actor.

Nathan:

Enlighten us, please.

Nathan:

I mean, you just said it.

Nathan:

I did, but we're, tell us a little bit.

Nathan:

We know,

Rob:

But yeah my name is Robert Kersey.

Rob:

I I'm, I've been in the film industry now for about 20 years.

Rob:

I've worked on over 40 productions.

Rob:

I'm just starting to get into voice acting a little bit.

Rob:

I'm also a streamer on Twitch.

Rob:

I can be found there.

Rob:

I'm hybrid underscore spider on Twitch.

Rob:

And all, actually all across my social media, I'm hybrid underscore spider.

Rob:

You know, got to get that branding.

Rob:

That's impressive

Bee:

that you were able to get the same handle.

Rob:

It, it was, yeah, it was tough, but I got it.

Rob:

I got it all.

Rob:

So

Nathan:

So on Twitch, cause I'm, I'm a little inexperienced with Twitch.

Nathan:

It's not a platform that.

Nathan:

Our show.

Nathan:

I mean, use this, I don't know if, if a podcast would be a platform for it,

Nathan:

but what are you streaming on Twitch?

Rob:

Well, I'm a, I'm a variety streamer.

Rob:

I play all sorts of different games.

Rob:

I'm actually a v YouTuber on there, which just means I have a digital representation

Rob:

of myself as opposed to all of this.

Nathan:

That's cool.

Nathan:

So what does that mean, like, like an avatar?

Rob:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rob:

I've got like an avatar that I made.

Rob:

Using various programs to design it and whatnot.

Rob:

Got to tell you, that was a lot of learning over a weekend.

Rob:

Um,

Rob:

Oh, I was awake for like 36 hours studying all of it just to do what I did.

Rob:

Started doing.

Bee:

That's amazing.

Rob:

But thank you.

Rob:

I kind of feel

Nathan:

like the three of us should have an avatar, you know.

Bee:

That might be preferable.

Bee:

I see the appeal.

Bee:

Are you wanting

Rob:

to be a Navi?

Rob:

Is that what you're saying more, Nathan?

Rob:

Kind of.

Rob:

Kind of.

Rob:

Yeah.

Rob:

Were you making an avatar joke?

Sam:

I would be, if my avatar would be one of those old mystics.

Sam:

I'm, I'm from, I'd be one of the dark crystal the old mystics with the big like

Sam:

noses like Moving along through the woods.

Sam:

Oh my God, I haven't seen that in years.

Sam:

It's a classic.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

I would just migrate

Bee:

my Nintendo.

Bee:

We Avatar

Bee:

. Rob: Yes.

Bee:

But yeah, no on Twitch, I, like I said, I, I just play various games from RPGs

Bee:

to visual novels where I can do a little bit of the voice acting kind of thing.

Bee:

And I also do a lot of charity streams where I try to raise money for

Bee:

various charities throughout the year.

Bee:

Yeah, pretty well sums

Bee:

as a busy person,

Nathan:

I try to be, and I, and I like to mention also that, you know, Rob and

Nathan:

I, we go back about three, four years ago where we both worked on a series

Nathan:

of films during the, the, the lockdown that myself, myself and Lenny Schwartz,

Nathan:

who was a guest on our show last week, actually Furiosa, a Mad Max saga.

Nathan:

He was on an episode He and I co directed and co produced three films

Nathan:

Comic Book Junkies, Far From Perfect, and I wasn't so much involved in the

Nathan:

third movie, which is called Vote Motherfucker, but I did help produce it.

Nathan:

And you were performed in all three of those.

Nathan:

And these were like, I did, we call these, It's our socially distanced pandemic

Nathan:

pandemic movies because it involved like hundreds of actors performing these

Nathan:

monologues and there's like a, a through line through all of these monologues.

Nathan:

Comet McJunkies was always been my favorite of, of these

Nathan:

three movies and a lot of fun.

Nathan:

And I remember you in your, you have your Captain America behind

Nathan:

you and you were great in it.

Nathan:

I remember putting all these together, but you're.

Nathan:

piece, which is only probably like a minute long.

Nathan:

I don't remember exactly.

Nathan:

I don't even

Rob:

think it was that long.

Nathan:

It could have been 30 seconds.

Nathan:

I have no idea, but I'm collecting hundreds of actors, submissions,

Nathan:

keeping all these organized.

Nathan:

And like, is this number 125 or number 38?

Nathan:

And like, And like, it was the most, this is right after the lockdown

Nathan:

and I'm trying to like, I need to immerse myself in some project.

Nathan:

But it was a blast doing these at the time, because I really didn't

Nathan:

have much else going on in my life.

Nathan:

So this was kept me sane during a very rough time.

Nathan:

The thing that I thought

Rob:

was great about doing those was that Because Far From

Rob:

Perfect was the first one, right?

Rob:

And depressing.

Rob:

Oh, yeah.

Rob:

Oh my god, yeah.

Rob:

Two hours.

Rob:

That was a hard one to get through.

Nathan:

Two hours and like 18 minutes of just, I want to slit my wrists.

Rob:

But the thing I thought was great about that is that, that was the

Rob:

first of its kind during that time.

Rob:

Because not too long after was when Hollywood started going, oh, maybe we

Rob:

should do, you know, these kind of.

Rob:

Socially distant films and put them up, but you guys like the far from perfect.

Rob:

That was first, as far as I'm aware, I

Nathan:

mean, done on a, on a no budget, maybe the first we'd spent

Nathan:

nothing on it, but it was, except for maybe the money for a poster.

Nathan:

A couple festival submissions that I didn't even know where it went.

Nathan:

I don't remember, but it was fun.

Nathan:

It was fun.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Those were a lot

Rob:

of fun.

Rob:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Cool.

Nathan:

So you already told us where people can find you, what you do.

Nathan:

So that's great.

Nathan:

I'm really happy to have you on this episode, Rob.

Nathan:

I want to, because I do this for all of our guests.

Nathan:

I ask all of our guests four questions that I think help our

Nathan:

audience identify who you are as a film watcher and a movie lover.

Nathan:

And I think it's great.

Nathan:

So they know, have some context so that when we hear about your

Nathan:

opinions on the movies, they, it just kind of helps a little bit.

Nathan:

So I want to ask you these four questions and I will probably

Nathan:

put this in the beginning.

Nathan:

So Rob, so we're going to have a continuity error because

Nathan:

B just put her hair up.

Nathan:

I, I, I can, I can fix this.

Nathan:

I can fix this.

Rob:

We can fix it all in post.

Nathan:

Rob, what is the first movie you remember seeing in the theater?

Rob:

I, so I don't remember too much of my childhood.

Rob:

So, and, and I'm sure I went to the movies a lot.

Rob:

But one that I can distinctly remember was probably one of the Free Willy movies.

Rob:

I don't remember if it was the first one or the second

Rob:

one, but I'm pretty sure I saw

Sam:

it.

Sam:

Do you remember an oil rig with like a lot of like fire and gasoline on the

Sam:

ocean because that was the second one?

Rob:

I don't remember a thing.

Rob:

That

Sam:

was a visually cool set piece.

Rob:

I just remember that I was there, that it was, it was a date

Rob:

kind of thing when I was younger.

Rob:

It might have been three.

Rob:

I don't know, but I saw free Willie.

Rob:

That's, that's, that's

Sam:

three is pretty good as well.

Sam:

But you

Rob:

remember the wa a whale, I remember there was a whale.

Rob:

Mm.

Bee:

And he was free.

Bee:

And he was free maybe, huh.

Bee:

Okay.

Bee:

Maybe so worth that.

Bee:

I've never seen Free Willie.

Bee:

So that's what I got.

Nathan:

Oh, okay.

Bee:

Yeah.

Nathan:

I've never seen a Free Willy movie in my life.

Nathan:

I've

Sam:

seen all three of them.

Sam:

About that.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

It's

Rob:

almost like you're the same generation as me or something.

Sam:

Yeah, exactly.

Sam:

What, who, who, who would have guessed?

Rob:

Yeah.

Sam:

Same age.

Sam:

I'm 43.

Sam:

So I'm, yeah, yeah.

Nathan:

Rob, what is the last movie you watched outside of this one

Nathan:

that we're talking about tonight?

Rob:

I know this answer.

Bee:

See if you had a letter box, you'd have a lot of answers.

Rob:

It was the 2010 movie.

Rob:

By, I'm not going to say the director just because of but it was the ghost.

Rob:

Oh, do we know him?

Rob:

No.

Rob:

Well, I mean, I mean, we all know the name but it was the ghost writer

Rob:

starring Ewan McGregor Pierce Brosnan.

Rob:

You know

Rob:

who the director is I'm referring to now?

Sam:

I, I love that movie.

Sam:

I, the director I know, yeah, him, yeah.

Sam:

Good, good, good movie though, yeah.

Rob:

Yeah.

Rob:

Like I, I saw it on one of the many streaming services and was

Rob:

like, Oh, this seems interesting.

Rob:

And then the movie started up and the directed by came up and I went, Oh, yeah.

Rob:

Oh,

Nathan:

you know what?

Nathan:

Well, we're not going to, we don't have to get into a big discussion over it.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

I, I, because I, but no, I enjoyed it.

Nathan:

I just, I, I just rewatched Rosemary's baby oh, wow.

Nathan:

Earlier, a few weeks ago, and it was the same director.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

Which might give a away to a lot of people now who, who were talking about.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

And I, I wrestled a lot with, you know, do I, do I mention this on the show?

Nathan:

But you know what, there, there's a lot of people besides the director.

Nathan:

Right.

Nathan:

That work on these movies.

Nathan:

And I think it's, I mean, I'm just going to just say right now, I mean, like, yes,

Nathan:

I understand the difficulty about, you know, watching these and realizing that

Nathan:

some of these people are horrible people, they're predators and all this, but there

Nathan:

are also hundreds of people that work on these movies that are innocent in this.

Nathan:

And if I always kind of.

Nathan:

I look at this, like, you know, it's hard for me to like, say, I'm never

Nathan:

going to watch a movie by this person.

Nathan:

When I realized that that's not fair to 99 percent of the

Nathan:

people that did work on these.

Nathan:

Do I not watch a movie with this?

Nathan:

I mean, is that fair to, you know, Pierce Brosnan on the ghost writer

Nathan:

or Ewan McGregor, other, or the DP or the lighting guy, these people.

Nathan:

You know, I mean, they're not getting points on these

Nathan:

movies, anything like that.

Nathan:

But at the same time, do I just completely erase these movies from

Nathan:

existence, you know, because of that.

Nathan:

But I get, I totally think it's a valid point for people to make that

Nathan:

decision to, to not watch those movies.

Nathan:

But I I'll say I've made the decision that I'm not going to just cancel a

Nathan:

director necessarily because of that, because I don't think it's fair to The

Nathan:

talent that's in a movie also, because there, you know, it's, it's not always

Nathan:

fair to everybody in it to, to, it's throwing out the baby with the bathwater

Nathan:

is the metaphor that I like to use.

Nathan:

So, but

Rob:

that's just me.

Rob:

Okay.

Rob:

I get it.

Rob:

That took me a second to understand that before.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

I know.

Nathan:

I, I, that was a very roundabout way, but, and I don't know, but

Nathan:

that's just, it's, it's, it's still something I wrestle with, but yeah.

Bee:

Was the Ghost Rider good?

Bee:

I've never seen it.

Bee:

I enjoyed

Rob:

it.

Rob:

I

Sam:

really like it.

Sam:

Yeah.

Bee:

Yeah.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

Although it is the ghostwriter is supposed to take place on Martha's

Sam:

Vineyard for a portion of it, but because the director cannot come to the U.

Sam:

S., they use an island somewhere else that is not Martha's Vineyard, does

Sam:

not look like it at all, and it's supposed to be Martha's Vineyard.

Sam:

And that, like, annoys me a little bit, but it's a good movie.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

Because I, I'm, I'm a location sensitive, I, I, I respond like I, I liked Moonrise

Sam:

Kingdom, but it takes place in like August and there's no leaves on the trees in

Sam:

one of the shots and I was like, so yeah,

Sam:

okay, responded.

Sam:

It's a weird thing, but yeah, it was a good movie though.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

Yeah.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

Two more questions, Rob.

Nathan:

What is a movie that you credit for turning you into a cinephile?

Nathan:

That

Rob:

would be the Dead Poets Society.

Rob:

Hell yeah.

Rob:

That movie turned me on to becoming a, trying to become a writer,

Rob:

writing poetry, and getting really more in depth with watching movies

Rob:

and things of that nature ultimately sparked my interest in acting.

Rob:

It, it covered a lot of different bases for me, so I definitely give a

Rob:

lot of credit to Dead Poets Society.

Rob:

Yeah.

Bee:

That's a beautiful movie.

Bee:

I cry every time I watch that movie.

Bee:

It is impossible not to for me.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

That's a great pick.

Nathan:

And last thing, what is your favorite, your favorite color, your favorite movie?

Nathan:

If you had to pick one right now today, and it obviously this could

Nathan:

change 10 minutes from now, but if you had to pick one right now,

Rob:

favorite movie, like all time,

Nathan:

all time.

Nathan:

I know it's loaded.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Bee:

It can change, you know.

Nathan:

Yeah, but you're only going to be on the show right now.

Nathan:

This is immortalized.

Rob:

Gosh.

Rob:

I'll admit, this is one of the questions that I definitely was struggling

Rob:

trying to think of beforehand.

Rob:

Not that I'm saying that I got these questions ahead of time or anything, but

Nathan:

We would never tip our hand like that.

Nathan:

No.

Nathan:

I

Rob:

guess I could say because, due to just how obsessed I was with them

Rob:

and the philosophy within them, and I kind of sort of seg, like wedged

Rob:

it in here already The Matrix.

Rob:

The Matrix.

Rob:

Yeah.

Rob:

Yeah.

Rob:

How

Bee:

did you feel about Resurrections?

Bee:

I

Rob:

I loved it.

Rob:

I'm looking forward to seeing the next.

Bee:

Yes.

Rob:

Anyone who was a hater of it, personally, I feel

Rob:

like you just didn't get it.

Rob:

Like, you didn't get, like, the overall message and how it tied.

Rob:

Did

Nathan:

I just, no, I, I, I, I don't, I don't hate it.

Nathan:

I probably just didn't like, love it.

Nathan:

I don't know.

Nathan:

I, I, you know, I need to see it again.

Nathan:

I just feel bad.

Nathan:

It's the only Matrix movie I didn't see in the theater.

Nathan:

God.

Nathan:

Oh my God.

Rob:

I,

Nathan:

oh, I saw that big screen I had to the the last one, right?

Nathan:

The one we're that where we're talking about Yeah, the latest.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

I, I didn't get to see it in the, in the theater.

Nathan:

I saw on my like 50 inch TV at home.

Nathan:

I'm like, this is not the way I wanted to experience the Matrix.

Nathan:

No, no, no, no,

Nathan:

no, no.

Nathan:

I love it.

Nathan:

No, because it was briefly in the theater, right?

Nathan:

It wasn't really, yeah.

Nathan:

Yeah, I, I

Rob:

got to, I got to see it in theaters and yeah,

Bee:

Rob, you're like, I had priorities

Rob:

and

Bee:

it was going to see,

Rob:

I've seen every single one in theaters and I like,

Rob:

I was so I don't know.

Rob:

I, it was such a big influence on things for me that like, For Christmas year,

Rob:

many, many years ago my family actually grabbed the matrix box set, which I

Rob:

have behind me, but I'm not getting up.

Rob:

But it's got every movie in it on like a a clear, like floating,

Rob:

It's got all the Animatrix movies in there.

Rob:

I love

Bee:

Animatrix.

Rob:

And it's got a bust of Neo, and it's got the three scripts

Rob:

all autographed and everything.

Rob:

That's great.

Rob:

That's so cool.

Rob:

And I was just like, I, yeah, I, I'm a big fan of that.

Rob:

That's great.

Rob:

That's awesome.

Rob:

Cool.

Sam:

All right.

Sam:

Really quick.

Sam:

I love the look, the look of machine city in revolutions,

Sam:

that place

Sam:

is terrifying to me.

Sam:

I like it when I go there.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

I'm just like obsessed with that scene.

Sam:

Anyway,

Nathan:

I have a trailer that I'm going to play in a description, but

Nathan:

let's get to that trailer first.

Nathan:

Right here.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

Come on, girls.

Nathan:

Let's go shopping.

Nathan:

This is the story of three hard working guys What kind of cabaret do you do?

Nathan:

We dress up in women's clothes and parade around mouthing the

Nathan:

words to other people's songs.

Nathan:

who are about to discover Ta da!

Nathan:

Would it be nice to do a show out of town?

Nathan:

How long is the run?

Nathan:

Four weeks.

Nathan:

that hitting the road is hard I hereby christen this budget Barbie

Nathan:

camper Priscilla, queen of the desert!

Nathan:

especially in heels.

Nathan:

Sorry.

Nathan:

Along the way, they'll discover surprises.

Nathan:

It's Gabbardine!

Nathan:

I haven't seen Gabbardine for years!

Nathan:

Uncover secrets.

Nathan:

Is it true that her real name's Ralph?

Nathan:

I'm gonna smack his face so hard.

Nathan:

And learn that with friends like these How long have we been on the road?

Nathan:

Four and a half hours.

Nathan:

Life's never a drag.

Nathan:

Let me just do a quick plot synopsis here.

Nathan:

When drag queen Anthony, played by Hugo Weaving, agrees to take his

Nathan:

act on the road, he invites fellow cross dresser Adam, played by Guy

Nathan:

Pearce, and transsexual Bernadette, played by Taryn Stamp, to come along.

Nathan:

In their colorful bus named Priscilla, the three performers travel across

Nathan:

the Australian desert performing for enthusiastic crowds and homophobic locals.

Nathan:

But when the other two performers learn the truth about why Anthony

Nathan:

took the job, it threatens their act and their friendship.

Nathan:

Now, everyone, I have in the past done something that I am not doing anymore

Nathan:

where I play like, you know, describe the plot of this movie for young children.

Nathan:

I'm retiring that, but I have an alternative that I want

Nathan:

to share with each of you.

Nathan:

I have a 12 year old daughter who.

Nathan:

She came upstairs one time while I was watching this and

Nathan:

asked me what I'm watching.

Nathan:

And I said, I'm watching this for the podcast.

Nathan:

And I told her the title of this and I said, you know,

Nathan:

what do you think it's about?

Nathan:

And she told me what she thinks to the bow.

Nathan:

I said, She wasn't even close.

Nathan:

I said, don't go anywhere.

Nathan:

I want to record this.

Nathan:

And this is a new segment that I want to start doing for our show.

Nathan:

And this is called What a 12 year old thinks this movie is about, based

Nathan:

on the title alone, and here it is.

Nathan:

It's pretty good.

Nathan:

I think that this story is about this girl who is 12.

Nathan:

Is really poor, and she's trying to find a place to live, or she's having a hard

Nathan:

time economically, and physically, and family wise, and done with it, and she

Nathan:

travels to a desert and finds a kingdom.

Nathan:

And her coming in has brought attention to her, and she's gotten

Nathan:

more popular, and then the king that is currently ruling dies.

Nathan:

And no, no, no, and the queen is already dead.

Nathan:

And the prince becomes the king, and he's trying to find A queen, and

Nathan:

she, Priscilla, ends up being the queen and rules over the kingdom,

Nathan:

and has everything that she's ever wanted, and that is how it ends.

Nathan:

Spot on.

Sam:

So that sounds much, much, much better than the Harry Potter

Sam:

bus driver spinoff, and I actually really want to see that movie.

Sam:

That sounds like a Disney movie.

Sam:

It does sound like a Disney movie.

Bee:

Honestly, that was the Florida Project meets The Princess Diaries.

Bee:

Yes.

Nathan:

I can't, I can't wait till we get a portrait of a lady on fire next week.

Nathan:

Right.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

So, Sam, do you have.

Nathan:

Some movie facts for us.

Sam:

I do.

Sam:

So the adventures of Priscilla queen of the desert was a 1994 American

Sam:

road comedy film was written and directed by Stephen Elliott, Stephen

Sam:

Elliott, excuse me starring Hugo Weaving, Guy Pearce Terrence Stamp.

Sam:

And I must say, I have not seen Hugo Weaving myself personally in many things

Sam:

except Lord of the Rings and the Matrix.

Sam:

So I thought his performance was incredible in this movie.

Sam:

It just.

Sam:

Like showed versatility as an actor, just sneaking my personal

Sam:

opinion into the facts there.

Sam:

This movie, yeah, this movie did, did

Nathan:

show Sam.

Sam:

I know.

Sam:

So this was screened at Un Certain Regard section of the 1994 Cannes

Sam:

film festival, and it became a cult classic, both in Australia and beyond.

Sam:

The cinema it's written by Stefan Elliott as well.

Sam:

And cinematography is by a gentleman named Brian J Breheny, and he, I looked

Sam:

up some of his work interestingly enough, he shot The Phantom, the 1996

Sam:

comic book movie with Billy Zane, which I remember liking, was not a huge fan

Sam:

of the film, but I liked the jungle, luscious, vilif Like colors in the movie.

Sam:

So I thought that was pretty like definitely a good cinematographer.

Sam:

This did was a like modest success.

Sam:

I mean, it did well.

Sam:

It was made out for a budget of 2.

Sam:

7 million Australian dollars.

Sam:

And yeah, exactly.

Sam:

And in.

Sam:

It actually did well at the box office.

Sam:

It took 18 million at the box office in Australia in 1994, which is the

Sam:

equivalent of around 38 million today.

Sam:

And it was the fifth highest grossing Australian film in

Sam:

Australia of all time at that time.

Sam:

Just some cool last minute mentions on the filming locations.

Sam:

The Imperial.

Sam:

Hotel in Erksonville, Sydney was the filming location for

Sam:

the opening and closing scenes.

Sam:

The Imperial Hotel in real life has hosted drag shows since 1983

Sam:

and actually continues to be an icon for Sydney's LGBT community.

Sam:

And they also decided to film at a place called Coober Petty, which is a remote

Sam:

and rough, rough, outdoor like opal mining town in South Central Australia,

Sam:

which featured prominently in the film.

Sam:

And I thought that desolate location, like really added to the visuals experience.

Sam:

So post production when the director and the editor were working

Sam:

on it they had received notes from the studio to shorten it.

Sam:

And I find that interesting.

Sam:

I'll mention that later briefly in my review, but I, I thought the, the, Pacing

Sam:

of this movie is actually pretty good.

Sam:

And I like, liked the, like running length.

Sam:

I thought it told the story well.

Sam:

And yeah, if you guys have anything to add, that's just basic production info.

Sam:

Yeah, not beyond that.

Sam:

There's more, but yeah, this

Nathan:

was, I read this is shot in the same location as the road

Nathan:

warrior, so think about that.

Nathan:

Were we Yes.

Sam:

Did not do that.

Sam:

I did not know that.

Sam:

You just blew my mind right there.

Sam:

Wow.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

I

Nathan:

mean, think about this also.

Nathan:

We've, we, how we have been in the desert for a month and just when

Nathan:

we finished the Mad Max franchise.

Nathan:

Here we are again, back in this desolate wasteland.

Nathan:

We're not leaving anytime soon.

Sam:

We have come a long way from being stuck with Liam Neeson in the

Sam:

snowy mountain being chased by wolves.

Sam:

Like, it's been a geological shift.

Nathan:

No, but seriously, we've been stuck in the mountains and isolated

Nathan:

areas, or we've been in the desert.

Nathan:

I mean, like, it's been one isolated, like, desolate area or another.

Nathan:

Thank God we watched The Notebook

Bee:

somewhere in there.

Bee:

He broke up the monotony.

Bee:

I mean, like it's, it's been a pretty stark 2024.

Sam:

All of 2025 should just be movies that take place in New York city.

Sam:

Just kidding.

Bee:

I really wanted to see, there's a, there's a documentary about the making of

Bee:

this that came out, I don't know, maybe eight or 10 years ago at this point.

Bee:

And I didn't get around to seeing it this week.

Bee:

I'm disappointed.

Bee:

But if anyone.

Bee:

Saw this movie, likes this movie and wants more info on it.

Bee:

On Hoopla, you can see between a frock and a hard place and talks about, talks

Bee:

about the making of this movie and it, and they brought everyone back and

Rob:

I'd like to see that.

Bee:

I'd like to see that.

Rob:

As far as fun facts, I will say you mentioned the

Rob:

desolate area that they shot in.

Sam:

Yes.

Sam:

What was it called again?

Sam:

It was called, it was Coober Petty, I believe.

Sam:

Let me just, yeah, oh yeah, Coober Petty with a D, P E D Y, yeah.

Sam:

It turns out that

Rob:

place was relatively close to, like, the, the overall, like, attitude.

Rob:

And the way it's depicted in the film is actually really

Rob:

close to how it was back then.

Rob:

Wow.

Rob:

And after this film came out it changed.

Rob:

They actually now have, have drag drag shows and have a parade each

Rob:

year and everything like that.

Rob:

So it actually drastically changed how things were in that place.

Rob:

That's amazing.

Rob:

It's

Sam:

like how it changed it.

Sam:

But also now that the town considers it like sort of a badge of honor

Sam:

to be in that they're like, we were in this movie and like, I like that

Sam:

they race that like, that's cool.

Sam:

Yeah.

Rob:

And another thing that I thought was interesting was that

Rob:

the the woman who plays Bob's wife.

Rob:

The Asian.

Rob:

Julia Cortez from Mighty Morphin

Bee:

Power Rangers.

Bee:

I was

Rob:

just gonna say that.

Rob:

That first and foremost, this was her debut and it got followed up with Mighty

Rob:

Morphin Power Rangers as Rita Repulsa.

Bee:

What a cool resume.

Rob:

Right?

Nathan:

Few, I want to just mention a few awards.

Nathan:

I mean, this won a decent amount of awards across many prestigious film

Nathan:

festivals, but the Academy Awards, it did win Best Costume Design.

Nathan:

And which is rare for a contemporary movie to win best cost design.

Nathan:

I remember that was mentioned a few times in, in a lot of notes around the film.

Nathan:

Also the, the AACTA, the Australian Academy Awards, this did very well.

Nathan:

One best production design and costume design, but nominated for

Nathan:

best film, best direction, best original screenplay, best actor, best

Nathan:

cinematography, and best original score.

Nathan:

This movie was a success all around and in the American box office, it made 29.

Nathan:

7 million on a 2 million budget.

Nathan:

I know you mentioned the standby.

Nathan:

Just want to emphasize this.

Nathan:

This was a highly profitable movie.

Nathan:

. And also I like to also look at the the box office around

Nathan:

the time that this came out.

Nathan:

This came out on May 15th, 1994.

Nathan:

Also, on this day, clear and Present Danger came out on the same day, the third

Nathan:

film in the Jet, wait, wait a minute.

Nathan:

No.

Sam:

Clear and Present Danger came out in August, 1994, not to be, I'm, no,

Nathan:

not May 15th.

Nathan:

That's when a premier in, in Canne, August.

Nathan:

Oh.

Nathan:

Oh, gotcha.

Nathan:

August.

Nathan:

August 10th.

Nathan:

You're right.

Nathan:

August 10th, 1994.

Nathan:

You, you're right Sam.

Nathan:

You are on top of it.

Nathan:

I meant to say.

Nathan:

I just remember that specific.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Also on this day was The Little Rascals, which I did never see.

Nathan:

I never saw that.

Nathan:

You've

Bee:

never seen The Little Rascals?

Nathan:

And the other movie that debuted on this day in August was

Nathan:

Airheads, the comedy with Adam Sandler, Brendan Fraser, and Steve Buscemi

Nathan:

which amazingly I have also never seen.

Rob:

Oh,

Nathan:

it's

Rob:

so good.

Rob:

I mean, it's so dumb, but it's so good because it's dumb.

Rob:

You

Bee:

need junk food in the ecosystem, you know?

Nathan:

So that's, that rounds out my trivia.

Nathan:

Oh, a couple of the things about casting that never happened.

Nathan:

Tim Curry was turned down the role of Mitzi.

Nathan:

Other casting that almost happened, but didn't, David Bowie was considered,

Nathan:

John Cleese, Tony Curtis, which would have been so fascinating considering

Nathan:

that he was in some like it hot, like.

Nathan:

30 something years or 40 years before John Hurt, Rupert Everett,

Nathan:

Colin Firth were all considered.

Nathan:

So I, you know, but I'm really, I'm assuming Tony Curtis would have been

Nathan:

the Terrence Stamp role, but that would have been a great bookend.

Nathan:

But you know what?

Nathan:

I'll tell you, Terrence Stamp was probably my favorite.

Nathan:

Part of this movie, but we'll get to my review in a little bit.

Nathan:

Anyways, the thing is,

Rob:

is that so many actors pass it up because at the time it was always thought

Rob:

that like, yeah, if you go on to play a gay character, your career is over.

Rob:

Yeah.

Rob:

Like that's, that's a career killer.

Rob:

And this

Sam:

may be the complete opposite.

Sam:

Exactly.

Sam:

And like like a Hollywood producer in like 1994 would like, be like, Oh my

Sam:

God, I terrified to finance it because of like, you know, they wouldn't know

Sam:

if it would like the film would find an audience, but it's like a different time.

Sam:

And it's just like, it's, it's amazing that it was such a big success.

Sam:

Like it did really well.

Nathan:

Like, so B, are you ready to get into this?

Bee:

Yeah, sure.

Bee:

So it had been a while since I saw this movie.

Bee:

I don't remember the first time that I'd seen it, but I've, I've

Bee:

definitely seen it a couple of times.

Bee:

And, you know, despite the accolades that it's gotten, I went in a little

Bee:

concerned that it was going to age like milk, you know, I was, I was

Bee:

unsure how this movie that stars three straight men was, was going to hold up.

Bee:

But I think.

Bee:

It's I think it's good.

Bee:

I like this movie.

Bee:

I have a fun time sitting down and watching it.

Bee:

It's it's a great road movie.

Bee:

I think it's a good movie about someone whose career is getting tiresome.

Bee:

Like for me, this is this is Terrence Stamps movie all day.

Bee:

And I think Terrence does a good job with this character.

Bee:

Does it fall into some dated pitfalls?

Bee:

Yeah, absolutely.

Bee:

It does.

Bee:

I think that's, you know, unavoidable.

Bee:

But I think, you know, At every opportunity, this movie

Bee:

punches up and I like that.

Bee:

I think that's what bolsters this movie and keeps it going as a success

Bee:

outside of some really fun visuals.

Bee:

I mean, I could watch Guy Pearce on the top of a bus all day long with

Bee:

those flowing gorgeous fabrics.

Bee:

I mean, come on.

Bee:

And I, I do think the didgeridoo should be in more drag songs.

Bee:

That was a blast.

Bee:

We should, we should bring that one back.

Bee:

But no, I, I, Our language has changed, our culture has shifted,

Bee:

the way we talk about these things has changed for the better and we

Bee:

have better representation now.

Bee:

But the story of wanting familial acceptance, of getting tired of

Bee:

your career and trying to find a place in the twilight of your

Bee:

career those things are still true.

Bee:

And it's still true that it's better to punch up than it is to punch down.

Bee:

So I, I still enjoyed this movie and I was, I was glad to, to see that it held

Bee:

up a little bit for me the way it did.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

I guess I'm next.

Nathan:

So I'm so excited.

Nathan:

Nathan

Sam:

stars.

Sam:

Oh, yeah.

Sam:

I gotta give stars to this movie.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

You know me, I'm a number guy.

Sam:

Number guy.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

You're right.

Bee:

No, that's, that's fair.

Bee:

What

Nathan:

do you give it?

Bee:

You know, it's hard for me to, to pick with this one cause it, it's

Bee:

just kind of such an institution and the stuff that I like in this movie,

Bee:

I gotta tell you, I really like and the stuff that ruffles me in this

Bee:

movie really ruffles me, but I think it's a, a solid three and a half.

Nathan:

Okay.

Bee:

I think that's my average rating.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

So this, this is my first time seeing this and I liked this movie a decent

Nathan:

amount when I looked at the cast of this film, especially Terrence Stamp and Hugo

Nathan:

Weaving from when I read the premise of this film and what their roles were.

Nathan:

I couldn't even fathom what I was in for, but I was riveted

Nathan:

by the depth of the film.

Nathan:

Of these characters.

Nathan:

I knew nothing about this movie.

Nathan:

Had it in, like I said, I didn't, I didn't even watch the trailer.

Nathan:

I went in cold.

Nathan:

I only knew that this movie involved drag queens and I'll admit I was

Nathan:

confused if this was Priscilla or if I was watching too long food,

Nathan:

which I've never seen either.

Nathan:

So I don't know.

Nathan:

I thought I was going to show up in this movie at some point.

Nathan:

I didn't, I had no idea.

Nathan:

The only character that I wish was served a little better was Guy Pearce.

Nathan:

I do feel that his arc gets the short shrift, which is too bad

Nathan:

because his character I feel is also the most stereotypical.

Nathan:

He desperately needed just a little more agency in this movie, but

Nathan:

there's also an amazing flashback scene involving his character, which

Nathan:

I'm sure we're going to talk about.

Nathan:

I, and I love road trip movies.

Nathan:

The road trip is typically a style of film where the trip itself is a

Nathan:

metaphor for the internal journey.

Nathan:

And in this case, the bus is their safe haven.

Nathan:

It's where the trio can reside in comfort.

Nathan:

It's their sanctuary.

Nathan:

It's literally transporting them on their path to self discovery and acceptance.

Nathan:

The bus is a flamboyant and colorful and, and it's a contrast to this

Nathan:

rugged, desolate landscape, which.

Nathan:

Emphasizes this clash.

Bee:

Well, the bus also suffers a little bit of abuse.

Nathan:

Oh yeah.

Nathan:

The bus is them.

Nathan:

It's their skin.

Nathan:

It is their skin.

Nathan:

I going to say?

Nathan:

So, so it's, it's like I said, it's, it's, it's a contrast with this like

Nathan:

rugged, desolate landscape, which emphasizes this like clash between

Nathan:

their vibrant identities and the conservative and hostile environments

Nathan:

that they encounter on their trip.

Nathan:

That also leads to one of my gripes with this film and that

Nathan:

the hostility they encounter.

Nathan:

Which seems a little out of place for this time.

Nathan:

Now, I could be wrong about this, but this is 1994.

Nathan:

And yes, they do encounter hostility.

Nathan:

But the world, for the most part, seems quite progressive.

Nathan:

I, I thought.

Nathan:

I lived through this era.

Nathan:

And I, I attended a very progressive and liberal university in Boston.

Nathan:

And still witness acts of hostility.

Nathan:

Much worse than what is depicted here in this movie.

Nathan:

Homophobia, I don't think is dealt with realistically in this movie.

Nathan:

I'm

Nathan:

not a gay man or drag queen, and I'm not in this community.

Nathan:

So I obviously I'm talking as an outsider, but I've experienced.

Nathan:

It's the story of two people who have experienced firsthand,

Nathan:

horrible acts of hate toward indiscriminate towards this community.

Nathan:

I've seen it.

Nathan:

And it's obvious that this film's purpose wasn't to tell that story.

Nathan:

And that's perfectly fine.

Nathan:

Not every film about the LGBTQ community has to be this

Nathan:

dramatic, sad, or brutal movie.

Nathan:

I understand that.

Nathan:

And I think it's good that the movies like this exist that celebrate and are fun.

Nathan:

And, and that's great.

Nathan:

So, I, I, that's good.

Nathan:

So I, it seems though that this film is picking and choosing where and when it

Nathan:

wants to be serious about the real world.

Nathan:

And I found that to be just a little suspect.

Nathan:

So I think this movie is trying to have its cake and eat it too.

Nathan:

So I like this movie, I give it still three and a half and we'll get into

Nathan:

more of those Issues in a little bit.

Sam:

All right, Sam.

Sam:

So I actually too, I had never seen it before I, but I was aware of it.

Sam:

I was 13 in 1994 and I remember just like friends of my parents talking

Sam:

about it, how much they liked it.

Sam:

I was aware of its presence, didn't know much about it.

Sam:

And having literally just watched it yesterday.

Sam:

It's like it's still really fresh in my mind.

Sam:

I would overall say that I was genuinely entertained and I enjoyed this movie.

Sam:

I was immediately aware of the 1994.

Sam:

like vibe and like be to your point, like whether you, whether you were seeing

Sam:

like how well it aged or not, I could immediately like feel it's datedness.

Sam:

But I found that because the storytelling was good and because I liked the

Sam:

characters and was involved in their adventure, that I just, my brain kind

Sam:

of was like, okay, this is a 1994 film.

Sam:

This is this time period.

Sam:

This is the style that I just could kind of like accept that and roll with it.

Sam:

I will say for me, and I always am fascinated by technical things with movies

Sam:

like pacing and structure and editing.

Sam:

That's like my main thing.

Sam:

I liked the second half of this film a lot better than the first.

Sam:

I thought the first was good but, but because I didn't know like

Sam:

where it was headed, I thought like we're meeting these characters.

Sam:

It took me a while to sort of like shift to like the, The tonality.

Sam:

And then I got on board, but I felt that the second half really

Sam:

like went in a lot of depth more.

Sam:

And it's, it's, and Nathan, to your point, like, and I really know what

Sam:

you mean about like the scenes of like bigotry, maybe like sort of

Sam:

being like sanitized in the film or like there weren't enough of them.

Sam:

I thought I, I agree with that.

Sam:

I thought though, to the movie's credit, I thought it did a good job cinematically

Sam:

wise, shifting between like their lighthearted discussions in like the

Sam:

safety bubble inside the bus to like harsh realities that they'd experience

Sam:

out on the road, out in the world.

Sam:

And I thought that jarring juxtaposition was actually pretty good.

Sam:

Cause at least the movie was trying to be like, this is, this is where this,

Sam:

the darkness comes out of nowhere.

Sam:

Basically.

Sam:

I was, I was, to be honest, because I'd never seen him, I was genuinely

Sam:

terrified in the scene when Guy Pearce, like, does drugs and he goes out to,

Sam:

like, the mining town by himself.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

I, because I didn't know, I did not know the movie.

Sam:

I was like, oh my god, is this, like, a major twist plot point?

Sam:

Like, is, will his character, like, survive?

Sam:

I didn't know what was going to happen, so I thought that there

Sam:

was, like, genuine suspense there.

Sam:

And although his arc was, like Quieter.

Sam:

I, I did, I, you saw that that sort of experience had

Sam:

such a profound effect on him.

Sam:

I'll also say that even though it seemed overwhelmingly positive, almost

Sam:

unrealistically, so I do like the fact that the film chose to have a young kid

Sam:

accepting of his father, because in the history of cinema and Hollywood, you

Sam:

don't really see like sons, like sons, you know, looking up to their dads a lot.

Sam:

It's always like about the conflict.

Sam:

So the fact that they went that route, even though it felt slightly

Sam:

idealistic, like, man, this is so great.

Sam:

I was really glad that I just felt that it was really appropriate for the movie.

Sam:

And I liked the ending.

Sam:

The ending is a

Bee:

breath of fresh air.

Bee:

It

Sam:

is.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

And you need it.

Sam:

Like, I just like the optimism.

Sam:

So like, I'm aware.

Sam:

of Hollywood, 1994.

Sam:

I know it would be very different today.

Sam:

Like, you know, in terms of representation, like obviously the,

Sam:

the casting is a 1994 thing, but I accepting it as the movie of its time.

Sam:

I think it's a very enjoyable film, like very, it's, it's not the

Sam:

deepest character depth in the world, but it's like, I like the story.

Sam:

I like the characters and I like the arc, and I really enjoyed it.

Sam:

So I would give.

Sam:

I would give three and a half stars as well.

Sam:

It's above a three.

Sam:

It's not a four for me, but it's, I positively like, I

Sam:

would recommend this movie.

Sam:

I liked it.

Bee:

And I'm not wanting it to be toothier.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

No, exactly.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

And I, and I didn't know what to expect.

Sam:

I just, the experience I had, it was like an entertaining and I just, I

Sam:

like road movies in general also.

Sam:

So the fact that they had that narrative vehicle, like I didn't know,

Sam:

I thought it might take all place at one, you know, nightclub and the

Sam:

whole movie would be like in one.

Sam:

And I didn't know they went on this like.

Sam:

And I'm all about, I love quests.

Sam:

Like that's I, on my YouTube channel, I do is drive around all the time.

Sam:

So that's what I relate to it.

Sam:

Like it's, it's, I love it.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

Thank you, Sam.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

So let's get into the plot of this.

Nathan:

Who would like to, how would we want to jump into this?

Nathan:

So it starts off, first of all, I think we should talk about.

Nathan:

Some of the, the most, the biggest aspects of this in, well, I don't know.

Nathan:

I, I loved the, the dance numbers in this and the makeup of this.

Nathan:

I, there are four or five major dance numbers.

Nathan:

song and dance numbers in this.

Nathan:

What did you guys think of this?

Nathan:

Cause I think when I think of this movie, it is about these, the, the,

Nathan:

when they do dress in drag, and I did not know what to expect, even the

Nathan:

cover of this, of the poster, you don't get to see these main actors in drag.

Nathan:

So I did not know what to expect, but

Bee:

I love the flip flop dress, bring back the flip flop dress.

Rob:

You know, that flip flop dress only costs 7.

Rob:

No way!

Rob:

Yeah.

Rob:

That's amazing.

Rob:

And it won awards.

Bee:

I guess in Australia they'd call it a thong dress, which is

Bee:

just even more campy and fun.

Bee:

Yes, they do call it

Nathan:

thong.

Nathan:

Mm hmm.

Nathan:

I would say Guy Pearce looks great in drag.

Nathan:

Like he, like he is, he's jacked in this.

Nathan:

And yeah!

Nathan:

I really like Terrence Stamp's

Bee:

like coastal grandma thing.

Bee:

That was great.

Nathan:

What's that be?

Bee:

I like Terrence Stamp's, like, coastal grandma vibes.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Bee:

It's fun.

Nathan:

Everybody, I thought, was really great in this.

Nathan:

I, I mean, I think we might agree on this.

Nathan:

I mean, Terrence Stamp is, I feel, is the heart and soul of this movie.

Nathan:

His, his story is really, really, I mean, it sets the really, like, harsh

Nathan:

tone in the very beginning where his, I think, is it his, his, his wife?

Nathan:

That died in, at the funeral.

Nathan:

I'm trying to remember exactly.

Nathan:

His

Bee:

young lover.

Bee:

His

Nathan:

young lover.

Nathan:

Trumpet.

Bee:

Trumpet, who's buried with his trumpet.

Rob:

Yes.

Rob:

Yeah, that took, that, that took me off guard with the pan down and just like, No.

Rob:

Trumpet.

Rob:

Like, okay, we get, alright, we get it.

Rob:

His name is Trumpet.

Rob:

That is.

Rob:

Alright.

Bee:

There's a few times where I watch this movie and I feel a little bit

Bee:

like I'm watching The Birdcage and that funeral scene, very Birdcage esque.

Bee:

It's

Rob:

funny you say that because after I was done watching it today,

Rob:

the first thing that came up for like the play next was The Birdcage.

Rob:

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Rob:

I get it.

Rob:

I get it.

Rob:

And actually, this was my first time watching the film as well.

Rob:

You know, I mean, when it came out, I was 10 years old,

Rob:

not 13.

Rob:

Yeah.

Rob:

And no, I, I enjoyed it.

Rob:

It was, it was very good.

Rob:

The, the harsher scenes, I felt like, For me, from my perspective, felt very real.

Rob:

Um, do they feel a little sanitized?

Rob:

Yeah.

Rob:

But like, I definitely have personally dealt with that sort of thing myself.

Rob:

And as far as the child, I, I loved that they had the kids so accepting, like

Rob:

immediately, because it just goes to show.

Rob:

That like, at the end of the day, we're all like, Oh, no, we shouldn't be

Rob:

exposing kids to gay this and gay that.

Rob:

And I mean, even now with, you know you know, trans, Or

Rob:

rapidly regressing countries.

Rob:

Storytelling sessions being like, Oh, we can't expose the kids.

Rob:

kids don't care.

Rob:

Yeah.

Rob:

And that

Rob:

was what I loved about it was it wasn't like, Oh, well,

Rob:

you know what your father does?

Rob:

Yeah, mom says you're the best in the world.

Rob:

Done.

Rob:

Mm hmm.

Rob:

Like that's the end of the subject.

Rob:

Not like, Oh, you mean you're gay?

Rob:

Oh my god.

Sam:

I love I love that scene.

Sam:

I love Hugo Weaving's like reaction when he's just amazed and

Sam:

he's like, He was so accepting.

Sam:

And he's like, he smiles.

Sam:

And like, he like that, that, that was really like, I just, it was like, the

Nathan:

weight of the world is off his shoulders where he realizes

Nathan:

that his son, he doesn't have to hide who he is to his son.

Nathan:

Like you could

Rob:

see that.

Rob:

Like.

Rob:

That initial adult fear within Hugo Weaving of like the whole like, Oh, well,

Rob:

you know, I got to dress like a man around my kid cause I don't need him knowing.

Rob:

And you know, and that little, that quick little banter of like,

Rob:

you know, Oh, come on, butch.

Rob:

And this, that, the other thing.

Rob:

And even still like when everybody's wanting to go get dressed to be

Rob:

themselves and he's just like I don't know what you're talking about.

Rob:

I don't, I don't do that.

Rob:

Outside of performing.

Rob:

I thought that, was I giving him that kind of accent?

Rob:

No, I love

Sam:

that.

Sam:

No, but I, I thought that was like brutally like

Sam:

realistic and I loved hug Go.

Sam:

He was acting when he was trying to like, you know, quote

Sam:

unquote toughen up for his son.

Sam:

He is like, well, I, I don't dress like this all the time.

Sam:

He was like, it's like he was trying to play that character.

Sam:

He was like and, and then he was like.

Sam:

Dealing with it like struggling with it awkwardly.

Sam:

And then when it was just like the release, I just thought that was

Sam:

really like, that felt very real to me.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

Oh, yeah.

Sam:

And the

Bee:

reveal of his his wife being just happy to see him just

Bee:

came in and you save the day.

Bee:

Like having this trio be the people who save the day and have everybody you.

Bee:

Recognize that and be glad to have them there.

Bee:

I was just like, Oh,

Sam:

it was brilliant because they set up his wife brilliantly.

Sam:

Cause when she's in the bar on the phone, she's on a phone call.

Sam:

That's not going well.

Sam:

She's like, Oh, we'll just tell him that there's something off.

Sam:

And so I, I, I feel like this was intentional by the director.

Sam:

They set up that scene where I thought she was going to start

Sam:

yelling at him or be this like awkward, like they don't have rapport.

Sam:

And then she's like the greatest person ever.

Sam:

And I thought it was brilliant because I was just not expecting

Sam:

that, especially since Hugo weaving like a few minutes before was like,

Sam:

when he was talking to Guy Pearce, he's like, tomorrow's going to be.

Sam:

Difficult for me enough without you.

Sam:

Like, and so he's like already stressed.

Sam:

So you feel stressed as the audience going into it.

Sam:

And then you're like, Oh, I feel better too.

Sam:

You know, there's a

Nathan:

great, there's a great moment about Hugo Weaving's wife that happens.

Nathan:

Well, there, this is later in the movie where they've already connected up

Nathan:

with Bob and they're like camping out.

Nathan:

And this is just shows how amazing Terrence Stamps is.

Nathan:

Is in this movie and his character and how great is, I was so impressed with

Nathan:

how, how Bernadette anchors, like I said, the emotional heart of this movie

Nathan:

and What I thought was, was great is that he's not the butt of any jokes.

Nathan:

Bernadette is a fully fleshed out character.

Nathan:

And what's special is that it's not really about being trans.

Nathan:

He simply it's a simply a person who is grieving a huge loss.

Nathan:

She has this incredible dignity and poise and is serving as a voice

Nathan:

of reason throughout the story.

Nathan:

And I'm connecting this to Hugo Weaving's wife.

Nathan:

Bernadette says something when, about the wife.

Nathan:

Cause Hugo Weaving says, you know, it's going to be, tomorrow's going

Nathan:

to be a really rough day and you know, but please don't say anything.

Nathan:

It's going to be rough.

Nathan:

And Bernadette says, you know, we're not going to say anything

Nathan:

until you say it's okay.

Nathan:

And then

Nathan:

it's open season because they want, they want to like gang up on him and

Nathan:

make fun of him about this whole thing.

Nathan:

Why you have a wife and like, they can't wait to dig their claws into him.

Nathan:

But the respect that they still have for each other.

Nathan:

It's just admirable.

Nathan:

I just love the friendship that those two have and the understanding.

Nathan:

And there's, there's just such a great character moment and a great

Nathan:

friendship moment that they have when, when, when Bernadette says that.

Nathan:

It just says so much about, it's so well written too.

Nathan:

And the way that that's delivered.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Also the relationship that Bernadette has with this character

Nathan:

of Bob that we meet later on.

Nathan:

It is one of the most.

Nathan:

Gentle and heartwarming courtships.

Nathan:

I think I've seen in a movie in a long time.

Nathan:

It's not there to, we're not making fun of this relationship.

Nathan:

It is just handled so deftly and beautifully.

Nathan:

I also

Sam:

thought that relationship was, was really good because it was

Sam:

unexpected, like it was not predictable.

Sam:

I thought this movie did a good job at like having character surprises

Sam:

and organic moments like that.

Sam:

Like it could have, it could have really fallen more into

Sam:

like traps of like tropes.

Sam:

You know what I mean?

Sam:

But I just thought like, it was very like everything that that's what made it

Sam:

like breathe and feel like real to me.

Sam:

Like I cared and invested in these characters.

Sam:

I wasn't just watching like a screenwriter, like, With a

Sam:

narrow, you know what I'm saying?

Sam:

Like, yeah.

Rob:

Right.

Rob:

And, and fun fact about the actor who played Bob Bill Hunter, he

Rob:

was actually filming another movie at the same time as this one.

Rob:

That was like, like very far away from like the set for for Priscilla.

Rob:

And in that movie he has short hair and no beard.

Rob:

Oh my god.

Sam:

How did they do that?

Sam:

Did he get like, I'm assuming

Rob:

that like, his beard grew back in the time between kinda

Rob:

thing in order to like, do it.

Rob:

But yeah, he was working on Muriel's wedding,

Bee:

At the same time.

Sam:

Wow.

Bee:

Wow.

Bee:

Interesting.

Sam:

That is a busy schedule.

Bee:

Yeah.

Sam:

Right?

Sam:

Yeah.

Bee:

That's, his, his arc and journey is really tough for me.

Bee:

He's one of the characters that I sort of grapple with because I just,

Bee:

I bristle up against his relationship with Julia Cortez so much and the

Bee:

treatment of that and, and maybe Bob's.

Bee:

fetishization of, of women.

Bee:

And it just, yeah, it didn't, it didn't feel great, but I liked that

Bee:

Bernadette had agency the whole time.

Bee:

Yeah.

Rob:

So for me with Julia, I was a little ruffled as well.

Rob:

Like at first I was like, Oh my God, because the first thing she says is in

Rob:

Tagalog, which is Filipino language, and I'm personally half Filipino.

Rob:

And so hearing that, In the movie and I was, I was like, Oh

Rob:

my God, we're being represented.

Rob:

Like, Oh, I mean, I mean, yeah, she's swearing at him right now,

Rob:

but like, you know, like she's literally calling him a motherfucker.

Rob:

It's a very first line of hers, but I'm gonna mow it like that's motherfucker.

Rob:

She's just like, Oh, you motherfucker.

Rob:

But then to see like how she was portrayed the rest of the way, as far

Rob:

as kind of feeling more stereotypical Asian in, in cinema where there's not

Rob:

like, oh, you know, with the language barrier and sounding very like Asian.

Rob:

Like, Oh yeah, no me this, me that, and it's like, Hmm,

Rob:

you're losing me here with this.

Bee:

And I, I totally agree.

Bee:

It was, it was a tough watch.

Bee:

I do like that she, she is not submissive to Bob's character ever.

Bee:

She's making choices.

Bee:

She's making the choices to leave.

Bee:

But it's not a great, it's not a great representation of her.

Bee:

And I think it portrays Bob as someone who is just I wonder if when he first

Bee:

meets Bernadette and he first meets the trio, he's thinking of them as

Bee:

people who might be sex workers.

Bee:

And there's that reference later that Bernadette makes sort of a tongue in

Bee:

cheek, calling her a mail order bride.

Bee:

And, and I, I sort of, that layer is there for Bob.

Bee:

That's one of the aspects of the film that I just struggled with.

Bee:

But I mean, We get to see Bernadette wake up with a face full of cake

Bee:

and they obviously have a great night around a campfire, so.

Bee:

A pink cake.

Bee:

A pink cake!

Bee:

Which, where did they get that?

Bee:

Yeah, I

Rob:

didn't ask questions on that.

Rob:

I know, I know.

Rob:

Like, considering where they are and all of a sudden they've

Rob:

got this bright pink cake.

Rob:

Yeah, sure.

Rob:

Perfect.

Bee:

Perfect.

Bee:

And actually,

Rob:

the outfit that Julia is wearing during that infamous ping pong scene.

Rob:

Oh yeah.

Rob:

That's hers.

Rob:

Ah, camera ready.

Rob:

That's actually

Rob:

Julia's.

Rob:

And that ping pong scene actually later inspired a scene in South Park's movie

Rob:

South Park's Bigger, Longer, and Uncut.

Rob:

Oh

Rob:

my god, I remember

Rob:

that, yes.

Rob:

Oh wow.

Rob:

Yes.

Rob:

Yes.

Rob:

Yeah.

Rob:

Wow.

Rob:

Five years later and you got that going.

Rob:

I

Nathan:

want to talk about a character we haven't talked about enough so far.

Nathan:

And that's Adam Guy, Guy Pierce's character.

Nathan:

And cause I feel like he gets, like I said before, a little bit of the short shrift

Nathan:

here, he's kinda, I think not fleshed out as much as I like him too, but.

Nathan:

What did you guys think about the, the, that, that little flashback scene?

Nathan:

Cause I think it really subverted our expectations and

Nathan:

I'll just mention first year.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Because this is a scene which could, I think in a lot of other movies would

Nathan:

have been a very brutal, inciting moment where we learn Possibly the way that

Nathan:

Adam is the way he is and here he is as an eight or nine year old boy and

Nathan:

he's invited into the bathroom where his uncle Benny is taking a bath.

Nathan:

This scene is laying the groundwork for what, like I said, we'd expect

Nathan:

the moment where Adam is either sexually assaulted and molested by

Nathan:

this man and thus why Adam is the type of person he is as an adult, but it

Nathan:

completely subverts our expectations.

Nathan:

Instead, young Adam turns the tables on Benny.

Nathan:

In a very hysterical twist, I'd say, I love that this film

Nathan:

chooses this path because it shows that Adam is not a victim.

Nathan:

Adam is a drag queen because he chooses to be, not because of trauma.

Nathan:

And I think it gives this character a lot of power.

Nathan:

So I, I love this choice for this movie.

Nathan:

I just wish that Adam just had more in this movie because he

Nathan:

does kind of become a victim in this movie a little bit later on.

Nathan:

But I, but I do love this moment, but I don't know what your thoughts

Nathan:

are on the Adam character in general.

Nathan:

Anyone

Nathan:

has

Nathan:

open ended.

Nathan:

I know

Rob:

that scene in particular, I was very nervous.

Rob:

I was like, Oh my God, what's going to happen?

Rob:

Yeah.

Rob:

Yeah.

Rob:

I was just like, Oh my God, how are they going this route?

Rob:

Like, first and foremost, just, just from like an acting perspective to

Rob:

have a child actor seemingly do this.

Rob:

I mean, I imagine it wasn't like there wasn't anywhere near closeness to that.

Rob:

I'm sure like the person wasn't actually in the tub for that shot and

Rob:

all that, but it was still just like, Oh my God, are they really going?

Rob:

Going for this and then to have him just like pull the plug literally and

Rob:

figuratively Was kind of, was, was, was definitely a relief, to say the least.

Bee:

And how it circles around in the end, and he's like best buds with Missy's kid.

Rob:

They're doing piggyback,

Bee:

they're riding around, you know, he's just, I thought that was, that was great.

Sam:

Turns out he's really great with kids.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

Exactly.

Sam:

I just like how things worked out.

Sam:

Like I liked that arc.

Bee:

He's one of the only characters who really gets a flashback moment.

Bee:

I mean, Hugo Weaving has the famous one for the

Nathan:

Bernadette has a flashback.

Nathan:

Remember where he switches out the Christmas presents?

Nathan:

Oh, right.

Nathan:

Briefly.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Right.

Nathan:

Not, yeah I want to talk about the dance numbers for a moment.

Nathan:

I started to talk about before.

Nathan:

There, there is all this build up.

Nathan:

First of all, I want to say one thing.

Nathan:

The opening number with Hugo Weaving, I forget, what, what song is it?

Bee:

I am not gonna remember.

Bee:

It

Nathan:

is

Nathan:

I, I wrote it.

Nathan:

I've typed it out somewhere here.

Nathan:

I forget what it is.

Nathan:

Anyways, this movie starts off with Terrence Stamps

Nathan:

singing a song by some artists.

Nathan:

I forget who it is.

Nathan:

I, I hate this opening.

Nathan:

I'll be, I'll be, I, I find, I don't like the song.

Nathan:

Number one, I find this to be a very low energy Opening and maybe

Nathan:

it's supposed to be because this is where he is kind of mentally

Sam:

couldn't agree more.

Sam:

And I, it's amazing.

Sam:

You said it because I actually, that, that the opening and the beginning,

Sam:

just the pacing and that the way it started, that's what took, it took

Sam:

me a while to like, shake that off.

Sam:

I just felt like it was very kind of like standard, you know, like, and

Sam:

here's a montage that it's like, yeah,

Nathan:

it might be because I don't like the song.

Nathan:

And just because it's not, it's not like this fabulous intro.

Nathan:

I mean, there are so many great dance numbers and lip syncing numbers

Nathan:

in this drag moments in this, but that opening, it's just low energy.

Nathan:

And it just could be because of where his character is.

Nathan:

You know, emotionally in this, his heart's not in it, obviously.

Nathan:

That's where he's coming from.

Nathan:

But I just, I just like, Oh my God, where is this, where's this movie taking me?

Nathan:

And I'm glad that that's not the type of the, the type of drag shows

Nathan:

we're going to watch in this, because it goes to, there are some great

Nathan:

moments when they're performing for the Aborigines halfway through this

Nathan:

movie, that is, I actually think that might be the highlight of the movie.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Or there, I think the saying, I will survive, I think this, I think the

Nathan:

doing I will survive out in the desert.

Bee:

With the

Rob:

didgeridoo.

Rob:

With the didgeridoo.

Nathan:

Yeah, it's great.

Nathan:

It's great.

Nathan:

And, but my point is, and I think actually fine when they do finally by, by C.

Nathan:

C.

Nathan:

Peniston which is the second to last one is a, That also probably the

Nathan:

highlight, but the whole movie, there's this legend of, of doing ABBA, right?

Bee:

Yeah.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

You are the, it is the, the greatest performance of all time you, and I thought

Nathan:

that final performance Underwhelmed.

Nathan:

I really do.

Nathan:

And maybe it's because we went from a trio down to a twosome.

Nathan:

You don't tear a stamp.

Nathan:

The, the, the movie, the performances are highlighted in the, in the

Nathan:

desert and the song finally by C.

Nathan:

C.

Nathan:

Penniston, that last song by ABBA.

Nathan:

I mean, if you're going to do ABBA, it has to be the greatest.

Nathan:

It's been built up as the greatest drag performance of all time.

Nathan:

And I'm sorry, that last song.

Nathan:

Was, was the, the lip syncing was not all the way there.

Nathan:

Wow, Nathan, let

Bee:

your inner judge come out, jeez.

Nathan:

I'm, hey, I'm just being, I'm being honest here.

Nathan:

I, I thought, I thought the other performances were better.

Nathan:

were top notch, and this last one was not the best of all of them.

Sam:

I can see what you mean there, although I was so, like,

Sam:

I, I, it didn't bother me as much.

Sam:

I enjoyed it just because of the, like, where the characters were and,

Sam:

like, what was happening, and so I was in good spirits, and so that,

Sam:

like, Yes, I don't think it was the best dance number in the movie, but

Sam:

like, I was in a happy place where I was like, Hey, good time, you know.

Sam:

But I know what you mean though.

Rob:

Yeah, I understand.

Rob:

Yeah.

Rob:

I was distracted by all the shiny and the, and the sun working the the lighting.

Bee:

I was also.

Nathan:

Where was that sun pointing at?

Nathan:

That sun's like.

Bee:

He's laughing, Nathan.

Bee:

He doesn't know anything about

Nathan:

lighting.

Nathan:

He knows nothing about lighting.

Bee:

No, he's a kid.

Bee:

He's like by defunct.

Bee:

I'd be like,

Nathan:

just point the light straight.

Nathan:

Cause they're not really moving that much, but he's just like,

Bee:

he's dancing.

Bee:

I do think I, I don't.

Bee:

I don't mind the opening at all.

Bee:

I don't mind the song at all.

Bee:

I think Terrence Sampling is very glamorous and statuesque.

Bee:

I do think it's the opening to every drag movie ever is to

Bee:

open with them on the stage.

Bee:

But you know, I don't mind with it, with a

Nathan:

number.

Nathan:

I just thought the number was just so low energy.

Nathan:

And I don't like the song.

Nathan:

I'm sorry.

Nathan:

I

Rob:

don't even

Nathan:

remember

Rob:

the opening.

Nathan:

It's forgettable.

Nathan:

That's why.

Rob:

To be perfectly honest.

Rob:

I've never

Nathan:

been to, I've never been to, I've never been to me or something like that.

Nathan:

I don't know what it is.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Oh,

Nathan:

Bend a Paradise, but Never Been to Me sung by Charlene Oliver.

Nathan:

I hated that song so much.

Nathan:

Anyways.

Nathan:

It's like 70s, like adult contemporary schlock.

Nathan:

I don't know.

Nathan:

Anyways I don't know if I have any more notes.

Bee:

Tell us how you really

Rob:

felt about that opening.

Bee:

Yeah, it was interesting to go back into sort of like a time capsule

Bee:

of drag makeup and drag costuming and just, you know, it was just very of

Bee:

a time and hated it was, you know.

Bee:

Which is kind of fun.

Bee:

The makeup was so great.

Bee:

Did

Nathan:

you guys see the references to Divine, you know,

Nathan:

the, the triangle eyebrows?

Nathan:

Which now we have

Bee:

like Trixie Mattel does those sort of eyes too, you know.

Bee:

I

Nathan:

wonder how much of RuPaul and, because RuPaul was huge at this time.

Nathan:

And I, I don't really know.

Nathan:

I didn't really follow much of RuPaul's career, but.

Nathan:

Got a cameo in

Bee:

Too Wong Fu.

Nathan:

Okay.

Nathan:

See, I haven't seen it yet, but I, I, I gotta imagine, I mean,

Nathan:

RuPaul, that's was huge at this time, or getting big at this time.

Nathan:

Mm-Hmm.

Nathan:

. So I, I, I don't know if there was an influence from that, so I don't know.

Nathan:

I don't have much, those are most of my notes.

Nathan:

Mm-Hmm.

Nathan:

. Yeah.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Okay.

Nathan:

Yeah, I liked it.

Bee:

I think it's a good movie.

Bee:

I think it's, it's.

Bee:

It's an easy watch

Bee:

I think, you know, and I,

Bee:

yeah, for the most part it's got such a, a happy buoyant ending that

Bee:

I think, and, and enough fluff in the middle that it doesn't it doesn't

Bee:

feel like too, too heavy, you know?

Sam:

It has a good heart, like it's hard to dislike it because it's like

Sam:

a warm hearted, you know what I mean?

Sam:

Like it's, it's despite some short, shortcomings, it's warm hearted.

Sam:

It's like spirit is like in the right place.

Sam:

You know what I mean?

Sam:

Like it's, it's just, it's a fun, it's fun.

Sam:

It's fun to watch.

Nathan:

I agree.

Nathan:

That was my, actually my last note that it's not completely

Nathan:

successful, but the heart is in the right place with this movie.

Bee:

Yeah.

Rob:

Yeah.

Rob:

It didn't linger too much on the hard parts.

Rob:

No.

Rob:

Yeah.

Rob:

Which I think

Bee:

to your point earlier, the, the piece with Guy Pearce when he's getting

Bee:

beat that for me is really hard to watch, but how the trio sort of wrapped

Bee:

their arms around him, despite what he's done, I think it's, it's great.

Rob:

And despite how annoyed they've been throughout the entire trip.

Bee:

Well, yeah.

Bee:

Despite deadnaming poor Bernadette all the time.

Bee:

I actually liked,

Sam:

really like Guy Pearce, like I know his scenes are kind of like, he's sort

Sam:

of in the background after that incident in some scenes, but he's very quiet for a

Sam:

while and you can tell that he's kind of, to me, he's like processing what happened.

Sam:

He's been affected and I thought his performance was like, I thought

Sam:

that was really good acting there.

Sam:

Yeah.

Bee:

Everybody brings their A game.

Nathan:

I want to say one last thing, then we'll take a break.

Nathan:

I wish I had this sound clip because I laughed so hard, but it took me

Nathan:

about 10 seconds to get the joke.

Nathan:

And this is after the tow truck brings them back and there's a dog.

Nathan:

That Bernadette goes up to and Bernadette says, What a nice dog.

Nathan:

What's its name?

Nathan:

Herpes.

Nathan:

And the owner says, Herpes.

Nathan:

If she's good, she'll heal.

Nathan:

Now, I don't know about you, but this joke did take me 10 seconds.

Nathan:

And then I'm like, I'm thinking about something.

Nathan:

Oh,

Bee:

yeah, I mean, this is a funny movie.

Bee:

There's some really great, sharp quips from people who are just not afraid.

Bee:

They know each other very well.

Bee:

And they are they're like family in their banter.

Rob:

Oh, Terrence Stamp, I feel, had the best.

Rob:

Like, oh, yeah, percent.

Rob:

Oh, my God.

Rob:

Especially in that bar when it's like, oh, we don't like your kind here.

Rob:

And she and he, You know, there's, she just turns around and says the whole,

Rob:

you know, actually you played the clip of it near the beginning of that, that was,

Nathan:

that was one of the greatest burns in cinema history.

Nathan:

And it just is, I, and I'm just can't believe I've gone this late in life.

Nathan:

Not knowing about it until now.

Nathan:

I

Sam:

feel like Terrence Stamp like had the greatest, and I'll like put this in

Sam:

quotations, but like his performance, he had the greatest like resting bitch face.

Sam:

You know what I mean?

Sam:

He was always so like, I just love how he was like, Oh, these young idiots.

Sam:

Yeah,

Rob:

exactly.

Rob:

Yeah.

Rob:

The other thing of it was, is that like I remember correctly,

Rob:

Terrence Stamp had dressed up in drag on his own and was like, Oh,

Rob:

I, I, I, I look pretty beautiful.

Rob:

And from that, but from that point on, they never, never let him see

Rob:

the dailies on how he was looking.

Rob:

And the director had told, told the the makeup artist not to

Rob:

make him look beautiful, to make him look a little rugged.

Rob:

And, and when, when they've, he finally got to see the full cut

Rob:

of the movie, the makeup person apologized and was like, I'm so sorry.

Rob:

This is what I was told to do.

Rob:

Wow.

Rob:

Was he, was he upset?

Rob:

I don't recall.

Rob:

Interesting.

Rob:

I read a lot of trivia, like after watching the movie.

Rob:

So yeah, it's kind of filled.

Rob:

Oh, that's

Bee:

interesting.

Bee:

Cause I think Bernadette is such a graceful character.

Bee:

Yeah.

Bee:

Carries herself so well, but she is sharp as a dagger.

Bee:

And I appreciate that humor has become such a life raft for this.

Rob:

Yeah.

Rob:

I mean, I love the turnaround in that scene where it's like,

Rob:

Oh, we don't like your kind.

Rob:

And then, you know, Terrence makes the quip.

Rob:

And then next time you see that character, they're drinking together.

Bee:

Yeah.

Rob:

You know, having a little drinking contest.

Rob:

All those moments of

Sam:

unpredictable brevity, like where it's like, you think it's

Sam:

going to get so dark and you're like, I don't know if I can, can like,

Sam:

I'm really nervous to watch this.

Sam:

And then alleviates with Effective comedy.

Sam:

It does not diminish the terror.

Sam:

Like it just like they, they balance.

Sam:

That's was they pulled some impressive storytelling off there.

Sam:

I think

Nathan:

not only are they drinking together, but it's reminiscent of a

Nathan:

certain scene from a movie that B has not watched Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Bee:

There's drinking in Indiana Jones.

Bee:

No.

Nathan:

You know what I'm talking about, Sam.

Nathan:

It's a fragile constitution.

Nathan:

They're like drinking shots together and it's just all I can think of.

Nathan:

No, no more spoilers.

Nathan:

Everybody

Bee:

be quiet.

Bee:

This girl has not been

Nathan:

raised in the lost dark.

Nathan:

I don't know how that's

Bee:

possible.

Bee:

Your faithful movie maven has seen zero.

Bee:

I won't go into

Sam:

any details to say I would love to drink shots, but personally

Sam:

I prefer the blood of Kali.

Sam:

But that's it, yeah.

Rob:

I, I, I personally only just this year watched all

Rob:

of the Indiana Jones movies.

Rob:

Okay.

Bee:

Representation, Rob, you've probably not seen Indy.

Rob:

It was homework for me.

Rob:

So,

Bee:

well, it will be for me too.

Bee:

This was good movie, good movie.

Bee:

Go watch it.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

We're, let's take a quick break here and we'll come back.

Nathan:

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Nathan:

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Nathan:

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Nathan:

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Nathan:

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Nathan:

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Nathan:

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Nathan:

Okay, let's come back with our decisions on whether the Avengers of Priscilla,

Nathan:

Queen of the Desert, is going to be saved or purged out into the fiery apocalypse.

Sam:

Did you say purged like Arnold Schwarzenegger for a second?

Sam:

Are you really purged?

Sam:

Get up, get up, get up.

Sam:

You're just standing there to leave.

Sam:

Where's it going?

Sam:

What's going on here?

Sam:

Who

Sam:

is your daddy and what does he do?

Sam:

Who's your daddy and what does he do?

Nathan:

Okay.

Nathan:

So Rob, I don't know if you've been briefed on this, but every movie that

Nathan:

we review on our show, we have to decide whether it's going to be saved or not.

Nathan:

And if it's not saved, every single print of this movie is blown into pieces

Nathan:

and nobody will ever watch it again for the rest of time, pretty much.

Nathan:

Yeah, you briefed me.

Nathan:

There are stakes.

Nathan:

You've been briefly briefed.

Nathan:

You briefed me on a

Rob:

lot of things.

Rob:

Okay, I

Nathan:

gave you a lot of information, except for, except

Nathan:

for if it's video or not.

Nathan:

Yeah,

Rob:

you gave me like, you know, Oh, questions we might ask you about,

Rob:

like, you know, what was your, what was the first movie you saw in theaters?

Rob:

I

Nathan:

did forget all

Rob:

of that.

Rob:

And what movie set me into being a cinephile and

Nathan:

yeah, and all the things I forgot to ask you, I might tack

Nathan:

that tack that on at the end it will put it in the beginning.

Nathan:

I may or may not

Rob:

have been like trying to think about that really hard, but you know, it's okay.

Nathan:

No, we're, we're going to get to it.

Nathan:

We're going to get to it.

Nathan:

I am so like, yeah, Unprofessional out of sorts tonight, but please, you're

Rob:

on my podcast.

Rob:

You know how that was like,

Nathan:

exceptionally unprofessional.

Nathan:

Let's get to our decisions here.

Nathan:

So B, what say you is.

Nathan:

Priscilla saved or not?

Bee:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Just a simple.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

So I'm also going to say yes, because I think it's good that we have

Nathan:

movies that are, that are about this community, but are also just, It's

Nathan:

about joy and not about, you know, drama and, and what am I trying to say?

Nathan:

But

Sam:

not just about deserts and snowy mountains.

Nathan:

No, but like, this is, this is, yeah, exactly.

Nathan:

But this, this is, this is, this is, this is.

Nathan:

It's a relatively joyful movie, and I'm glad that, you know, I look at

Nathan:

all the movies that are in our vault, and there's a lot of depressing films.

Bee:

Yeah, that's your fault.

Nathan:

It's, yeah, cause it's,

Nathan:

and you know, this is just something that's fun and colorful

Nathan:

and we need some of that.

Nathan:

In our vault.

Nathan:

So yes, I say yes,

Sam:

I would have to say yes too.

Sam:

And it's because I have a thing for like road movies.

Sam:

I love travel movies.

Sam:

I love quest movies.

Sam:

And I think this is a very unique one that I had no expectations, but

Sam:

it was very different, a lot better than what I thought, even though I

Sam:

like had barely formed a thought, but like, I would include it because I

Sam:

just, I found the movie a lot of fun.

Sam:

And I liked the, you know, adventure aspect of it in the sense that they

Sam:

were like, and I thought it was epic.

Sam:

We, I know we didn't mention that when they get to their final,

Sam:

like, place in the canyon with the lookout over the cliffs, but

Sam:

like, Oh yeah, that was amazing.

Sam:

How did we not talk

Bee:

about that?

Sam:

Yeah, like they, that was, that was a dream.

Bee:

Not just to talk about the blow up kite, but

Sam:

also the cart.

Sam:

Yes.

Sam:

I'm, I'm all about driving long miles to get to like vistas and

Sam:

like, I just thought this is a really unique character journey.

Sam:

So I would include, include that because it's a worthy road picture like easily

Sam:

in the top, like 20 road pictures for me.

Sam:

So it's, it's, I got to put it in.

Sam:

Yeah.

Bee:

Sam, I can't kick it

Sam:

out.

Bee:

They're like works of art on the top of those rocks.

Bee:

It's, it's incredible.

Sam:

That's amazing.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

I'm going to build a Walmart there.

Sam:

No, I'm just kidding.

Sam:

You got any water?

Sam:

You got any food?

Sam:

You got to go to get a Subway sandwich.

Sam:

There's nobody's there.

Sam:

You know, it's good.

Sam:

Or a Pizza Hut pizza.

Sam:

Pizza Hut.

Sam:

Yeah, absolutely.

Sam:

I'm down.

Nathan:

And, rob, what would you say if it were true?

Nathan:

Oh,

Rob:

I would purge it.

Bee:

Yeah.

Rob:

You'd purge it?

Rob:

Yeah, I'd purge it.

Rob:

I'm kidding.

Rob:

No.

Rob:

No, save the movie.

Rob:

Are you kidding me?

Rob:

All right.

Rob:

Yep.

Sam:

I totally believe you.

Sam:

You must be a good actor.

Sam:

Someone hire

Sam:

him.

Sam:

Come on.

Sam:

That was

Rob:

not what you mean.

Rob:

But yeah, no, I would absolutely save it.

Rob:

I think even, Even though some of the stuff is certainly dated, like as far as,

Rob:

you know, terminology and whatnot I think it really does a good job of encapsulating

Rob:

how it is to be in this community.

Rob:

You know, like, yeah, they use the term transsexual and crossdresser instead

Rob:

of, you know, now we would say more, you know, transgender and And, and,

Rob:

you know, whatnot, but, you know, it still illustrates just the same things

Rob:

that we're still dealing with today.

Rob:

With, you know, homophobia and dead naming and transphobia.

Rob:

And I, I think it really does a good job of like shedding a light on that

Rob:

and also shedding a light on like, Like I was saying earlier about,

Rob:

you know, children's perspective.

Rob:

Yes, alongside all of, you know, sure.

Rob:

Alongside with all the happy go lucky moments and the, you know, the wonderful

Rob:

performances and stuff, the real nitty gritty stuff I feel is important.

Rob:

To carry on, to like, to look back on and go, okay, we, have we learned?

Rob:

Have we progressed from this kind of attitude?

Bee:

Yeah, that's a great point.

Bee:

All right, good.

Bee:

Yay, we get to watch it again after the apocalypse.

Nathan:

All right, so now we are going to get to our movie pairings.

Nathan:

Hello, welcome to Masterpiece Video.

Nathan:

How may I help you this afternoon, sir?

Nathan:

I'm looking for a copy of eight and a half.

Nathan:

Is that a new release, sir?

Nathan:

No, it's the classic Italian film.

Nathan:

Yes, sir.

Nathan:

Just check that on the computer for you, sir.

Rob:

Hello!

Rob:

How are you young ladies this afternoon?

Rob:

May I help you find a particular

Rob:

masterpiece movie?

Rob:

No.

Rob:

Yes, here it is.

Rob:

Nine and a half weeks with Mickey Rourke.

Rob:

That would be in the erotic drama section.

Rob:

No, not nine and a half.

Rob:

Eight and a half.

Rob:

The Fellini film.

Bee:

How about this one?

Bee:

Get it.

Bee:

I'm sure it sucks.

Bee:

All these movies suck.

Bee:

We

Nathan:

are in movie pairings where we Pick a movie to accompany the adventures

Nathan:

of Priscilla Queen of the Desert if we were gonna have a double feature so I

Nathan:

think There are a lot of options for this but who would like to begin with this?

Nathan:

We're gonna go with the same order or Rob, you want to jump on?

Rob:

Now my recommendation is a little controversial only because of the,

Rob:

only because of the fact that the movie did come a year after this one

Rob:

and was largely thought of apparently as being a ripoff of The Adventures of

Rob:

Priscilla, and that would be Tuong Phu.

Bee:

I almost picked that one.

Bee:

I watched it today.

Rob:

But yeah, I would, I would, I would pair it with Tuong Phu.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Tuong Phu.

Nathan:

I, again, another one that I have never seen, and I get these two confused.

Nathan:

I've gotten these two confused for like 30 years.

Bee:

Patrick Swayze is great.

Bee:

Oh yeah.

Bee:

So is John Leguizamo.

Bee:

Everyone's great.

Bee:

Everyone's

Rob:

great in that movie.

Rob:

But I mean, they also, so.

Rob:

still also have like, more or less the same kind of struggles and

Rob:

through lines that, another road

Bee:

movie.

Rob:

Yes.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

So to Wong Fu is streaming on, I see prime video right now.

Nathan:

So, and you can rent it on VOD.

Nathan:

So

Bee:

those two are also just great.

Bee:

Like literally just great titles together.

Bee:

Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert and To Wong Fu.

Bee:

Thanks for everything.

Bee:

Julie Newmar.

Bee:

Yeah.

Bee:

Great.

Bee:

Great.

Nathan:

Catwoman.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

Good pick.

Bee:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Bea, I think you're next.

Bee:

Sure.

Bee:

I went for the, the friendship, the punching up, the not a victim, the

Bee:

road, I went for Thelma and Louise.

Bee:

It's a classic.

Bee:

I thought about that one.

Bee:

That's what I was,

Sam:

that's what I was

Bee:

contemplating.

Nathan:

Nah.

Nathan:

This is the first week where we decided not to share it ahead

Nathan:

of time, where our picks were.

Bee:

Controversial decision.

Bee:

Yeah, no, Thelma and Louise, if somehow Thelma and Louise hasn't crossed your TV

Bee:

screen yet, it's a joy to watch, but just like Adventures of Priscilla, it touches

Bee:

on moments of darkness and struggle, but it's buoyed by this friendship

Bee:

of these, of these two women and, and how they're able to overcome together.

Bee:

So.

Rob:

I will admit I've never

Sam:

seen

Rob:

it.

Bee:

It's great.

Sam:

It's great.

Sam:

Good movie.

Sam:

Great.

Sam:

I love it.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

Yeah.

Nathan:

And that is also on prime video and on freebie.

Nathan:

Showtime.

Nathan:

A lot of places.

Nathan:

What's

Bee:

the freebie?

Bee:

There's too much.

Bee:

We gotta stop

Nathan:

this freebie's actually.

Nathan:

Good.

Nathan:

It used to be the freebie.

Nathan:

Used to be I am IMDB tv.

Nathan:

Now it's, I see now it's, it's owned by Amazon,

Rob:

if I

Nathan:

recall correctly.

Rob:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Yeah, I think so.

Bee:

Yeah.

Bee:

It's so smelly.

Bee:

It's not even, okay.

Bee:

Alright.

Bee:

Alright.

Bee:

Yeah, there's

Nathan:

a lot of places the, there's too many right now.

Bee:

I do like to be

Rob:

or not to be

Bee:

so payback for my Segway joke.

Nathan:

I okay.

Nathan:

So I, I love my movie pairing guys.

Nathan:

I'm really, really proud of this one, Sam.

Nathan:

I hope I don't steal yours.

Nathan:

I don't know.

Nathan:

But the movie that I think makes.

Nathan:

Just an amazing double feature with The Adventures of

Nathan:

Priscilla Queen of the Desert.

Nathan:

It's also a road trip movie It also explores similar themes of familial

Nathan:

bonds Dealing with acceptance identity and your chosen family.

Nathan:

It also ends with a glorious song and dance number I'm talking about

Nathan:

2006's Woulda Missed Sunshine from directors Valerie Farris and

Nathan:

Jonathan Dayton, much like Priscilla.

Bee:

That is a cute double feature.

Nathan:

It's about a cross country road trip serves as a transformative

Nathan:

journey for the characters.

Nathan:

In Priscilla, there's the iconic kiss scene.

Nathan:

Bus, but in sunshine, a dysfunctional family piles into a VW bus and many

Nathan:

personal revelations bubble to the surface as the character struggle and grow.

Nathan:

Like Priscilla, Little Miss Sunshine emphasizes the importance

Nathan:

of being true to oneself and exemplified by the determination.

Nathan:

of the star of the film, a very young, but incredibly talented

Nathan:

Abigail Breslin, who is hell bent to participate in a beauty pageant despite

Nathan:

her non conventional appearance.

Nathan:

The supporting cast in this film is the Like top notch

Bee:

Alan Arkin.

Bee:

You

Nathan:

got Alan Arkin who plays her grandfather.

Bee:

Training her for the beauty pageant.

Nathan:

He steals every scene he's in.

Nathan:

He also got great performances from Steve, Steve Carell in what at the time

Nathan:

was a very against type role for him.

Nathan:

Tony Collette, who is always amazing.

Nathan:

Greg Kinnear, Paul Dano.

Nathan:

It's one of the funniest, but heartwarming films I've seen in the last 20 years.

Nathan:

And everyone should see this and it's it's on Hulu right

Nathan:

now and you can rent it on VOD.

Nathan:

So that is my pick.

Nathan:

It's

Rob:

funny because you technically just did a, a, a Kevin Bacon,

Rob:

you know, the bacon number thing

Rob:

with,

Rob:

with that choice, because you can connect the Little Miss

Rob:

Sunshine to Muriel's Wedding.

Rob:

Muriel's Wedding stars Toni Collette.

Rob:

You can connect Toni Collette to Bill Hunter.

Rob:

Yeah, Little Miss Sunshine.

Bee:

Oh, that's good.

Bee:

That's awesome.

Rob:

Sorry,

Sam:

Sam.

Sam:

No, I, I really, I I'm, I'm scrolling.

Sam:

I don't know what to do.

Sam:

Thelma and Louise was like, absolutely.

Sam:

Oh, are we, are we not allowed to say the same?

Sam:

We're not.

Sam:

Can I, I can't.

Sam:

Just,

Nathan:

just do Rambo three.

Nathan:

Just say it.

Nathan:

You could go with the

Rob:

matrix.

Rob:

Yes, Rambo three, the matrix starting, you know, has Hugo weaving.

Rob:

It has some underlying LGBTQ themes.

Rob:

You know

Sam:

what?

Sam:

I thank you very much.

Sam:

I'm going to go with the matrix.

Bee:

But specifically resurrections right now.

Sam:

Yeah, definitely.

Sam:

Definitely the first one highly entertaining, lots of travel.

Sam:

And I like the characters and yeah, also I do think

Bee:

there's a train.

Sam:

There's a train.

Sam:

There is movement.

Sam:

And I do think Thelma and Louise is, is incredible.

Sam:

So definitely the

Nathan:

Wachowskis also did bound.

Sam:

That's true.

Sam:

I don't remember.

Sam:

I don't remember it as well, though.

Sam:

No, no.

Sam:

I remember it, but like.

Bee:

Bound is a great movie, but not the vibe.

Bee:

I can't get all.

Sam:

I may have seen bound with herbal remedies.

Sam:

Possibly involved.

Sam:

So like, I remember enjoying it, but my like memory is faded and this is,

Sam:

I was like 19, it was a while ago.

Sam:

So

Sam:

every

Sam:

movie ever made, they're all incredible.

Sam:

I will

Sam:

now be leaving back to the frame cat.

Sam:

This is my final bracket.

Sam:

No, just kidding.

Nathan:

She can say frame

Sam:

back to the frame.

Nathan:

The matrix.

Nathan:

Is on Netflix right now.

Nathan:

So no excuse not to watch it.

Nathan:

If you have not,

Bee:

These are on Netflix right now.

Bee:

That's fun.

Nathan:

Okay.

Nathan:

And all of our movie pairings and recommendations you can find

Nathan:

on our letterbox list, which is I'll put a link in the show

Nathan:

notes, all the movies that are.

Nathan:

Have our, our in our vault also is in the letterbox list,

Nathan:

which you can check out too.

Nathan:

So there you have it.

Nathan:

What's a letterbox?

Nathan:

What is a letterbox?

Nathan:

Well, it's like good reads, but for

Bee:

movies,

Nathan:

and you can, it's like

Rob:

a, what?

Bee:

It's like good reads, but for movies.

Bee:

Yeah.

Rob:

Okay.

Rob:

You can cut that out.

Rob:

I was just kidding.

Bee:

All

Nathan:

right.

Nathan:

Okay.

Nathan:

So that is I think that's going to wrap it up, Rob, thank you so much for

Nathan:

joining us this evening on this episode.

Nathan:

Can you tell our audience again where people can find you?

Rob:

Typically in my home.

Rob:

No never leave.

Rob:

No no, I can be found on, on Twitch, Twitter.

Rob:

Yeah, I'm also not going to call it X Instagram, all the various social

Rob:

media platforms under the, the Twitter.

Rob:

God, under the use under God.

Rob:

Yes, under God.

Rob:

No, under the username hybrid underscore spider.

Rob:

Spider is with a Y because I'm edgy like that.

Rob:

It was it was a high school pen name.

Rob:

Sure.

Nathan:

But yeah, it's okay if I if I absolutely put that in the show notes.

Nathan:

Sure.

Nathan:

Your handles.

Nathan:

Okay.

Nathan:

Yeah, absolutely.

Nathan:

Great.

Nathan:

Great.

Nathan:

Wonderful.

Nathan:

Well, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and on on our film tonight.

Nathan:

And yeah, so that is our show this week.

Nathan:

Back to the frame rate is part of the Western media podcast network.

Nathan:

We also wish to thank Brian Ellsworth for our show.

Nathan:

Opening on behalf of all of us.

Nathan:

We bid you farewell from the fall shelter.

Nathan:

Your presence in our underground sanctuary is truly appreciated.

Nathan:

We're sorry.

Nathan:

You cannot join us, but we want to express our gratitude for your company.

Nathan:

If you are finding solace in our discussions, we kindly ask that you

Nathan:

please subscribe and leave a rating and review, you can find more episodes of

Nathan:

this podcast on back to the frame rate.

Nathan:

com and our handle on our socials is back frame rate.

Nathan:

Your support is the beacon of light that brightens our confined space.

Nathan:

Head on over to Apple podcast, Spotify, or whichever portal connects you to

Nathan:

our broadcast and share your thoughts until we emerge from the fallout.

Nathan:

Stay with us.

Nathan:

Keep hope alive and keep those reviews coming.

Nathan:

This is the end of our transmission.

Nathan:

Back to the frame rate.

Nathan:

Signing off.

Nathan:

I want you to know it's over.

Nathan:

Well,

Nathan:

but.

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Preserving Our Civilization One MOVIE At A Time
Back to the Frame Rate is a movie discussion podcast where filmmakers, actors, and passionate wannabes come together to celebrate the art of cinema. From beloved popcorn flicks of the '80s, '90s and today, to timeless classics and arthouse gems we cover it all. But we’re not just here to talk movies — we’re here to save them!

In a world facing imminent asteroid-induced doom (think Armageddon without the happy ending), we’ve built a fallout shelter for the greatest films of all time. With only enough space for a carefully curated vault of 35mm and 70mm reels, the stakes couldn’t be higher. We comb through the likes of AFI’s 100, Sight & Sound’s Greats, and IMDB’s Top 250 to decide which films are worthy of saving — and which will be purged forever.

Join hosts Nathan Suher, Sam Coale, and Briana (Bee) Butterworth as they passionately debate cinema’s survival, ensuring the future of storytelling one reel at a time. Sadly, the space is tight, just enough for us and our cherished 35mm and 70mm film reels. To friends, family, and old acquaintances left in the cinematic dust, our apologies. But fret not, for we vow to emerge when Earth is safe for repopulation. We've preserved the very soul of civilization, ensuring a future where storytelling thrives. Back to the Frame Rate, saving the world one reel at a time!
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