Tender Mercies (1983) / Duv-All In #2 / Country Title or Vinyl game
This week, we dive deep into the cinematic gem that is 'Tender Mercies', a film that snagged Robert Duvall an Academy Award for Best Actor back in '83. Joined by our awesome guest, actor Paul Kandarian, we showered this flick with the praise it deserves, discussing its subtle storytelling and rich character development. Duvall's portrayal of Mac Sledge is nothing short of masterful, bringing a raw, authentic energy to a character seeking redemption and a second chance. We dissected the film's themes of love, loss, and the beauty of second chances, all wrapped in a beautifully understated package that feels like a warm hug. So, grab your favorite snack, kick back, and join us as we celebrate this classic and explore what makes it one of Duvall's finest performances!
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In the dying embers of human existence.
Speaker A:As the asteroid, a behemoth the size of Texas, hurtled relentlessly toward Earth, the world braces for an apocalyptic end.
Speaker A:Deep beneath the bunker, a refuge plunges into the bowels of the earth.
Speaker A:Here the chosen gather their purpose clear to preserve the very soul of our civilization.
Speaker A:The 35 and 70 millimeter prints that encapsulate the magic, the emotion and the dreams of generations past.
Speaker A:These masterpieces, each frame a testament to the human spirit, are carefully cataloged and cradled in the cavernous confines of the bunker.
Speaker A:Perhaps there was room for more, for.
Speaker B:Friends and family yearning for salvation.
Speaker A:But sacrifices must be made.
Speaker A:The movie nerds stand united, the keepers of a flame, promising a future where the art of storytelling endures, transcending the boundaries of time and space.
Speaker B:God help us all.
Speaker C:Welcome to Back to the Frame Rate, part of the Western Media Podcast Network.
Speaker C:In this cinematic crusade, we journey through films on VOD and streaming platforms, deciding their fate.
Speaker C:Salvation in our vault of legends or eternal banishment in the coming asteroid apocalypse.
Speaker C:You can find all of our episodes of our show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app.
Speaker C:Or find us on social media at Back to the Frame Rate.
Speaker C:I am Nathan Saddle Steel Shore, and accompanying me as always, is Sam Six String Cole.
Speaker C:And joining us tonight is our guest and returning champion after several years, Paul Killer Keys Candarian.
Speaker C:How are you, Paul?
Speaker B:Pretty good.
Speaker B:How are you guys doing?
Speaker C:Good and very good.
Speaker C:And same.
Speaker B:The only one without headphones.
Speaker B:I feel naked.
Speaker B:Well, I am naked.
Speaker B:You don't need to know that, but.
Speaker C:Well, there is video.
Speaker C:Did you just find this out now?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Paul, I have to say, you're looking especially handsome and well fit.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker A:I hope I don't make you feel uncomfortable, but I find you strangely attractive at the moment.
Speaker B:Well, yeah, that might make a little bit uncomfortable.
Speaker B:But also flattered.
Speaker B:Somewhat flattered.
Speaker C:It's been a few years.
Speaker C: ow, I think toward the end of: Speaker C:And I'm trying to remember.
Speaker C:I do not do the research on these things.
Speaker C:Was it either Bad Santa or Gremlins or Bad Santa?
Speaker B:Gremlins?
Speaker B:I don't remember.
Speaker A:But I do remember that.
Speaker A:That recording.
Speaker A:Because I wasn't there when you were there, Paul, but I think I sent in a.
Speaker A:Like a audio or something.
Speaker B:Yeah, I forgot who was there.
Speaker B:Was Ellie there then?
Speaker B:I can't.
Speaker C:Ellie was.
Speaker C:Ellie was with us.
Speaker C:And B, me.
Speaker C:Yeah, maybe.
Speaker C:I don't remember.
Speaker C:Who can remember those three years ago?
Speaker C:Wasn't the before times.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Anyway, so we.
Speaker C:I'm glad you're here, Paul.
Speaker C:You know, we'll get into the show for a moment, but to our possible new listeners, just a little brief introduction of who you are, what you do are.
Speaker C:You know, maybe you do some acting.
Speaker C:Anything you want to mention about your world?
Speaker B:Yeah, the nut.
Speaker B:The nutshell is I got into acting late when I was in my 50s, and I'm 72 now, and now it's all I do because I just came to the game late but found out that I loved it.
Speaker B:I should have been doing it all along.
Speaker B:And knock wood, I'm working all the time.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:Doing films a lot, commercials, you name it.
Speaker B:I just did a live performance today up in Newton for a company that does compliance bias training for big companies.
Speaker B:So you put on a sketch, and I'm usually the asshole, white, middle manager kind of guy, not knowing how to deal with employees.
Speaker B:And then they grill us after, like, why'd you do this?
Speaker B:Why'd you do that?
Speaker B:I mean, it's fun.
Speaker B:It's a lot of fun.
Speaker B:It puts you on the spot because you got to ad lib a lot of stuff.
Speaker B:I mean, it's scripted, but then you ad lib, but stuff like that.
Speaker B:I just do just about everything because I got into it late.
Speaker B:I love every minute of it.
Speaker B:So I very seldom turn jobs down.
Speaker B:Enlisted Sam's, and then I say no,.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker A:I offered you a big role in.
Speaker A:In Ice Cold King, man, a big epic about people freezing in the state of Rhode island and the big blizzard.
Speaker A:And I offered you the paycheck, and you said.
Speaker A:And you said no.
Speaker A:And I said, why?
Speaker A:And you said, look, Sam, I don't mean to be rude, but I don't like you and I don't like your face.
Speaker A:And so I said, okay, it's fine with me.
Speaker B:We're honest.
Speaker B:If nothing else, it's got to be.
Speaker A:Honest in this business.
Speaker A:You know, it's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's straightforward.
Speaker A:You know, it's just.
Speaker A:We got to survive.
Speaker B:It's refreshing.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker B:I would kill.
Speaker B:I would kill to get back in Westport, though.
Speaker B:I love filming in Westport.
Speaker B:That was fun.
Speaker A:That was awesome.
Speaker A:Speaking of that little mark action over there on the wall.
Speaker B:Oh, nice.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, I loved.
Speaker C:I love that movie, Sam.
Speaker C:I remember that.
Speaker C:Yeah, you had a great.
Speaker C:You had a great premiere screening for the Double.
Speaker C:That and Bad Drones.
Speaker A:That was fun.
Speaker A:That was a good time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Right in the dead center of COVID But People still showed up.
Speaker C:That was not.
Speaker C:Well, Paul, we're grateful that you're joining us tonight for this film.
Speaker C: are going to be talking about: Speaker C:This is part of our Robert Duvall retrospective that we're doing this spring.
Speaker C:And this is.
Speaker C:This has been a lot of fun.
Speaker C:I've actually been watching a couple of Robert Duvall movies over the past month.
Speaker C:I caught up also with the Great Santini a couple weeks ago because that was actually on our list of movies at one time.
Speaker C:We actually swapped it out for our first movie.
Speaker C:But yeah.
Speaker C:So I'm just gonna go over kind of what we're gonna be doing tonight.
Speaker C:We are gonna do our review.
Speaker C:We are going to give our thoughts, final thoughts in this, and we're gonna vote on whether this movie should be saved or purged into.
Speaker C:We're gonna put in a vault or purge it out.
Speaker C:And we have a little game that we're gonna play later tonight that I haven't really shared with Sam and Paul.
Speaker C:Be.
Speaker C:I'm going to spring that on them a little bit later, but it's gonna be a lot of fun, so stick around for that afterwards.
Speaker C:And yeah, so I think it's gonna be a fun show tonight.
Speaker C:So let's get into the discussion of this, Sam.
Speaker C:I see that.
Speaker C:Do you have some movie facts for Tender Mercies you want to talk about?
Speaker A:Oh, we're doing that again.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker A:Wikipedia.
Speaker C:Looks like I me.
Speaker C:Somebody typed this in here.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker A: I thought we ended that in: Speaker A:We don't have.
Speaker C:We don't have to.
Speaker C:I thought maybe.
Speaker C:It looks like.
Speaker C:Did you.
Speaker C:Didn't you just type this in here?
Speaker A:I. I did because I.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:I thought it was.
Speaker A:I was supposed to do it, so I put it back in, but I deleted.
Speaker A:I deleted it because I didn't want to incur your obsessive wrath.
Speaker C:You know, we don't have to, but.
Speaker C:Yeah, since.
Speaker C:Since now.
Speaker A:Taskmaster Nathan.
Speaker A: Tender Mercies is a: Speaker A:Bruce, Bruce Beresford, and written by Horton Foote or Footay.
Speaker C:I think it's Foot.
Speaker B:I think it's Foot.
Speaker A:It's Horton Foot.
Speaker A:And it stars Robert Duvall, singer, songwriter Max Sledge, not to be confused with a porn star of the same name.
Speaker A:I stole that joke from you, Paul.
Speaker A:I'm sorry.
Speaker A:I know a former country music star whose career and relationship with his ex wife and daughter were wrecked by alcoholism and a couple things this, if I'm not mistaken, did not.
Speaker A:Robert Duvall won his one Academy Award from this film.
Speaker A:Is that correct?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Yes, yes.
Speaker A:Cinematographer Russell Boyd, who is awesome.
Speaker A:I mean, he's, he's, he's shot like a lot of really good films.
Speaker A:The Man From Hong Kong.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:My.
Speaker A:One of my favorite movies ever, Picnic at Hanging Rock, directed by Peter Warehouse.
Speaker A:For me, that's like the template of, like, mystery.
Speaker C:He did a lot with Peter Weir also.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And Gallipoli.
Speaker B:Oh my God.
Speaker A:He did the Year of Living Dangerously too.
Speaker A:That's like my favorite movie.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And you haven't even brought up Crocodile Dundee 1 and 2 yet, Sam.
Speaker C:I'm surprised.
Speaker A:Well, Crocodile Dundee 2 is incredible.
Speaker A:No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker A:The first one's a lot better.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker A:But put it this way.
Speaker A:If Crocodile Dundee 2 was on a.
Speaker A:Was on TV in a hotel room, I would watch it.
Speaker C:If it was on TV right now, would you walk away from the podcast?
Speaker C:That's the real question.
Speaker A:Yes, but with hesitation.
Speaker A:And I'd feel a lot of guilt afterward.
Speaker A:In the moment, I'd be like, haha, look at me, I'm a rebel.
Speaker A:Then I'd be like, oh, man, I let down to fine two fine standing people.
Speaker A:And then I would.
Speaker A:Then I would profusely apologize afterwards and beg Paul to be in one of his movies and he'd be like, nope, nope, I told you.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, you could have just tivoed it.
Speaker B:Did they still tivo whatever that.
Speaker B:What did they used to use?
Speaker A:I think they do.
Speaker A:Or do they.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:They advertised it in War of the Worlds when Dakota Fanning mentioned it, but that was 20 years ago.
Speaker B:Yeah, I don't think they do it anymore.
Speaker C:You can just record off your service now.
Speaker C:It's not really.
Speaker C:I had a TiVo for a long time and there's a great scene in the new Naked Gun movie, I think, where.
Speaker C:I think when you.
Speaker C:Where Leah, Liam Neeson, gets in a fight with Pam Anderson, where she plugs it into the network and when you do that, does a system.
Speaker C:Did a system reset and he went off on.
Speaker C:On all the episodes of.
Speaker C:Was it Buffy or Angel that he was watching and erased everything.
Speaker C:It's one of the funniest moments about TiVo in a movie ever.
Speaker C:So it's in the fact that's Liam Neeson in his deadpan delivery going off about Buffy.
Speaker C:It's hysterical.
Speaker B:Was that movie any good?
Speaker B:I mean, it looked like it was going to be terrible.
Speaker B:Was it good?
Speaker C:It was better than I thought.
Speaker C:It was going to be really.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Better than, I'd say naked gun 33 and a third, for sure.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker B:Oh, you know, you'd be smirching Leslie Nielsen there.
Speaker B:But that's okay.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:It was funny.
Speaker A:But I. I'd have to watch it again because when I watched it, I was kind of stoned and I don't remember it that well.
Speaker B:So it's the best way to watch movies.
Speaker B:That's how I spent.
Speaker B:That's how I spent the seventies.
Speaker B:Oh, is it?
Speaker B:Quick aside the thing, I was doing LSD that night and that came on.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, Totally me up.
Speaker B:And to see Wilford Brimley, who's in this movie, turn into a spider.
Speaker B:It was just my guy.
Speaker B:Like, I had major panic attack because I thought it was just THC or mescaline.
Speaker B:Nope.
Speaker B:Turned out to be acid.
Speaker A:That is, of all the movies, you chose, like, the most terrifying.
Speaker A:Like, I saw that with, like, nothing in my system, and I was scared out of my mind.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:You must have felt for, like, weeks after that.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:Oh, man, I was.
Speaker B:I almost hospitalized myself.
Speaker B:It was that bad.
Speaker B:I get now I got to see it again because they.
Speaker B:They are.
Speaker B:They didn't come up with a documentary about it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And then there was like, a remake or, like a sequel that I didn't see or something.
Speaker A:And then I heard.
Speaker A:I mean, I. I kind of lost track, to be quite honest.
Speaker C: 'm actually a defender of the: Speaker C:I actually, it's the.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It gets a lot of hate because it didn't.
Speaker C:It didn't do the practical effects, but I actually kind of like the story of it.
Speaker C:It connects well with the John Carpenter film.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:But, yeah, I understand why people don't like it.
Speaker C:Apparently the story with that is they did do practical effects for it, but then they went back and put digital effects over it because they thought they just didn't like how the practical effects looked.
Speaker A:Interesting.
Speaker A:I. I haven't seen it, so I. I mean, I would like to watch it.
Speaker A:I. I don't have an opinion, but, like, I. I'm intrigued.
Speaker C:Yeah, we can talk a fine.
Speaker C:Because that's something that I think as a future retrospective, you know, we're talking about some of the summer movies.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker C:We want to do Sam and kind of finishing up, like, not as respected sequels.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:And that would be one of them, potentially, because we.
Speaker A:Anyways, I will say really quickly, I can't wait for Your opinion on Jaws, too?
Speaker A:That's one I have.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:I'll say.
Speaker A:That's one of the movies that, like, I enjoy, but I have no attachment to it, so, like, if you eviscerate it, I will be highly entertained.
Speaker A:I just can't.
Speaker A:I'm fascinated as to what you like.
Speaker A:Genuinely interested.
Speaker A:I'm not.
Speaker A:I'm not joking.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean, we'll get into it then.
Speaker C:Because I haven't seen Jaws, too, in probably in 20 years.
Speaker C:But I grew up with that movie.
Speaker C:I. I probably will still love it because I liked it.
Speaker C:It's entertaining.
Speaker A:It is entertaining.
Speaker B:Anyways, I don't know.
Speaker B:The shark kills everybody.
Speaker B:Come on.
Speaker B:Jesus.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:But I saw the play the Shark is Broken in New York when it was on the last day they showed it.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker B:A couple years ago.
Speaker A:That's so bad.
Speaker B:It was so good.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:It was great.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Anyway, JAWS 3D is the best one.
Speaker A:That film is just.
Speaker A:That's my number one.
Speaker B:I don't know you young people, I'm told.
Speaker B:Jesus, what are they going to do?
Speaker B:Make, you know, Stagecoach, the sequel, and put somebody who looks like John Wayne in it?
Speaker A:I've always said.
Speaker A:I've always said there should be a Driving Miss Daisy, too.
Speaker A:And it's just a static security shot of her grave.
Speaker A:And that's the whole movie for two hours.
Speaker B:That would be funny.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:I'm a firm believer there's sequels.
Speaker B:Every sequel has sucked except Godfather 2.
Speaker A:Godfather 2 is incredible.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:It's as good as one.
Speaker B:And then three came along and just like, what the was that?
Speaker B:That's actually the title.
Speaker A:Godfather 3.
Speaker A:What the was that?
Speaker B:Was that?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:It was a paycheck for Al Pacino.
Speaker B:That's what that was.
Speaker B:Like 19 alimonies to pay Robert.
Speaker C:And Robert Duvall wouldn't do it because they just wouldn't pay him.
Speaker B:Yeah, they paid.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:He said, you're paying Pacino.
Speaker B:You can pay me.
Speaker B:And they said, no.
Speaker B:So we'll get George Hamilton then.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:When Robert Duvall saw the check that was too small, he laughed in the exact same way he laughed in Apocalypse Now.
Speaker A:So he looked at the check and he went,.
Speaker B:Oh, the horror.
Speaker B:The horror.
Speaker B:Oh, my God, you guys.
Speaker B:Do you guys find yourself doing this?
Speaker B:I, I.
Speaker B:If somebody asked me a question, I answered them like a movie quote.
Speaker B:Because I think movie quotes apply to everything.
Speaker C:Sadly, Paul, I'm gonna do it all the time.
Speaker C:I'm in a world where most people don't get it, though.
Speaker C:But I'm gonna have to in my own head.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:But I do it anyway because it makes me feel good about myself.
Speaker B:I know something you don't know.
Speaker C:I like.
Speaker A:I like quoting the.
Speaker A:The Killer from Silence of the Lamb.
Speaker A:So they're like, sam, do you know Sally?
Speaker A:So and so when I'll go, oh, wait, is she a real big fat person?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:There's so many lines.
Speaker C:So why don't we.
Speaker C:Why don't we circle back to our show here?
Speaker B:What are we doing?
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:I think it kind of went over the plot synopsis already, and I did.
Speaker A:And I actually really enjoy movie facts.
Speaker A:I was just giving you a hard time.
Speaker A:I'm happy to do them.
Speaker A:I just forgot about that.
Speaker A:The last name of the guy, the pronunciation.
Speaker A:And it made me.
Speaker C:I loved it.
Speaker C:I loved it.
Speaker C:I loved it.
Speaker C: th of: Speaker C:I just will add into that.
Speaker C:And had a budget of between 7 and 8 million.
Speaker C:Upon its initial release, I think I see that it only made about $500,000.
Speaker C:So it really tanked, as you mentioned.
Speaker C:But over its lifetime, it made 8.4 million.
Speaker C:Somewhere in its.
Speaker C:It accrued that.
Speaker C:But I want to mention here, because I love doing.
Speaker C:We haven't done this in a while, Sam.
Speaker C:And like I said, it barely opened to any money at all.
Speaker C:And it ranked 15th out of 16th of films that weekend on March 4th.
Speaker C:And I haven't done this a while.
Speaker C:The top five of that week.
Speaker C: th,: Speaker C:We'll play a little game here for a moment here.
Speaker A:Oh, my God, I'm gonna fail this one.
Speaker C:This is not an easy one.
Speaker A: f it was Memorial Day weekend: Speaker C:But, yeah, this is this.
Speaker C:No, you guys won't get this.
Speaker C:But number five.
Speaker C:Number five.
Speaker C:I've never even heard of this movie.
Speaker C:Vigilante first.
Speaker C:In this first week.
Speaker C:Made 1.6 million.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Who.
Speaker B:Who's.
Speaker B:Who is that?
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:I didn't bother to look it up.
Speaker C:Number four was the.
Speaker C:Was the Lords of Discipline in its third week, made 1.7 million.
Speaker B:Jesus.
Speaker C:Anyone?
Speaker C:Now here we get to some bigger ones.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Number three.
Speaker C:In its 13th week.
Speaker C:This does not happen anymore.
Speaker C:Made 1.8 million.
Speaker C:Was 48 hours.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:And this guy Scarface was in there somewhere.
Speaker C:I thought, this is crazy.
Speaker C:Also in his 13th week at number two, made 2.3 million, was Gandhi.
Speaker C:And number one.
Speaker C:Any guesses?
Speaker B:Scarface.
Speaker C:And it's in his 12th week, Norma Ray no, no.
Speaker C:4.3 Million was Tootsie.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, yeah, it is good.
Speaker C:But like, this, this.
Speaker B:They were all good.
Speaker C:I never would have gotten any of these, actually.
Speaker B:I thought I read somewhere that Tender Mercies wasn't doing well because of some other movie.
Speaker B:It came up, and then Willie Nelson said, you know, it was a really good movie.
Speaker B:He offered to back it.
Speaker B:And they didn't see the wisdom of that because it's too stupid to realize Willie Nelson could boost the box office.
Speaker C:But just speaking of the box office, just of note, coming in at number 10 this week and still making over $1 million in its 39th week of release, was E.T.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's crazy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:The summer before.
Speaker A:God, the good old days of movies playing and playing and playing in theater.
Speaker A:Now it's like two weeks and you're out.
Speaker A:Paramount merger, Bert.
Speaker B:Oh, shit.
Speaker C: Screenplay, who also won for: Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oscar nominations for Best Director.
Speaker C:Bruce Beresford, he lost to James L. Brooks for Terms of Endearment.
Speaker C:Also got nominated for Best Song over you from Bobby Hart and Austin Roberts, who lost to a third Flash Dance, what a Feeling.
Speaker C:And the last thing I mean, did get nominated for Best Picture, but also lost to Terms of Endearment.
Speaker C:So, yeah, I think that's kind of what I said.
Speaker C:For any other trivia I have here, Robert Duvall.
Speaker C:I saw also right here, Robert Duvall's performance in Tender Mercy's remains as one of the most celebrated of his career.
Speaker C:It was ranked number 14 on Premiere magazine's list of 100 greatest performances of all time.
Speaker C:I saw that some.
Speaker C:Hey, mister.
Speaker B:Were you really Max Sledge?
Speaker B:Yes, ma', am.
Speaker B:I guess I was.
Speaker C:He was a star who reached for.
Speaker B:The stars and fell.
Speaker C:All she remembers about you is a mean drunk trying to beat up her mama.
Speaker B:You're dead.
Speaker C:As far as she's concerned.
Speaker C:He was a star who reached for life through his songs, but never let life reach him.
Speaker B:When are you gonna start singing again, sir?
Speaker B:I'm not gonna start singing again, son.
Speaker C:I've lost him.
Speaker B:He was a star who loved and was loved, yet never learned to love himself.
Speaker B:I have a daughter.
Speaker C:You do?
Speaker B:She's seven or eight years older than you, boy.
Speaker B:Where is she?
Speaker C:With her mama.
Speaker B:Me and her mama are divorced, but.
Speaker C:You all stop talking.
Speaker C:I can't get.
Speaker C:Slay.
Speaker C:Saw that somewhere.
Speaker C:All right, so anyways, let's get into our thoughts in this.
Speaker C:Paul you are our guest.
Speaker C:Can you just give us some initial thoughts on this film and then we'll kind of get into a deep dive on.
Speaker C:On them.
Speaker B:Well, as I may have told you before, it still evokes that era, my favorite era in movies, the 60s and the 70s.
Speaker B:And it's still very much.
Speaker B:It's 83, but it had that feel, that indie film.
Speaker B:Kind of feel like Jack Nicholson should be in this somewhere in, you know, Five Easy Pieces on this, you know, crazy avant garde.
Speaker B:But I mean, it was just so underplayed.
Speaker B:And that's what Duvall did best.
Speaker B:He played huge characters with very, very little effort.
Speaker B:He could say a lot by not saying a lot.
Speaker B:And so I like that.
Speaker B:I like that era.
Speaker B:I like that generation of movies.
Speaker B:And this was one of the best.
Speaker B:I hadn't seen it.
Speaker B:I may have seen it when it first came out, but I just saw it last night again.
Speaker B:And it's just.
Speaker B:It's just quietly brilliant.
Speaker B:I mean, Tess Harper was great.
Speaker B:The little boy was great.
Speaker C:Tess Harper's first movie.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Ellen Barkin.
Speaker B:Ellen Barkin was in it as a young person.
Speaker B:She was only, I just read, somewhere, seven years younger than whoever played Robert Duvall's ex wife in the movie.
Speaker B:They were quite similar in age, but she played the daughter because she looked so young.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, Betty.
Speaker C:Betty Buckley.
Speaker B:Betty Buckley, yeah.
Speaker C:Who's not a country singer at all.
Speaker C:She was a theater.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Well, that's what I mean, makes actors really great.
Speaker B:It's like Duvall wasn't really a singer, but he learned to play and sing, and he was terrific.
Speaker B:I mean, he sounded just like any other twangy country singer he could hear.
Speaker B:But I liked it.
Speaker B:I liked that.
Speaker B:The simplicity of it, the starkness of it.
Speaker B:The camera angles are very static and very still.
Speaker B:You just let the action take place rather than move the camera around a lot.
Speaker B:The scene in the kitchen where he sings for this foot up on the.
Speaker B:On the chair, it's just.
Speaker B:It's just beautiful.
Speaker B:And in the garden, lady, when he's talking about how his daughter died, you know, he's hoeing and then he.
Speaker B:He starts losing it.
Speaker B:And then he gets himself back together.
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker B:And that was all from, you know, that's a medium wide shot.
Speaker B:It's like, usually, you know, you'd be close on his angst there, but they just played it as left.
Speaker B:We're standing off to the side watching this action take place.
Speaker B:Just like.
Speaker B:We're casual observers, not to intrude on their space.
Speaker B:So, I mean, it was just brilliantly done.
Speaker B:Really, really was.
Speaker B:I thought it was one of.
Speaker B:Probably one of the best movies of its generation.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:All right, Sam, do you want to go next?
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker A:I was, I was surprised how much I like this movie, actually.
Speaker A:I went in with zero expectations, not knowing anything.
Speaker A:And when it was that opening shot of shadows against the hotel window and he's fighting that guy and he's.
Speaker A:And he's drunk and I'm going.
Speaker A:My first thought, I hate to admit it was, oh, God, here we go.
Speaker A:Here we go.
Speaker A:Dusty dust bowl drama.
Speaker A:Like, you know.
Speaker A:But what impressed me the most about this movie, that was a running thing throughout.
Speaker A:It was one.
Speaker A: d because this is a film from: Speaker A:It wasn't too, like slow or deliberate and it wasn't too fast.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:I, I knew that I was going to like it.
Speaker A:As soon as Duvall turns to her and goes, I can't remember the exact line, but he says something along the lines of, well, would you consider marrying me?
Speaker A:And just the way that scene was done, I was like, whoa.
Speaker A:I was not like, there's something to me about the pacing of that movie and the fact that it avoids tropes.
Speaker A:I kept thinking, okay, now here's the scene where he's gonna relapse and he's gonna get mad and he's gonna punch her.
Speaker A:And he never did.
Speaker A:Or.
Speaker A:I know, I mean, to me this was.
Speaker A:I'm sure the audience reacted this way too, but at that first scene, when the truck pulls up and all those tough looking guys get out and you go, oh, they're here.
Speaker A:They're going to rough her up and they're going to beat the place up.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And no, they were his biggest fans and they wanted him.
Speaker A:And so I thought was not expecting that.
Speaker A:So the movie never went into the typical tropey path that I thought it was.
Speaker A:And it was very much like real life in that sense, because real life doesn't follow.
Speaker A:And here's a narrative moment and here's a pinnacle moment.
Speaker A:It just, it moved forward like reality.
Speaker A:And I found that I really enjoyed it and I would absolutely see that movie again solely to just be able to spend more time with those characters.
Speaker A:I felt like those people were real.
Speaker A:And Robert Duvall, to me, he's always been a good actor, but he did not seem like star Robert Duvall playing a character, he seemed like that guy.
Speaker A:He seemed was the character and he inhabited it so effortlessly.
Speaker A:And I found him sort of running from himself and running from his past and his soul.
Speaker A:So realistic.
Speaker A:The movie was.
Speaker A:I found it surprisingly touching.
Speaker A:And I loved when it ended when he's playing ball with the kids, with the kid.
Speaker C:It.
Speaker A:I love movies that end on a hopeful note.
Speaker A:But it didn't wrap it up in this perfect, happy, like happily ever after, you know, it said went through this.
Speaker A:He lost his daughter.
Speaker A:This is tragic, tragic.
Speaker A:But here's hope.
Speaker A:This family unit has an optimistic future and it's most likely they'll stand the test of time and that's where they're going to leave these characters.
Speaker A:And I sat there for a moment, kind of emotional.
Speaker A:I mean, I was.
Speaker A:I was surprised how much I like this movie.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:It was so simple.
Speaker B:It was a very simple, brilliant movie in its simplicity.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, we've reviewed a lot of movies that I respect, but I don't personally connect to.
Speaker A:But I'll give it a good review because I. I appreciate the filmmaking.
Speaker A:This movie, I actually like connected to it and felt the heart.
Speaker A:And I was like, wow, I did not see that coming.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:I think like you said, this was the.
Speaker C:My first time watching this as well.
Speaker C:And I've heard about this movie for years and years as being Robert Duvall's like, best performance, you know, ever.
Speaker C:And when Pete.
Speaker C:I've just so many anecdotal discussions about this and there was all this buildup over this movie and I had a feeling that I was also going to kind of be let down by it at one from hearing about it, but I was just not prepared how remarkable this movie was.
Speaker C:I actually watched this twice and we had a lot of time.
Speaker C:We had a month to prepare for this.
Speaker C:I watched this about a month ago and I watched it again about a week and a half ago.
Speaker C:Watching the second time solidified everything that I loved about this movie.
Speaker C:And one of them that really stuck with me, just how understated everything is in this.
Speaker C:And it resists.
Speaker C:It resists these big emotional crescendos, resists melodrama.
Speaker C:Instead, it gives us these quiet moments that are allowed to breathe.
Speaker C:And those moments carry this emotional weight where nothing is really said.
Speaker C:But that's what I love.
Speaker C:I love movies like that because there's so much that I can't stand when a movie has to just hammer over audience's head what a character is thinking.
Speaker C:And at some point, maybe I'll talk about Project Hillbilly.
Speaker C:And one of the few people that saw that that had some major issues with it because everyone's talking about how there's this emotional impact of the movie.
Speaker C:But I was like, I wish that movie was a silent movie because we're going off on a tangent here.
Speaker C:But I have some issues with that because it was just everything is stated overstated in that movie.
Speaker C:But this movie was the complete opposite.
Speaker C:And there are just several scenes where I actually found myself wishing that they actually even lingered long every.
Speaker C:We haven't.
Speaker C:We'll get into the cinematography of this.
Speaker C:But the stillness of so many of these scenes where that camera is just locked down and pointing at these scenes.
Speaker C:Everything is.
Speaker C:Everything's almost.
Speaker C:What's the word?
Speaker C:Like these.
Speaker C:I'm missing the word for it.
Speaker C:But it's a painting of these rooms are looking out on these fields with the motel in the background.
Speaker C:It's everything.
Speaker C:I want to like have like a poster on my wall.
Speaker C:What of almost every single set piece in this movie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like a tableau.
Speaker C:Tableau.
Speaker C:That's what everything's the tableaus.
Speaker C:And is.
Speaker C:It's gorgeous.
Speaker C:And even when.
Speaker C:And you mentioned it Paul.
Speaker C:Which I was going to say is that rarely does Bruce go in for the close up.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I was so impressed how much he just like he's not afraid to let these scenes play out in wides.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker C:You know, you've got your star actor right here but you're sometimes seeing him from the back.
Speaker C:You seeing like when he meets up with the band and you're mostly seeing like seven actors in this wide shot and he's letting it all play out.
Speaker C:And I love it when a director in a cinematographer have the confidence and the trust in the audience that those actors and the.
Speaker C:The way it's staged can carry that emotional weight without having to go in for these tight close up.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And just let them see the scenes play out.
Speaker C:And I wish movies were made like this still.
Speaker C:They are sometimes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's really true and I agree with you and I'll say something about Project Hail Mary because I'm actually totally agree with you, Nathan.
Speaker A:But like I liked Project Hail Mary just fine.
Speaker A:I enjoyed it.
Speaker A:But I know what you mean.
Speaker A:Where it really indicates its moments.
Speaker A:I think the reason that it's such a big hit is because people are kind of starved these days for anything that's original and big and so because it was like fun for the most part.
Speaker A:They're like, oh, it's amazing.
Speaker A:But I Liked it, but I didn't love it.
Speaker A:So I'm totally on your page with that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And we don't have to get into that, but.
Speaker A:Oh, for sure.
Speaker C:I really like the movie.
Speaker C:I just.
Speaker C:I took off, like, a point because there's just all these little moments where I just wish Ryan Gosling just shut up for a moment and just let the movie do its magic without saying, like, things like, I'm having a moment here.
Speaker C:You know, there was little things like.
Speaker C:Like that.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker A:I think those two directors are like that.
Speaker A:They do those kind of little kitschy like.
Speaker A:Like, wink, wink moments, and that's what makes them not my favorite directors.
Speaker A:Like, I wish they would just let the material breathe.
Speaker C:But anyway, I think the fact that I saw both these movies within 24 hours of each other also kind of solidified that feeling.
Speaker C:But anyways, that.
Speaker C:Another discussion.
Speaker C:Anyways, so those are my.
Speaker C:My basic thoughts.
Speaker C:I. I just.
Speaker C:I really like this movie a lot and never pushes ideas too hard.
Speaker C:And it's just.
Speaker C:The story just naturally unfolds, and it's really.
Speaker C:I just love that it's just about relationships, about Mac and Rosalie, Mac and Sonny.
Speaker C:I love movies like this.
Speaker C:People talking in rooms.
Speaker C:You know, I need more of that in my life.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I don't mean to.
Speaker A: ilm noir movies we watched in: Speaker A:And what's interesting is some of those movies had similar techniques of people just talking.
Speaker A:But for some reason, this.
Speaker A:I connected to Tender Mercies so much more.
Speaker A:Even though I liked, like, the.
Speaker A:I think I gave positive reviews.
Speaker A:Like, I like those films.
Speaker A:But Tender Mercies is a movie that I only just saw recently.
Speaker A:I'm already ready to get the poster and, like, put it up in my wall in my apartment.
Speaker A:Like, I. I like that family.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:Man, that movie spoke to me.
Speaker A:And it's strange because, like, I'm not a country singer.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:I. I don't.
Speaker A:That's not my life at all.
Speaker A:And so I was thinking what this movie is like reaching out of the screen and speaking to me directly.
Speaker A:And I was impressed that it did that.
Speaker A:And I almost don't quite understand it, but I love it.
Speaker C:Well, Sam, this isn't about.
Speaker C:I mean, country singing is a piece of this, but this is about, you know, a person just trying to get a second chance in life, and it's not really.
Speaker C:And that's what I love about this.
Speaker C:Max.
Speaker C:He's a.
Speaker C:He's a Failed father.
Speaker C:He's given a second chance.
Speaker C:And it's about a boy, Sonny, who, Who's never knew his father.
Speaker C:And he has a second chance at a father figure.
Speaker C:This movie really, really hit me hard too.
Speaker C:So, yes, I didn't even, you know, the music on it, the music in it really is not my kind of music.
Speaker C:I'm not a fan of country music.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Honky tonk music, any of this at all.
Speaker C:But I actually liked Robert Duvall.
Speaker C:His, his quiet playing.
Speaker C:Like when he's on.
Speaker C:He's one time laying on bed playing the guitar.
Speaker C:I could have.
Speaker C:We could.
Speaker C:The director could have let him play for another five minutes.
Speaker C:I could have just like, just indulged in that.
Speaker C:When he's playing guitar in the kitchen and Sony's watching him, he's saying, this is a D, this is a G. That whole thing.
Speaker B:I could have.
Speaker C:I could have done that for another five minutes.
Speaker C:I was so.
Speaker C:I was almost hypnotized by those scenes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he's so quietly intense too.
Speaker A:Like, there's so many scenes where you think he's gonna lose his cool, but he doesn't.
Speaker A:But he's got that underlying intensity where he's talking to Wilford Brimley and Wilford Brimley is saying, like, well, why don't you share your songs with me?
Speaker A:I'm a business.
Speaker A:Because I don't want to.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:That's what I said.
Speaker A:And then he walks away and I was like,.
Speaker B:Intense.
Speaker B:Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, he was a tightly wound spring.
Speaker B:He could snap at any minute, you think?
Speaker B:But he's very much controlled.
Speaker B:And again, it's a second chance.
Speaker B:He knows he's got a good thing with this woman and he's not going to screw it up by getting shit faced and do something stupid.
Speaker B:So he's kind of like.
Speaker A:He's kind of like me on the set of Mark, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Is Mark streaming anywhere?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:You know, it will be on YouTube soon.
Speaker A:All my short films are going to go on YouTube because they're finally all going to be up there.
Speaker A:Because people put their short films behind paywalls and do all this stuff and I'm like, no, on YouTube anyone can watch it.
Speaker A:Enjoy the movies, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that's coming.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:But anyway, back to this film it's all about.
Speaker B:We're talking about.
Speaker B:What's it about.
Speaker B:It's about connection.
Speaker B:And that resonates with so many people who have broken relationships or gaps in their lives in which they could fill up with, you know, human interaction.
Speaker B:And that's kind of what this does.
Speaker B:He's a three not lost people.
Speaker B:He was lost a little boy is because like you said, he.
Speaker B:This is his chance to get a father they never knew.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And she was, you know, working her ass off trying to run this little shitty motel in a gas station.
Speaker B:So it's, you know, it's three lives that intersected just at the right time.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:It was just a beautiful amalgam of humanity coming.
Speaker B:Coming to one, and they just all of a sudden they made a family.
Speaker B:There's one.
Speaker B:One where there was three.
Speaker A:You know, that really explains why I think I relate to it because I'm definitely in like Act 2 of my life and Act 1, my, you know, I.
Speaker A:The career opportunities that I really botched and have.
Speaker A:Getting a second chance now is like, so merciful.
Speaker A:So it's a tender mercy to me as well.
Speaker A:So I. I really relate to that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I firmly believe you got to reinvent yourself every once in a while.
Speaker B:And they do that every several years.
Speaker B:So things just happen the way they happen.
Speaker B:But, yeah, you can't get complacent and take anything for granted.
Speaker B:You just got to keep pushing your own envelope.
Speaker A:So anyway, absolutely.
Speaker C:I was really impressed.
Speaker C:You know, we talked about Sony, the actor's name is Alan Hubbard.
Speaker C:He didn't do much acting after this, but I was really, really impressed with how natural, really natural he was in this film as far as child performances go.
Speaker C:Never felt forced or over rehearsed in this.
Speaker C:Very authentic and one of most the movies that we've reviewed on this podcast.
Speaker C:I think he's way up there as far as performance.
Speaker C:Really good and that in that we've already jumped to the end here, but that scene where he is playing ball with the ball at the end really brought me to tears, like seeing how this all is coalescing at the end.
Speaker C:In Sunny is not just Rosalie son anymore.
Speaker C:He's become Max son, you know, and this is where Mac almost is at a crossroads again, and he makes the right decision to go to Sony.
Speaker C:So this really warmed my heart seeing how this movie on a positive.
Speaker B:And then Tess Harper standing, you know, standing there watching them play, and.
Speaker B:And you could tell she's like, man, I hope this is the real thing.
Speaker B:I mean, you could just tell she was not torn.
Speaker B:She loved that he was doing it, but she was like, man, I hope this sticks, you know, because life is so fragile, so you don't know if this guy's gonna get drunk and take off But, I mean, he's proven himself.
Speaker B:But she's still maybe a little apprehensive because her first protective instinct is for her son.
Speaker B:She doesn't want to see him get hurt.
Speaker A:So, like, that child actor was so good.
Speaker A:I, I.
Speaker A: child actor in a movie, it's: Speaker A:Sean Connery has a phone call because he's.
Speaker A:He's a sheriff on a mov moon and of Jupiter or something.
Speaker A:And he calls his wife back home, and it's his wife and kid on like a zoom call, like a video chat.
Speaker A:And the kid, Trust me when I say, and I feel terrible saying this, but it is so aggressively bad when you watch this, you're not going to be like, oh, it's.
Speaker A:It's Sam's interpretation.
Speaker A:You're going to be like, oh, Jesus.
Speaker A:Like, this kid goes, I love you, Daddy.
Speaker A:I miss you.
Speaker A:And you're watching it and you're like, he reached, like, takes you out of the movie.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And whoever that actor is, I'm sure he's not acting today.
Speaker A:But, but hey, no, maybe he got better.
Speaker C:Maybe he got.
Speaker A:Maybe he got better.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:He became talking a lot about Robert Duvall's performance.
Speaker C:I, I forget.
Speaker C:I think it was you, Paul, that mentioned about how, you know, he.
Speaker C:He doesn't lose his composure, doesn't lose his cool when he could have.
Speaker C:When he could have.
Speaker C:And there's a scene that I love here, and I have to say, this poor Paul Gleason, he never.
Speaker C:He, he.
Speaker C:He will always play the.
Speaker A:That was the one bit of casting that I kind of laughed at because he's.
Speaker A:Paul Gleason is a good actor, but I found him very distracting when he shows up.
Speaker A:He's like, I need to know the story.
Speaker A:Like, give me the story.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I was like, you're gonna be the principal in the Breakfast Club soon.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker A:Just have fun with it, you know,.
Speaker C:Like the history of, like, I never knew he was in this movie, but, wow, they.
Speaker C:The guy cannot escape being typecasted for being the asshole.
Speaker C:Even back in this movie, Trading Places.
Speaker C:I mean, you think about Die Hard.
Speaker C:I mean, Die Hard, that's the one.
Speaker A:I was thinking about.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:He does play a dick most of the time.
Speaker B:He does pump his ass.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You mentioned Jack Nicholson, Paul, that Jack Nicholson should have had a cameo and been in that role and been all intense, like, I gotta know the story.
Speaker A:The people need to know about your singing, Mr. Sledge, you know, and he.
Speaker B:Could be in the back of his pickup truck playing a piano while he rolls into town.
Speaker B:That's where that.
Speaker B:That's what this movie kind of evoked.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That spirit of that kind of movie.
Speaker B:Like Five Easy Pieces, it was this simplistic out in the country, out in the middle of nowhere setting that could be anywhere.
Speaker B:And like that.
Speaker B:That's what I love about it, because it was so.
Speaker B:I mean, they didn't have a lot of location shots.
Speaker B:I mean, must have saved money on that because it was pretty basic.
Speaker B:It was very, very basic shot.
Speaker B:And I. I just love stories.
Speaker B:I've written scripts, and it seems like most of the scripts I write end up being, like two handers, because I like that.
Speaker B:I like conversations.
Speaker B:I like people sitting around talking and just, you know, getting on with life and figuring stuff out.
Speaker B:Like we all do.
Speaker B:You know, we do it.
Speaker B:We do it in real life, but it's fun to see it done in movies, too.
Speaker C:They were scouting.
Speaker C:I know that they were looking for locations where if they saw, like, the motel, you saw nothing else in the background.
Speaker C:It had to have a very isolated feel.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I. I think it's a great locate.
Speaker C:The locations are awesome in this.
Speaker C:And all the environments have this, like, authentic, weathered feel to everything, like the wallpaper, the furniture.
Speaker C:All the locations just feel incredibly authentic.
Speaker C:The most, like, every part of the gas station.
Speaker C:And I also noticed that the colors in this.
Speaker C:And this is something I noticed on second viewing.
Speaker C:The saturated color palette and the use of red, white, and blue throughout the film.
Speaker C:Everything is.
Speaker C:There's a lot of red in this movie.
Speaker C:Red signs, Coke signs, vans, the carpets.
Speaker C:Red elements pop visually everywhere.
Speaker C:This.
Speaker C:Throughout this movie.
Speaker C:And it kind of pops against a very dusty Texas landscape.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Everything else is very muted.
Speaker C:But these colors, when they do choose, are obviously intentional.
Speaker B:Pop a lot.
Speaker C:And I.
Speaker C:It does.
Speaker C: tually feel like a movie from: Speaker C:But these colors, I.
Speaker C:The blues, the reds are really intense in this, and I really, really liked it.
Speaker A:Yeah, I love colorful movies.
Speaker A:I wish there.
Speaker A:There's too much.
Speaker A:I mean, it's changing now because there's, like, a lot of good, like, independent films.
Speaker A:But there's a tendency with a lot of modern things to sort of drain color a little bit and make it just a little bit colder.
Speaker A:And I. I just.
Speaker A:I really like those rich, rich, colorful movies and.
Speaker A:And it's just refreshing to watch this movie where they can let a scene breathe and not have to edit it away and chop it into bits.
Speaker B:Or.
Speaker A:Like, if this was a modern film from another director, it would be like close up on Robert Duvall, reverse angle.
Speaker A:Close up on record player, close up on Coke machine.
Speaker A:And you'd be like.
Speaker A:You know, it's just like.
Speaker A:It's just like, chill.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:They let you take in the whole scene like you would if you were standing there.
Speaker B:You wouldn't be standing right up in somebody's face and looking at them.
Speaker B:You just take it from afar.
Speaker C:You almost feel like you could be in the room, just kind of like an observer of this.
Speaker C:That's what I love about you.
Speaker C:It makes it feel more authentic that you're.
Speaker C:This is a scene really playing out, almost like a stage play in some ways.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker B:You know, it's funny you mentioned about color.
Speaker B:It's like, I remember back in.
Speaker B:When I was young, we'd go to Drive Ins and see how the west was won.
Speaker B:Seven.
Speaker B:Seven Brides of Seven Brothers.
Speaker B:These really vibrant Technicolor movies, mostly Westerns.
Speaker B:My dad loved westerns.
Speaker B:And it just imbued the entire.
Speaker B:The sky was blue.
Speaker B:Blue.
Speaker B:The water was blue.
Speaker B:The trees were green.
Speaker B:But that.
Speaker B:That was overdone.
Speaker B:I mean, movies like this one, it's just color that happens to be there, just happens to be bright.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:It doesn't.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It doesn't become one of the characters like those old movies.
Speaker B:The vibrancy of it all.
Speaker B:The color became like one of the characters, and it was kind of distracting.
Speaker B:But that was new technology at the time, and they had to show it off to pay for it.
Speaker B:So that was.
Speaker C:Any of the key story moments that go over here.
Speaker C:I mean, this is also about Max.
Speaker C:He wants to reconnect with his daughter, Sue Ann.
Speaker C:Ellen Barkin also, I think her first movie as well.
Speaker C:I think I saw Ellen Barkin pretty young.
Speaker B:Uncomfortable until.
Speaker C:Uncomfortable.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:But it's.
Speaker B:He didn't have a hand in raising her.
Speaker B:I mean, I guess he was a kind of an absentee dad.
Speaker B:He was an alcoholic.
Speaker B:So, you know, you get to stand there, make amends, and somebody else's living room, and you haven't seen your kid in years.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's a lot of pressure, I just, like.
Speaker C:Because it's.
Speaker C:We get to see a different side of him from the rest of this movie.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's awkward and shy.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:He's very nervous, and he's tried to hide his emotions.
Speaker C:In a smile.
Speaker C:It feels like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Very forced.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A: same in every single movie in: Speaker A: The firm in: Speaker A:He looks exactly the same.
Speaker A:He was, like, born at a certain age and, like, stays that way for like 20 years in cinema.
Speaker B:The same mustache, same.
Speaker C:In the thing.
Speaker C:To bring it back to the thing.
Speaker C:All where he doesn't have the mustache.
Speaker C:I don't get that.
Speaker C:They need to go back and digitally add the mustache to Wilford Brimley in the thing.
Speaker C:I think it'd be a better movie.
Speaker B:I can't.
Speaker B:Every time I think of Wilford Brimley, I think of.
Speaker B:Who's the guy they were talking about?
Speaker B:Wilford Brimley and the turkey.
Speaker B:Thanksgiving turkey.
Speaker B:Like, who's like.
Speaker B:Oh, Imus.
Speaker B:When I misted that bit.
Speaker B:Oh, you guys remember that?
Speaker B:Look up Wilford Burley.
Speaker A:That sounds hilarious.
Speaker B:Well, it's just.
Speaker B:It was just a voiceover thing, but it's not my.
Speaker B:And I like to get the turkey and then get it right from behind.
Speaker B:And he said bone, and he's bone in a turkey.
Speaker B:He's just stuffing the turkey as well.
Speaker B:Only Wilfred Brimley could.
Speaker B:It's hilarious.
Speaker B:You're twisted.
Speaker B:I'm surprised you haven't heard of that.
Speaker A:That's something I would.
Speaker A:I would watch in a second.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, it's an audio, but it's funny as.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, you're gonna.
Speaker B:You gotta see it.
Speaker B:Anyway, that's Wilfred Brumley because didn't he do the.
Speaker B:The diabetes commercials?
Speaker A:Diabetes.
Speaker B:Diabetes.
Speaker B:It's a great class a great character actor.
Speaker B:Man, he was a.
Speaker B:His ornery, but he was a.
Speaker B:He was a good actor.
Speaker A:It's so true.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker C:Anyway, any other.
Speaker C:I mean, this is very straightforward, simple movie in a lot of ways, about relationships, redemption.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:There's more that to go on.
Speaker B:I mean, yeah, it's.
Speaker B:It's the kind of.
Speaker B:The feelings that beset us all from time to time.
Speaker B:Like, it's like regrets.
Speaker B:What did we do wrong?
Speaker B:What could we have done better?
Speaker B:There's a lot of self examination in there.
Speaker B:And in this movie it's done very quietly or under the surface.
Speaker A:But, you know, I actually, I have no regrets.
Speaker A:I've never made a mistake ever in my life.
Speaker B:Not even casting me.
Speaker A:No, that was, that was.
Speaker A:That was an excellent decision.
Speaker A:I would like to point out too, that Paul Kandarian is the best actor east of the Mississippi river, west of It.
Speaker A:Not so much.
Speaker A:But he owns that half of the country cast Paul Kandarin in a movie.
Speaker A:He's a great actor.
Speaker A:And that's, that's no joke.
Speaker A:You actually are a very good actor.
Speaker A:And I do find career inspiring.
Speaker A:And I like your.
Speaker A:The amount of work that you do motivated me to get my act together in LA and stop being like, you know, I was like, oh, this town is tough.
Speaker A:And it's like, Sam, are you here to work or not?
Speaker A:And I started to work and you inspired that, so.
Speaker B:Oh, good.
Speaker B:Well, you're welcome.
Speaker B:I appreciate that.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, I just.
Speaker A:No, go yourself.
Speaker A:No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was, that was my next, my next line.
Speaker A:But I couldn't resist.
Speaker A:But I do mean that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, I just, I was, I texted my editor today because he put me in for a couple of commercials.
Speaker B:I didn't get them, but you know, where I was on a roll.
Speaker B:I was doing a bunch of stuff.
Speaker B:He said, yeah, you can't look back.
Speaker B:I said, I know, I'm so.
Speaker B:He said, don't dwell on.
Speaker B:I said, I'm not dwelling.
Speaker B:And I said, believe me, I just skimmed.
Speaker B:So I skimmed the rejections and there's a lot of them, but I'm like, look at it go.
Speaker B:Yeah, fuck it.
Speaker B:I couldn't have done anything different.
Speaker B:So I just move on to the next.
Speaker C:Next one.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:And I'm just so happy to work and just have the mentality like, if I can be a working actor in addition to what I do, that's.
Speaker A:That's a win for me.
Speaker A:It's like you go into it with an open mind.
Speaker A:I see people who limit themselves and say, I will only pick a Shakespeare role.
Speaker A:I will only do this, I will only do that.
Speaker A:And then someone comes to them with this brilliant comedy and they turn it down.
Speaker A:And it's like, why?
Speaker A:You just should have done it.
Speaker A:It's just to be open.
Speaker A:Like, the only thing I wouldn't do is if it was some like, you know, extreme right wing, like Trump supporting movie, I'd have to be like, no, no, thank you.
Speaker A:But, you know, I'm open.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, God.
Speaker B:And that's what, that's why I play just about every character you can think of.
Speaker B:You know, I got tons of IMDb credits and they're all diverse, they're all different.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that's kind of what.
Speaker B:And that's what you got to do in this business.
Speaker B:To get back to Duval, Duval played so many diverse characters that he could do anything.
Speaker B:That guy.
Speaker B:Guy.
Speaker B:And that's what makes working actors working actors.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:And the three of us have been together in the most incredible movie ever made about the Seonk Cinema.
Speaker A:We're immortalized forever.
Speaker A:And they finally started taking a wrecking ball to the inside.
Speaker A:But I thought that we were getting in there by the skin of our teeth filming that.
Speaker A:And that building has been there for two more years.
Speaker A:We had plenty of time to shoot.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Are they in the inside?
Speaker B:I see.
Speaker B:I see construction stuff outside, but they've.
Speaker A:Hollowed out the inside so you can look through and just.
Speaker A:It's like this big open demolition space now.
Speaker A:We should make a sequel.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:I wonder what the.
Speaker B:Gotta wonder what they're doing in there.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:They're taking their time, but, yeah, they're knocking it down.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, that was it.
Speaker C:That dollar tree, probably.
Speaker C:Who knows?
Speaker B:Jesus.
Speaker B:The huge, biggest dollar tree in the country.
Speaker B:But anyway, that.
Speaker B:That restaurant across the street used to be a Howard Johnson.
Speaker B:That's where I got my first job when I was like 14, 15 years old.
Speaker B:Old.
Speaker B:And I would go there every time I needed a job.
Speaker B:I just go in there.
Speaker A:Oh, no way.
Speaker A:Do you still hate the Seaconk Speedway?
Speaker A:Because you said in the movie, and I quote you, like.
Speaker A:And the Seaconk Speedway, which I hate.
Speaker B:Yeah, I. I hated it because you.
Speaker B:No matter where I went, if.
Speaker B:Wherever.
Speaker B:Wherever I was, people would say, where you from?
Speaker B:And say, yeah, I never heard of it.
Speaker B:Seaconk.
Speaker B:Oh, the speedway said, Jesus Christ.
Speaker B:It's like sometimes people hear my name and they go, oh, like Kardashian.
Speaker B:I said, I will punch you in.
Speaker B:In the.
Speaker B:You call me Kardashian.
Speaker B:But that.
Speaker A:I now understand that context.
Speaker A:That is brilliant.
Speaker B:I would be.
Speaker A:I totally get that.
Speaker B:But I could hear it because I was.
Speaker B:This is how old I am.
Speaker B:I lived in Seong on Cold street before the highway was there, before 195 was there.
Speaker B:It's all farmland.
Speaker B:You could hear the speedway because it's across, you know, Route 6.
Speaker B:As a crow flies.
Speaker B:As old people say, we still need.
Speaker A:To film you walking into your childhood house.
Speaker A:House with new people that live there.
Speaker A:And you're like, I'm coming back.
Speaker A:They're like, who the hell are you?
Speaker A:You're like, I lived here as a kid.
Speaker A:I mean, I didn't mean to cut you off.
Speaker A:You could hear the Seacock Speedway in the crow.
Speaker A:We film that.
Speaker A:You knock on the door of your childhood house.
Speaker A:You go and you lie down on the bed.
Speaker A:And they're like, who the hell is this?
Speaker B:Well, until the cops got there, I would just sit there, cry my eyes out.
Speaker A:Oh, God, I hear that.
Speaker A:Oh, my.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, man, I hear that.
Speaker B:But those old movies are what inspired me to become an actor at some point in my life.
Speaker B:And it took a while, but anyway, we're off.
Speaker B:We're on tangents.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You're crushing it, Paul.
Speaker A:You're crushing it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker B:Thank you, both of you.
Speaker C:We take a quick little break and come back with our final thoughts and our rating and our decision on this.
Speaker C:I'm putting the network news show under programming.
Speaker C:Mr. Ruddy has had a mild heart attack and is not taking calls.
Speaker B:In his absence, I'm making all network.
Speaker C:Decisions, including one I've been working, wanting to make a long time.
Speaker C:You're fired.
Speaker C:I want you out of this building by noon.
Speaker B:I'll call the security guards and have.
Speaker C:You thrown out if you're still here.
Speaker A:Well, let's say you, Hackett, you want me out of here, you're gonna have to drag me out kicking and screaming and the whole news division kicking and screaming with me.
Speaker B:You think they're gonna quit their jobs for you?
Speaker B:Not in this recession.
Speaker C:Buddy.
Speaker B:Buddy gets back, he'll have your ass.
Speaker C:I got a hits.
Speaker C:Schumacher and Ruddy doesn't count anymore.
Speaker C:He was hoping I'd fall on my face with this Beal show, but I didn't.
Speaker C:It's a big, fat, big titted hit.
Speaker C:And I don't have to waffle around with Ruddy anymore.
Speaker C:If he wants to take me up.
Speaker B:Before the CCA board, let him.
Speaker C:Do you think Ruddy is stupid enough to go to the CCA board and.
Speaker B:Say, I'm taking our one hit show off the air?
Speaker C:And comes November 14th, I'm going to be standing up there at the annual CCA Management Review meeting, and I'm going to announce projected earnings for this network for the first time in five years.
Speaker C:And believe me, Mr. Jensen is gonna be sitting there rocking back and forth in his little chair and he's gonna say, that's very good, Frank.
Speaker C:Keep it up.
Speaker C:So don't have any illusions about who's running this network from now on.
Speaker C:You're fired.
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Speaker C:We are waiting for a voice message we can play on the show.
Speaker C:It's been like three years.
Speaker C:We haven't gotten one yet.
Speaker C:Let's get one.
Speaker C:That's what we want.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker B:Shouldn't have told me that.
Speaker B:I do voices.
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Speaker C:Okay, it is time to get to our final thoughts.
Speaker C:I don't think there's much we haven't held back on on this, but our rating, which is from 1 to 5, we can go half points on that, too.
Speaker C:And our verdict, Whether we want to save or purge this movie out into the flaming apocalypse, never to be seen again.
Speaker C:Paul, you are our guest.
Speaker C:So please give us your brief final thoughts on Tender Mercies.
Speaker C:And a rating 1 to 5.
Speaker C:And yay or nay to save this movie.
Speaker C:Movie.
Speaker B:Oh, yay to save it 5.
Speaker B:Because it's so good.
Speaker B:And it's De Niro's favorite.
Speaker B:I mean, Dinero Duvall's favorite movie.
Speaker B:He said it was his favorite movie to make.
Speaker B:He said if he had never made a movie in his life, Max Sledge would be the, you know, the one character he loved the most.
Speaker B:And he's right.
Speaker B:It was a classic character.
Speaker B:He's done Santini.
Speaker B:He's done, you know, the Colonel, whatever.
Speaker B:Apocalypse Now.
Speaker B:This was just such quiet, brilliant and understated.
Speaker B:It's a classic.
Speaker B:It's an American classic.
Speaker C:Classic.
Speaker B:And just at the tail end of the golden era of filmmaking.
Speaker B:60S and 70s, it morphed into the 70s.
Speaker B:That might have been the last film of its type.
Speaker B:And then everything got to be Back to the Future.
Speaker B:Ish and big.
Speaker B:But this is a perfect, small, intimate movie.
Speaker B:So it's like you sitting in the living room watching these people have a life, and you're just there to be part of it.
Speaker B:So, yeah, I got to give it kudos, tops.
Speaker B:You can't purge this.
Speaker B:I will come back.
Speaker C:We're right, right, Sam?
Speaker B:Next.
Speaker A:I think Robert Dairo would like this movie I mean, he does.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And when asking him, he's like, yeah, it's.
Speaker A:It's pretty good.
Speaker A:Good.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I would.
Speaker A:I. Yeah, I love this movie.
Speaker A:I would definitely save it because not only just saving it out of respect, saving it because I know I will be watching it again.
Speaker A:Like, I look forward to returning to this movie.
Speaker A:I will give it four stars.
Speaker A:I liked it a lot.
Speaker A:Save this film Tender Mercies, what's followed by its sequel, Vengeful what's the opposite of mercy?
Speaker A: Vengeful Cruelty in the year: Speaker A:That movie doesn't exist.
Speaker A:But the first one's better, so I'm gonna save it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker C:And you know what I just love about this film is how.
Speaker C:Just like I said before, how quiet and understated it is.
Speaker C:They don't make these anymore.
Speaker C:This film trusts the audience, doesn't need to explain everything.
Speaker C:It lets moments linger.
Speaker C:It lets silence do the work.
Speaker C:The themes of redemption and faith are present.
Speaker C:We even talk about the whole religious elements in this, but they're never preached, even though it's part of this.
Speaker C:And they just lived through these characters.
Speaker C:And it's about, like I said, Sony, a boy who never knew his father, and Mac, a father who failed and is given a second chance.
Speaker C:And I love that it's about that, but doesn't have to, like, hit us over the head with that.
Speaker C:And despite all the tragedy in Max life, his heart isn't completely broken.
Speaker C:It's warmed by.
Speaker C:By Sonny and by the quiet life he's building with him and with Rosalie.
Speaker C:So for me, this is maybe the most understated and deeply human films I've ever seen.
Speaker C:It's up there.
Speaker C:I'm trying to think of something else that would be.
Speaker C:That's more than that, but I generally think this.
Speaker C:This is a great film.
Speaker C:I'm giving it four and a half out of five.
Speaker C:It could have been tighter.
Speaker C:No, I'm kidding.
Speaker C:No, I wish.
Speaker C:I honestly wish that longer I. I was gonna.
Speaker A:I was.
Speaker A:I wish there was.
Speaker A:Movie was like 15, 20 minutes longer.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I could have lingered with this move.
Speaker C:In fact, there were times where Max staring out the window or he's talking to Sony, like, why do they cut away from this?
Speaker C:Why aren't we staying with this longer?
Speaker C:I actually felt it went.
Speaker C:And that is rare to do that to me.
Speaker A:That's when you know it's a good movie when you want it to when you want it to linger and you're like, I could have used more of that.
Speaker A:I bet you weren't thinking that after.
Speaker A:You know what I'm gonna say?
Speaker A:Avatar Fire and Ash.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:But yes, absolutely.
Speaker C:Save this movie.
Speaker C:This is a diamond in the rough for sure.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:As I look at my.
Speaker C:My.
Speaker A:Isn't there a.
Speaker A:Was there a game or something?
Speaker A:You said that.
Speaker C:Hold that thought.
Speaker A:I'm so sorry.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Shall we play a game?
Speaker C:Oh, I think I missed them.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Weird, isn't it?
Speaker A:Love to.
Speaker C:How about Global Thermonuclear War?
Speaker B:Wouldn't you prefer a good game of chess?
Speaker C:Later.
Speaker C:Let's play Global Thermonuclear War.
Speaker B:Fine.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:It is game time.
Speaker C:And with the game we're playing is called Movie title or Country Vinyl.
Speaker C:I'm making this up on the spot.
Speaker C:We usually do our recommendation self, but I wanted to mix it up this week with you two because we actually have the ability to do that.
Speaker C:Three of us here.
Speaker C:I'm gonna play the host of this game.
Speaker C:I am the Alex Trebek.
Speaker B:The of you Banks.
Speaker C:What's his name?
Speaker C:Richard Dawson.
Speaker C:I'm not gonna kiss you guys, though.
Speaker B:Oh, you're not that creepy.
Speaker C:And well, how this works is I am gonna give you a titles and you have to tell me, is this a movie title, a country song title, or did I make this up?
Speaker A:As.
Speaker A:As boss Nass said in episode one, me Salaiga dis.
Speaker C:And I'm guessing that none of us here are big country music fans.
Speaker C:I think Paul Yuri told me this earlier this week.
Speaker C:So I'm doing my best here.
Speaker C:Some of these can be easy because we're all movie fans.
Speaker C:So finding movie titles that aren't and obvious to us was not easy.
Speaker C:But I'm gonna do my best here.
Speaker C:So there's gonna be tears here.
Speaker C:There's.
Speaker C:There's some.
Speaker C:They're gonna be some low hanging fruit here that I know you guys are gonna get, but we're just gonna go through this and see who wins.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker C:And I don't know you.
Speaker C:What do you want?
Speaker C:What do you want the stakes to be here?
Speaker B:It's between a steak.
Speaker C:Steak.
Speaker B:If.
Speaker A:If whoever wins gets the Alan Sean Feinstein Prize for Humanity.
Speaker B:I did a story on him once.
Speaker B:He was.
Speaker B:He was an interesting guy.
Speaker A:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, man.
Speaker B:Anyway, okay.
Speaker C:I am going to.
Speaker C:All right, it is game time.
Speaker C:Game on.
Speaker C:And Paul, you're our guest, so I am.
Speaker C:You can decide if you want to go first or second.
Speaker B:I'll go first.
Speaker C:Okay, here we go again.
Speaker C:Name of a movie.
Speaker C:A country song or did I make it up?
Speaker C:The first thing in is here.
Speaker C:The title is Poncho and Lefty.
Speaker B:I think you made that up.
Speaker C:That is incorrect.
Speaker C:It is a song.
Speaker B:Country western song.
Speaker B:Oh, it's country western you said, right?
Speaker C:Country western.
Speaker A:It was Labor Day weekend.
Speaker A:I was 17, buying some soda and some gasoline.
Speaker C:All right, here we go.
Speaker C:Next thing is the Ballad of Cable Hogue.
Speaker C:Is it a song, is it a movie?
Speaker C:Or did I make it up?
Speaker C:Sam?
Speaker C:The Ballad of Cable Hogue.
Speaker C:H O G U E.
Speaker A:Song.
Speaker C:No, that is a movie, damn it.
Speaker C:All right, you guys suck.
Speaker B:Who is it?
Speaker C:All right, we're doing this quickly here.
Speaker C:Next thing here, Paul.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Whiskey and the Country Line.
Speaker B:That's a country song.
Speaker C:No, I made that up.
Speaker A:We got a real bond burner going over here, man.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:All right, Sam, next one.
Speaker C:A bottle and a Broken Heart.
Speaker B:Everything sounds like a country song song.
Speaker A:Country song.
Speaker C:No, I made that up.
Speaker C:Damn it.
Speaker C:All right, Paul, the Broken Land movie.
Speaker C:That is correct.
Speaker B:One for Paul.
Speaker C:Sam, this Sam.
Speaker C:If drinking don't kill me, her memory will.
Speaker A:Oh, man, you've designed this so well.
Speaker A:My sense of trust is gone.
Speaker A:Drinking don't kill me.
Speaker B:Oh, man.
Speaker B:Oh,.
Speaker A:All right, I'm gonna go.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go with song again.
Speaker C:That is correct.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:Paul, Broken Saddle Serenade made that up.
Speaker C:That is correct.
Speaker B:I'm out to him now.
Speaker B:All right, makes it all up.
Speaker C:Sam.
Speaker C:Lonely Are the Brave.
Speaker A:Movie.
Speaker C:That is correct.
Speaker B:It's one of my favorite movies of all his.
Speaker B:Kirk Douglas's favorite movie to make.
Speaker A:Is that the one where he's going up the hill, escape escaping the cops like at.
Speaker A:Steven Spielberg loves that movie.
Speaker B:Yeah, Walter Math House in it.
Speaker B:Yes, Good names in it.
Speaker B:Anyways, great movie, Paul.
Speaker C:Fire.
Speaker C:Firelight on the Prairie.
Speaker B:It sounds like a movie.
Speaker C:Nope, that is a made up title.
Speaker B:You gotta start writing some songs there, dude.
Speaker B:Or movies.
Speaker C:Sam.
Speaker C:The Carroll County Accident.
Speaker A:Carroll County Accident.
Speaker A:Made it up.
Speaker C:Nope, that is a song.
Speaker C:Damn it.
Speaker C:All right, is it score?
Speaker C:Two to one, Sam.
Speaker C:I think I got.
Speaker B:I thought I was up.
Speaker B:2 To 1.
Speaker C:Paul is up.
Speaker B:I think it's 2.
Speaker C:2.
Speaker B:I think it's.
Speaker B:All right, here we go.
Speaker C:Next one here is.
Speaker C:This is for Sam, right?
Speaker C:I losing my track here.
Speaker C:The Broken Land.
Speaker A:I think it's for Paul.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Okay, Paul.
Speaker C:Paul, the Broken Land.
Speaker B:That sounds like a movie.
Speaker C:That is a movie.
Speaker C:Ding, ding, ding, ding.
Speaker C:All right, we are gonna do a couple more here.
Speaker C:We need some separation.
Speaker C:Here we go.
Speaker C:Next one.
Speaker C:This Is for Sam.
Speaker C:Seven Spanish Angels.
Speaker B:Song.
Speaker C:That is correct.
Speaker B:Like three up, man.
Speaker C:Three.
Speaker C:All right, Next one here is for Paul.
Speaker C:The Lusty Men.
Speaker B:Nickname in high school.
Speaker B:The Lusty Man.
Speaker B:You gotta make that up.
Speaker B:That's too obvious.
Speaker C:No, that's a movie.
Speaker B:Fuck me.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker B:I gotta look these up.
Speaker A:Sam, I would like to point out to the audience really quickly.
Speaker A:I just realized that we're gonna use some clips.
Speaker A:I purposely spelled my name wrong and it's as Sam Cold.
Speaker A:My real name is Sam Cole.
Speaker A:Anyway.
Speaker A:All right, Sam really famous.
Speaker A:Just kidding.
Speaker B:Just notice that it's time.
Speaker C:Three to three here.
Speaker C:I think we should, like, take this maybe to.
Speaker C:Who gets to five first.
Speaker C:Maybe.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:The way this is going.
Speaker C:All right, here we go.
Speaker C:The Sam the Great Northfield Minnesota Raid.
Speaker A:Great Northfield Minnesota Raid movie.
Speaker C:That is correct.
Speaker A:I'm gonna bark like a dog every time I get a point.
Speaker C:All right, this is for Paul.
Speaker C:The girl who stole my Pickup.
Speaker B:That's a country song.
Speaker C:No, I made that up.
Speaker B:It should be a country song.
Speaker A:I would have said that's a country song.
Speaker A:That's a good trap, because that sounds like a country song.
Speaker A:Ridiculously so.
Speaker A:Everyone steals a pickup truck from everyone in country song.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:All right, this is for Sam.
Speaker C:The Long Road to Lubuk.
Speaker A:Is that L, U, B, B, O, C, K. It is Texas.
Speaker C:Lck.
Speaker C:Lck.
Speaker B:Lc.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:Song.
Speaker C:That's fake title.
Speaker B:Too many fake titles.
Speaker B:Too many fake titles.
Speaker B:All right, To Paul diluted the field with fake titles.
Speaker C:Amarillo by morning.
Speaker B:Amarillo by morning.
Speaker B:Golly, I gotta say.
Speaker B:That's a song.
Speaker C:That is a song.
Speaker C:It's four to four.
Speaker B:This could be the one.
Speaker C:All right, this is to Sam.
Speaker C:The stars fell on Henrietta.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker C:Oh, I think Paul knows.
Speaker B:No, he doesn't.
Speaker B:Sticking out actual stars.
Speaker B:Or stars jumping on Henrietta.
Speaker C:You have to win by two.
Speaker C:Or are we just gonna call it a five?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Past My Bedtime Song.
Speaker C:It's a movie.
Speaker B:Never heard of it.
Speaker A: You know, just like Willow in: Speaker A:He had the instinctual right answer, but he overthought it.
Speaker A:And I just pulled a willow.
Speaker C:So to Paul, Blue Eyes, Crying in the Rain.
Speaker B:That sounds like a song.
Speaker C:It is a song.
Speaker C:And finally we have have a winner with five.
Speaker C:Five to four.
Speaker C:Paul, congratulations.
Speaker C:You won the most pointless game we've ever had on Back to frame Rates.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker B:Almost went to extra innings.
Speaker C:It almost did.
Speaker A:That was actually.
Speaker A:That was fun.
Speaker A:I like that game.
Speaker A:It's hard.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, I. I researched the most obscure movie Titles I could find and songs that could be movies or.
Speaker C:And making up the.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker C:The titles was the most fun part.
Speaker A:It's a good thing you didn't pick Two Mules for Sister Sarah, because I would have gotten that in a second.
Speaker C:I avoided that one big time.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker B:Is that an Eastwood movie?
Speaker A:It's a Clint Eastwood.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:Everybody knows his movies.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Is there anything that you want to talk about that you saw in the past week or last couple weeks that you want to highlight?
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:On the theater or on.
Speaker C:On, on, on.
Speaker C:Vod.
Speaker A:I'll just mention really briefly the.
Speaker A:The new Bob Odenkirk movie, Normal, which I saw.
Speaker A:I went to the premiere for that.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:No joke.
Speaker A:I actually really liked it.
Speaker A:I thought it was hilarious.
Speaker A:Over the top, ultra violent.
Speaker A:I think you guys would be wildly entertained.
Speaker A:It is ridiculous.
Speaker A:Bonkers movie.
Speaker A:And Henry Winkler is a villain in it.
Speaker A:I mean, it's just like.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:If you like, like, like the John Wick movies or like nobody.
Speaker A:With Bob Odenkirk, it's ultra violent.
Speaker A:But the tonality is shock value.
Speaker A:Comedy.
Speaker A:And I was.
Speaker A:I, like.
Speaker A:I was really, really entertained.
Speaker A:Like, genuinely entertained.
Speaker B:That's interesting.
Speaker C:All right, good.
Speaker B:Anything I gotta say?
Speaker C:When does that come out?
Speaker C:Is that out now?
Speaker A:April, I think it comes out tomorrow or.
Speaker A:Yeah, either tomorrow or the next week, but it's.
Speaker A:It's almost out.
Speaker C:Out the April 17th.
Speaker C:That's when.
Speaker A:And I don't know what its theatrical distribution is.
Speaker A:I'm not quite sure, but it's coming out somewhere, I think.
Speaker A:Yeah, great.
Speaker B:Great.
Speaker B:I was just say, I, I.
Speaker B:Last weekend I emceed the New Bedford Film Festival, the third annual New Bedford Film Festival.
Speaker B:I didn't see you guys at.
Speaker A:I would go if I was there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I go to New Bedford once a year.
Speaker C:I have.
Speaker C:I know people that do the New Bedford half marathon.
Speaker C:So I will go and support some friends that run that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Anyway, it's a.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It is a remarkable city.
Speaker B:It's a lot of artistic presence there.
Speaker B:But anyway, I enjoyed the hell out of that.
Speaker B:Saw so many good movies.
Speaker B:One of the films I was in was in three.
Speaker B:Go figure.
Speaker B:One.
Speaker B:Best Horror short.
Speaker C:Nice.
Speaker B:I played it.
Speaker B:I played an old Jew who knew.
Speaker C:Can you tell us the title of it?
Speaker B:Gimme G I M M E. It's.
Speaker B:It's a.
Speaker B:It's a.
Speaker B:It's a Hanukkah Christmas horror movie movie.
Speaker C:Oh, wonderful.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's 15 minutes or so.
Speaker B:But I played an old Jew work with Stephen Schloss, who's a horror filmmaker.
Speaker B:He does a lot of commercials too, but he's a horror filmmaker and he makes some incredible, incredible stuff.
Speaker B:Very violent.
Speaker B:He loves gore.
Speaker B:And it was, it was fun to make.
Speaker B:So it was just, it was a good time.
Speaker B:I got another movie.
Speaker B:I got one scene in this movie that's coming out nationwide called watching Mr. Pearson.
Speaker B:It's about an old actor, actor who's got Alzheimer's.
Speaker B:And it's his caretaker looking after him and he's.
Speaker B:He's slowly losing his mind and it's kind of a.
Speaker B:It's a sad movie because he gets worse and worse.
Speaker B:And I have one scene and I'm playing as Taylor, but I gotta go see, I'm gonna go see it down the Cape.
Speaker B:It's playing at Somerville Theater.
Speaker B:And Sunday it's New York, Louisiana.
Speaker B:It's all, it's all over the place, so it should be good.
Speaker B:It's in again.
Speaker B:It's an indie film.
Speaker B:That's the future I think of movies is indie film film.
Speaker B:People who can get enough money to make a movie doesn't have to be big blockbuster.
Speaker B:It doesn't have to be an Avatar, you know, Marvel movie.
Speaker B:It can be a movie just about people.
Speaker B:And I miss that.
Speaker B:So I'm glad to be part of movies to bring that back there.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:I'm climbing off my soapbox now.
Speaker C:I want to mention since we.
Speaker C:We plugged a few things that we had watched or were in, I have not been in anything in a while, but I finished season three of Shrinking is a show that I've been watching, which I incredible show.
Speaker C:Finished that recently.
Speaker C:And this as I.
Speaker C:It was funny early on in our podcast, me and Ellie used to talk about shrinking, how we love the show, but it's taken on a whole another level for me.
Speaker C:I'm in another place in my life these days.
Speaker C:And this season absolutely destroyed me emotionally, so I won't have to get into that.
Speaker C:But I think this is maybe one of my favorite shows of all time.
Speaker C:It's supposed to be status and it's, it's every episode just absolutely wrecks me.
Speaker C:I've.
Speaker C:I, I more than half the episodes.
Speaker C:I was bawling during them.
Speaker C:That's how my emotional state is these days.
Speaker C:But yeah, it's been it.
Speaker C:But it was the great experience watching.
Speaker C:It's very cathartic watching this because I find myself relating to some of the characters more than ever in this.
Speaker C:I see myself in some of the main characters.
Speaker A:And yeah, it's Harrison Ford gives some just Some unbelievably like unbelievable.
Speaker C:Yeah, I hated Harrison Ford in the first couple episodes.
Speaker C:I felt like, oh my God, all we need is more old curmudgeony Harrison Ford.
Speaker C:But he a complete 180 on him and now I love him so much.
Speaker C:I think it's maybe one of his greatest achievements ever in the show.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's so interesting.
Speaker C:So authentic and transparent.
Speaker C:Like I feel like.
Speaker C:And I listened to him in an interview I on Was it Fresh Air a couple weeks ago and talking about him and working with Michael J.
Speaker C:Fox on this because he's a character that has Parkinson's in it.
Speaker C:And like it was just.
Speaker C:Just amazing.
Speaker B:Yeah, I saw the.
Speaker B:I saw the first two episodes and it's the same thing.
Speaker B:I was like he's grouchy.
Speaker B:And then I never watch it again.
Speaker C:I had to push through those first two episodes because Jason Siegel was like, oh, he's playing this.
Speaker C:He's playing what Jason Siegel does.
Speaker C:But it just hit me so hard where.
Speaker C:Where it does go.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:But anyways, so there's that.
Speaker C:The other thing I'll just mention is I did watch this comedy called Fakam hall which was on hbo.
Speaker C:Max which.
Speaker C:Have you heard of this either view?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker C:It is basically a parody of kind of like movie shows like the Crown or Downton Abbey.
Speaker C: British high society in like: Speaker C:It is hysterical.
Speaker C:And I don't know if either of you have ever watched these shows like Downton Abbey or the Crown.
Speaker C:I. I did watch these for a period of my life.
Speaker C:And this lampoons it.
Speaker C:This is a movie that it's.
Speaker C:That it's a parody of those types of shows.
Speaker A:That sounds awesome actually.
Speaker C:So funny.
Speaker C:And it's one.
Speaker C:It's like the Zucker Brothers type of joke every five seconds.
Speaker C:Really?
Speaker C:It is so good.
Speaker C:Is one of the best I've ever seen.
Speaker C:So if you like those like shows like that are like the high Society where everybody is.
Speaker C:Is like oh, His Lordship and things like that.
Speaker C:It is absolutely taking everything down a notch.
Speaker C:Taking the piss out of all those shows.
Speaker C:I watched this last night.
Speaker C:I don't have anything really script I was gonna say about.
Speaker C:I just want to.
Speaker C:Cannot recommend it enough.
Speaker C:It's on HBO right now.
Speaker C:It is so funny.
Speaker C:I loved it.
Speaker B:Is it a movie or is it a streaming movie?
Speaker C:It's a 90 minute movie.
Speaker C: I started at like: Speaker C:I'll just watch a few minutes of it.
Speaker C:I got sucked in and go to bed until 1:00 clock at night, which is not something I should do.
Speaker C:But it was so fun, funny.
Speaker C:So, yeah, I recommend it.
Speaker C:Check it out.
Speaker B:Feels like one o' clock now.
Speaker C:Yeah, I will say.
Speaker A:I'll say really quick, too.
Speaker A:I'm doing John Trafton's this Movie Saved My Life podcast tomorrow, so I'll definitely plug back to the frame rate he is doing.
Speaker A:Would you believe it?
Speaker A:A Spielberg retrospective.
Speaker C:So in there, I've done that.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:So I am.
Speaker A:I'm already well prepared for that because I know those films.
Speaker A:Actually, I.
Speaker A: One of the movies is: Speaker A:So I'm watching it today, tonight.
Speaker C: I love: Speaker B:I thought it was pretty funny.
Speaker B:I know it didn't do well and it was, you know,.
Speaker C:Tell John, you know, I'm around.
Speaker A:I definitely will.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I'll make sure to plug back to the frame rate because I love that we're doing like new episodes once in a while.
Speaker A:Like, I love this show.
Speaker A:So it's good to be here.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker B:Okay, boys and girls.
Speaker C:Paul, you look tired.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's past.
Speaker B:I had a job today.
Speaker B:I did.
Speaker B:I did live theater today.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:I would just like to prove that, you know, because it's only 6:30pm in California and it's.
Speaker A:It's 6, 7 3, 8.
Speaker A:It's 9:30, 9:30pm for you guys.
Speaker A:That is further proof that the world is round to all you flat Earthers out there.
Speaker A:So just.
Speaker A:Just want to make.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker C:One last thing is, is there anything you want to tell people if they want to find you to hire you as.
Speaker C:As movie, their commercial, their anything?
Speaker B:Yeah, it's just Paul karian.com P A U L K A N D A.
Speaker C:R Paul Kardashian dot com.
Speaker C:Got it.
Speaker C:All right, we'll put in the show notes and.
Speaker C:And that's our show.
Speaker A:And Paul, when I'm more established and have.
Speaker A:Have more money, we'll do Sinister.
Speaker A:We'll do Sinister Sands.
Speaker A:I actually really like that idea.
Speaker A:It just literally, like, it's.
Speaker A:It's too big a budget to start with.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:I can't get that money at the moment.
Speaker B:Time.
Speaker B:Yeah, we could do it at Horse Neck.
Speaker A:Yeah, we could.
Speaker A:We could.
Speaker A:It'd be a sinister Horse Neck.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:We've got a lot of beaches around here.
Speaker B:We could do it.
Speaker B:But that's true.
Speaker B:That's true, that's true.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:All right, gentlemen, that is.
Speaker C:I'm gonna wrap up.
Speaker C:That is our show for this week.
Speaker C:Back to the Frame Rate as part of the Weston Media Podcast Network.
Speaker C:Thanks to our to Brian Ellsworth for our show opening.
Speaker C:On behalf of all of us, we bid you farewell from the fall shelter.
Speaker C:If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe, leave a rating review on Apple Podcast Spot or your favorite podcast platform.
Speaker C:You will always find our episodes@backtotheframeright.com thank you again, Paul for joining us tonight.
Speaker C:This is the end of our transmission back to the Frame Rate signing off.
Speaker C:Where's our outro?
Speaker C:There it is.
Speaker A:Want you to know it's over.
Speaker B:Well,.
Speaker C:Bye.
