Twisters (2024): Is This the Perfect Summer Blockbuster We’ve Been Waiting For?

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In the dying embers of human existence, as the asteroid, a

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behemoth the size of Texas, hurtles relentlessly toward Earth, the

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world braces for an apocalyptic end.

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Deep beneath the bunker, a refuge plunges into the bowels of the Earth.

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Here the chosen gather, their purpose clear, to preserve the

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very soul of our civilization.

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The 35 and 70 millimeter prints that encapsulate the magic, the emotion,

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and the dreams of generations past.

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These masterpieces, each frame a testament to the human spirit, are

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carefully cataloged and cradled in the cavernous confines of the bunker.

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Perhaps there was room for more.

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For friends and family yearning for salvation, but sacrifices must be made.

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The movie nerds stand united, the keepers of a flame, promising a future where the

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art of storytelling endures, transcending the boundaries of time and space.

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God help us all.

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I am Nathan Shurer and accompanying me.

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Are my extraordinary movie mavens, Brianna Butterworth and Sam Cole.

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Welcome to the show.

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I'm doing well.

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We just saw each other, Sam.

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You were in my studio.

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That's true.

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It seems like.

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That is very true.

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Moments ago in the, in the long path of time, it was, was but a moment.

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We we, so we are here.

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I don't have a question this week because we are on our, I would

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call it like our summer schedule.

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I, I had to turn this episode around really fast because two days ago we,

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we recorded our, our Twister episode.

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Later that night, we went out and saw this movie that we're

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talking about today, Twisters.

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So this is quite an exhausting schedule.

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So it's worth it.

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I hope everyone out there really appreciates what we do for them.

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You know, we are laying it out on the line here for you, the

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people, the movie fanatics that

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it's a hard life to go see movies.

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It is, you know, you

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could you could refer to it as a whirlwind schedule.

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I'm sorry, everyone,

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but yeah, so we watched twisters this past weekend in IMAX.

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We could like feel those tornadoes like in our laps,

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but I'm excited to talk about this movie with you before we do.

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I have a plot synopsis.

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A trailer for this movie, if I can find it here.

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Here's why.

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Plot Synopi

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haunted by the devastating encounter with a tornado.

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Kate Cooper gets lured back to the open planes by her friend Javi to test

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a groundbreaking new tracking system.

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She soon crosses paths with Tyler Owens, a charming but reckless

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social media superstar who thrives on posting his storm chasing adventures.

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As storm season intensifies, Kate, Tyler, and their competing teams find themselves

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in a fight for their lives as multiple systems converge over central Oklahoma.

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Dun dun dun!

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And here is a little bit of the trailer for Twisters.

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Guys, whatever's in there, it's big and it's moving fast.

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Drive!

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Go!

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Guys, we gotta get out of here!

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Twisters!

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It's Tyler Owens.

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Calls himself the

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Tornado Wrangler.

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If you feel it, TRACE IT!

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Trace that!

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I said, if you feel it, TRACE IT!

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Oh, she's perfect!

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She's gorgeous!

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You thought you could destroy a tornado.

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We never had a chance.

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You want one?

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You don't face your fears,

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you ride em.

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You ride em.

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Amazing.

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So, there you have it.

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We are gonna get a little bit of the movie facts.

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Perhaps.

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Sam, do you have some movie facts for us?

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Indeed, I do.

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I know we did not have a lot of time to put, nobody had time to prep for

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this episode because we just, we just, it feels like we just got out of the theater.

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We did just recently get out of the theater, but I do

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have some movie facts here.

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Yeah.

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Twisters is a 2024 American disaster film directed by Lee Isaac Chung.

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From a screenplay by Mark L.

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Smith based on a story by Joseph Kaczynski, serving as a

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standalone sequel to Twister.

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The 1996 film, sorry the film, it's hilarious because it's a sequel.

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The film stars Daisy Edgar Jones, Glenn Powell, Anthony Ramos, Brendan

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Pereira, Maura Tierney and Sasha Lane.

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And this was directed by Lee Isaac Chung, who I believe is from Arkansas.

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So is no stranger to the type of landscape present in the film screenplay by Mark L.

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Smith.

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It's cinematography was actually by Dan Mendel, who was the he's a veteran in the

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industry.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Right.

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Comes to mind immediately.

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J.

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J.

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Abrams, both the force awakens and the rise of Skywalker.

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Did a lot of Tony Scott

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films.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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I'm

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sorry.

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Go ahead.

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No.

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And so it it came out cinema world, Lester square, July 8th, 2024, and July 19th,

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2024 in the United States and had a very successful above industry expectations,

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opening weekend, domestic 80 million.

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But Budget was 155 to 200 million and box office so far at present is 124 million

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and that's worldwide in its first weekend.

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So it is doing well.

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I know this was shot in Oklahoma, I believe introducing a new

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generation of storm chasers.

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It is not really connected to the first movie in characters.

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It's just its own like standalone film in the same twisters universe 30 years later.

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But yeah, if anything to add to that or thoughts or,

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Not really.

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I mean, I just was looking at the overall cast here.

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We talked about you know, Lee, Lee, Isaac Chung, you know, it

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seems like an interesting choice.

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I know he did the, a movie that kind of put them on the map on in 2020 Minari.

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I have not seen it, but after this, I kind of want to see it really soon.

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As in, I

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haven't seen it.

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I would like to see it.

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Haven't seen it.

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Yeah.

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It got,

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this is the kind of movie.

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Yeah, it got great reviews.

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But Twisters, I think is the kind of movie that can like set up your career.

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So it feels like a weird move, but I also think this might be the kind of movie that

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just now he makes movies like Twisters.

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Now he makes movie star vehicles.

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He might.

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Yeah.

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You know, what's interesting is the principal photography for budgetary

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reasons was actually supposed to start outside Atlanta, Georgia, but

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instead they commenced in May, 2023 in Oklahoma, where the story takes place.

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Thank.

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God, they did that because I don't think Atlanta, Georgia would, could

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do the backdrop of Oklahoma justice.

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There's space and fields, but it would, there'd be a different feel to it.

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So that was a good move.

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I want to also, you mentioned some of the cast that was in this

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Daisy Daisy Edgar Jones, who I really was not familiar with before this.

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I, I have heard about where the crawdad sing.

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I have heard nothing but horrible things about things about it.

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And it's one of those movies that my, that my wife says, can we sit

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down and watch this movie some night?

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Mike?

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No.

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So maybe I have, I've not seen it.

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So I should not pass judgment.

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I think that movie to make it better should have like an

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opening James Bond style song where it's like the James Bond visuals.

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Like what's the name of it?

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Where the crow dads sing.

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It's just

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like where the crowd and sing.

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Then it would be, that would help the film.

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And there's some interesting star power in, in character.

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I mean, of course, Glenn Powell, who, you know, is automatic a list

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right now, but, you know, of course.

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More tyranny who, you know, we just saw her.

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I totally forgot.

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We just saw her in insomnia a couple months ago.

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She was in that.

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And of course in the iron claw saw a couple months ago as well.

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Had a long career on ER for a while in news radio, but the, the cast that's on

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in these tornado crews is fascinating.

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Of course, Anthony Ramos, famous for Hamilton in the Heights dumb money.

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No, we got some also great, you know, we had, you know, what's in this, the new

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Superman, I didn't even recognize him.

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I was going through the cast afterwards.

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You got David Coren sweat playing Scott, who was hobby's

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business partner, unrecognizable.

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And, but you just look at that jawline and you know why he's cast a Superman.

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So it's, it's, it is really interesting casting.

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She'll

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lean too.

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She's great.

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It was great to see her and all her drone action.

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You've got was it a Tundi, Adam Impey, who is the lead singer of

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TV on the radio in this as well, which is just fascinating casting and Katie

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O'Brien, who is in my still my favorite movie of the year, Love, Lies, Bleeding,

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she plays Danny, who's the mechanic on Tyler's crew and one other casting

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note, one of Katie's original crew members is Kiernan Shipka, who I can't

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wait for her career to really explode.

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She's all grown up.

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She is Sally Draper from Mad Men.

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And she was in a movie.

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I really enjoyed.

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I think at the end of last year, I it was, it was a horror time travel movie.

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I'm blanking on it right now, but if you look up totally

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killer, totally killer.

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Yes.

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I really liked her and totally killer.

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So I'm going to see

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long legs this week.

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She's in long legs.

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So for that, yeah.

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So great cast all around, right up and down the whole line

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of card for, for this movie, but yeah, that's what I wanted to say.

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Awesome.

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Yeah.

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I don't have any, really any other Notes or trivia from this.

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It's too fresh to me.

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I haven't really had time to do that kind of deep dive into this.

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I watched a little bit of the behind the scenes making of this, but nothing

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too deep, but I guess we can kind of get into our thoughts on this.

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Yeah.

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Are we ready

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for

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that?

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Yeah.

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Twist one quick thing.

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Twisters is actually shot on 35 millimeter film, which is pretty cool.

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Nice.

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After receiving support from Spielberg and Mendel with the Panavision XL

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cameras and handheld, RE 435S and 235S.

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Interesting.

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Great.

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I don't know that it looks like it.

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I don't know.

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I couldn't tell if it looks like it or if that's the resolution

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at the IMAX that we were at.

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I was mentioning in the earlier words, the screen is like, maybe though.

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I don't know.

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All right.

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Well did I say I, I am going first already.

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All

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right.

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All right.

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Here we go.

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So,

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so last week I sat in this chair to the people that listened to this,

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at least it was only a few days ago for us, but last week I sat in this

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chair and I listed off several of my issues with the 1996 film Twister.

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By the way, a film that I enjoy but don't love, and I talked about one,

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one, you know, uncharismatic leading male in that movie, and two, too

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many side background characters.

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Three, paper thin character development, especially with the Paxton character

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and the antagonist Jonas Miller.

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And four, I didn't feel like the imminent danger with the tornadoes, it was

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inconsistent and also very unrealistic.

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And I'm here to say that Twisters fixes every one of those problems for me.

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This is one of the best action films for me that I've seen in a long time because,

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you know, it hits so many quadrants.

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Number one, you like hot guys, check.

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You like hot women?

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Check.

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You like action?

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Check.

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You like romance?

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Check it reaches both YouTube audience in the country music, music audience.

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Check you like sharp, really reaches the country music on you.

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You like sharp, funny dialogues, you know, by wildly outrageous character

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actors, check plus they brought in a more, a more diverse cast that didn't

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seem forced setting and they set it in America's heartland, including

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the lead singer of alternative rock band TV and the radio check.

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Also.

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Where Twister, you know, I thought was both a dark and dour film and look and

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in tone, twisters is bright and upbeat, and even with the harrowing deaths.

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In the beginning, spoiler, you know, we should mention

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that we are a spoiler podcast.

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This film is fun with a kinetic energy throughout.

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It is so perfectly assembled and I'm certain it was produced

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by AI just analyzing algorithms for the entire country.

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Yes.

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I loved this movie.

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And not only lived up to the hype, it exceeded it.

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I think Glenn Powell is now a full fledged A lister.

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He nailed this role in this movie.

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The chemistry of the three leads I think is great.

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I was unfamiliar with Daisy Edgar Jones before this, but

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I thought she did a great job.

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Anthony Ramos as well in this.

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The three leads are all carrying this buried down trauma that I thought

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was portrayed very well as well.

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I like that the film uses our knowledge of the previous films, but in our expectation

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of it, but it uses it against us.

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You've got these rival storm chasers, the corporate funded group, and the

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wild hell raising hippies, which is very much like the first film.

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So the iconography is similar in this film and we begin to assign expectations

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to the characters like this is going to be the Bill Paxton person, this

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is going to be the Helen Hunt person.

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This is going to be the Philip Seymour Hoffman person.

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And so on.

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These are the good guys.

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These are the obnoxious douchey ones, but then the film does something completely

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different and turns everything on its head halfway, which I did not expect.

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I also went in with some concerns because the original Twister, you

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know, story beats I, I was worried it was going to start duplicating that.

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And this may would try to be like a direct sequel where Helen Hunn and Bill

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Paxton's kids, we're, we're there, we're going to follow them in the Twister

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was gonna like try to seek revenge.

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We're gonna be in like a Jaws, the revenge territory.

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Maybe the Twister was gonna follow Kate up to New York and

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try to chase her down there.

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Something really stupid.

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I'm glad I did not do that.

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I don't know, but even though You know, I, I did have some problems with the last

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15 minutes of this movie and it, it didn't fully stick the landing at the very end.

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It gets a little ridiculous, but it did not hurt enough.

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Were this, were enough for me to, to, to not love this film, but it didn't,

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but anyways, that that's all I have to say, but I think this is a perfect.

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Summer blockbuster.

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This is exactly what I wanted this summer.

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I, there's, that's all I have to say.

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So this is a, I would give this a 4.

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5.

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Wow.

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That's my rating.

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So, there you go.

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I, I've gushed enough.

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That's amazing.

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Yeah.

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I gotta follow that, huh?

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Mm hmm.

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Okay.

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I really liked this movie.

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I don't think I loved it as much as you love it, but I had a great time.

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As you all know, I have been eagerly anticipating this movie.

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The trailer got me hype and.

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I'm a recent convert to the original Twister film.

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I hadn't seen it until just a few months ago.

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I watched it.

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I fell in love with it.

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I had zero expectations of the movie.

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And it came, comes out as like, one of my top movies.

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It's a four and a half for me.

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Huge fan.

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I think it's magic and it, it hits all the right beats.

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Twisters.

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2024 is a very competent movie.

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You are right.

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It's the perfect summer blockbuster.

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It doesn't do anything wrong.

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I also don't think it takes any chances.

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It has some interesting subversions of our expectations, but I think they

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almost do that so that they don't get criticized with being a copy

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and paste of the original 90s film.

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Because otherwise it's, it's very similar.

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The original twister.

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Felt new.

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It felt like they were trying different things with the love triangle with the

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practical effects, which of course, you know, I sort of gushed over the

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practical effects in our last episode.

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I know there's also an ass load of CGI in these movies, but they're

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blended a little more beautifully for me in the last film and our

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CGI has come a long way since then.

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And these twisters look very good.

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But I just think in its It's aimed to be so perfect it, it

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really doesn't take any leaps.

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And I found the whole thing falling a little bit flat for me.

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There are two things that I'm pretty bored with in the movies at this point.

Bee: 00:18:58

One are gigantic CGI town crushing set pieces.

Bee: 00:19:04

In the original Twister, everyone that falls victim to a tornado, we

Bee: 00:19:08

know we have an attachment to them.

Bee: 00:19:11

We have seen how many cities wiped out in the last 10 years and rebuilt and wiped

Bee: 00:19:16

out again and rebuilt and wiped out again.

Bee: 00:19:18

The final set piece just really didn't do it for me here.

Bee: 00:19:22

And then the other issue I have with this movie and the thing that I'm

Bee: 00:19:25

just bored with in movies in general, we see it a lot in the horror genre

Bee: 00:19:28

right now, this is coming up a lot.

Bee: 00:19:31

Our internal trauma as the antagonist.

Bee: 00:19:34

This is the thing that our characters, they always have

Bee: 00:19:37

to fight their own trauma.

Bee: 00:19:39

And that is the catalyst for any plot direction or movement in the story.

Bee: 00:19:42

And that does just suck out some joy you know, and, and some passion for it.

Bee: 00:19:47

And granted that.

Bee: 00:19:48

Definitely exists in the original Twister.

Bee: 00:19:51

You know, Joe's family was literally ripped apart by a tornado, but it just

Bee: 00:19:57

felt like the motivations were a little bit different or addressed a little bit

Bee: 00:20:00

earlier on and, and definitely didn't play as much of a role for as many of

Bee: 00:20:05

the characters in Twister as it does now.

Bee: 00:20:08

So.

Bee: 00:20:09

It fell a little flat.

Bee: 00:20:10

I thought it was really enjoyable.

Bee: 00:20:11

It is a perfect popcorn movie.

Bee: 00:20:13

I can sit there, have a great time.

Bee: 00:20:14

Glenn Powell looks amazing on screen.

Bee: 00:20:17

Daisy Edgar Jones, they had incredible chemistry.

Bee: 00:20:20

It was way more diverse.

Bee: 00:20:22

The casting I thought was, even though there's great casting in

Bee: 00:20:24

Twister, I did think this was better.

Bee: 00:20:25

Better, more robust, more well rounded and the characters really

Bee: 00:20:29

felt like they had a purpose.

Bee: 00:20:30

They didn't just feel like the actors who happened to give them

Bee: 00:20:33

a little bit more dimension.

Bee: 00:20:34

It felt like that was intentional and fleshed out in the

Bee: 00:20:36

script, which I really liked.

Bee: 00:20:38

It was funny.

Bee: 00:20:39

It could be really funny.

Bee: 00:20:40

It was a little too patriotic for me, but it did take place in Oklahoma, so

Bee: 00:20:44

it's hard to, to knock it down for that.

Bee: 00:20:47

You know it wasn't steak and eggs.

Bee: 00:20:48

It was a rodeo.

Bee: 00:20:49

Okay.

Bee: 00:20:50

Okay.

Bee: 00:20:50

But yeah, I liked it.

Bee: 00:20:52

I don't want to sound too cool on it.

Bee: 00:20:53

I definitely had a really enjoyable time.

Bee: 00:20:57

It just felt like another action blockbuster for me.

Bee: 00:21:01

It's okay.

Bee: 00:21:01

I give it like a three and a half.

Nathan: 00:21:05

All right.

Nathan: 00:21:07

Good take.

Bee: 00:21:08

Is it?

Bee: 00:21:09

I don't know.

Sam: 00:21:10

So, I think you guys both have really good points and I, it's, it's interesting

Sam: 00:21:16

cause, cause one aspect that I agree with Nathan is, is I do feel that surprisingly

Sam: 00:21:22

the characters and their, you know, dialogue and the chemistry Between the two

Sam: 00:21:29

of them was really, really, really good.

Sam: 00:21:31

I thought they, I thought the human element was strong.

Sam: 00:21:34

And the human element and the characters and their interaction was oddly enough,

Sam: 00:21:39

interesting left the best part of this film, whereas I felt the action and the

Sam: 00:21:44

twisters themselves and the set pieces, I definitely agree with B that it was more

Sam: 00:21:49

sort of standard CGI fully competent, but I did not have a sense of with, I

Sam: 00:21:55

will say there is an, is, and it's an opening scene where a massive twister

Sam: 00:22:01

is hidden by the fog and the wind.

Sam: 00:22:03

And I thought that was suspenseful and well done in general, I feel sort of like

Sam: 00:22:07

the set pieces in this film are solid, but they're more Sort of perfunctory.

Sam: 00:22:13

I see the thing for me is I love the 1996 Twister and I actually

Sam: 00:22:17

really like Bill Paxton in it.

Sam: 00:22:18

I think he's like perfect for that movie.

Sam: 00:22:20

I just, he just fits like I'm a Bill Paxton fan.

Sam: 00:22:24

So I'll say that Yeah, so Lee Isaac Chung does a great job with

Sam: 00:22:26

characters and their chemistry.

Sam: 00:22:27

The human side of this film is surprisingly developed.

Sam: 00:22:30

When it comes to the action, he is more than competent, yet it is perfunctory and

Sam: 00:22:34

random, set pieces just arriving here and there, scattershot, seemingly on a whim.

Sam: 00:22:39

The first film, the original Twister, Twister, excuse me, opens with this

Sam: 00:22:44

terrific menacing music by Mark Mancista and the Twister logo tumbles across

Sam: 00:22:50

the dark screen as the individual letters are blown about in a dark wind.

Sam: 00:22:55

And this is the opening.

Sam: 00:22:55

Opening title of the first film.

Sam: 00:22:57

The new film opens more like a TV movie where the title twisters just

Sam: 00:23:01

appears at an inopportune moment, appearing over a simple shot of our

Sam: 00:23:05

main character standing in a field.

Sam: 00:23:08

It has this moments and is perhaps worth a second viewing building up suspense

Sam: 00:23:12

and milking moments for me did not.

Sam: 00:23:17

quite feel like this director's forte.

Sam: 00:23:19

I feel like he had a really good handle on the human elements, but I

Sam: 00:23:23

feel like the scale, I did not feel like I have been to Oklahoma and it

Sam: 00:23:29

is a huge place with vast open skies.

Sam: 00:23:32

And you feel like you're exposed to the sky.

Sam: 00:23:35

And I feel like that sense of the landscape in the first film, in Yon De

Sam: 00:23:40

Bah, there's these wide shots of like we push in on Helen Hunt and build.

Sam: 00:23:44

Paxton arguing in a truck and a plane goes by and it's this

Sam: 00:23:48

massive wide coordinated shot.

Sam: 00:23:50

There's this spectacular photography on the first film and this like, and the

Sam: 00:23:54

cinematography in the first movie I love.

Sam: 00:23:57

Whereas the second movie does a good job and the special effects look realistic.

Sam: 00:24:02

But I, it's funny in this day and age, we now have access to all these like 1996

Sam: 00:24:10

original are just somehow more Awesome.

Sam: 00:24:13

I have a personal bias because that, that movie, when it came out, you bring

Sam: 00:24:17

a good point B about the special effects.

Sam: 00:24:19

We'd never seen anything like that in 1996.

Sam: 00:24:23

Like I remember just being blown away and this movie is good, but

Sam: 00:24:27

it comes out in a time where.

Sam: 00:24:29

We've seen massive destruction on an epic scale over and over and over again.

Sam: 00:24:33

And what was missing in this film, in the first film, the tornadoes were like

Sam: 00:24:39

characters like the shark and jaws.

Sam: 00:24:41

It was like hinted that there's this godly menacing presence in the sky.

Sam: 00:24:45

And in this movie, they were just weather, which they are, but a little

Sam: 00:24:51

bit of that epicness I felt was missing, but overall I enjoyed it.

Sam: 00:24:54

I thought Glenn Powell was excellent.

Sam: 00:24:56

I, I mean, I liked everyone in the film.

Sam: 00:24:59

And I would, I mean, I would give it a solid, like it's, it's not bad.

Sam: 00:25:03

It's not great.

Sam: 00:25:04

I put it right in the middle at three stars.

Nathan: 00:25:07

This is interesting because I was the, the biggest critic of the first

Nathan: 00:25:11

film and the most skeptical heading in and I ended up loving it the most.

Nathan: 00:25:15

It sounds like I

Sam: 00:25:18

love that first film.

Sam: 00:25:19

I have a real thing.

Sam: 00:25:20

I just, that experience was amazing.

Sam: 00:25:22

I hear you though.

Sam: 00:25:22

Yeah.

Bee: 00:25:23

I think this sort of comes down to how much of a.

Bee: 00:25:27

At least for me, like, I'm such a sucker for that Spielberg ian kind of, like,

Sam: 00:25:33

Yes!

Bee: 00:25:34

Sense of awe, sense of wonder, that, like, like, very childlike

Bee: 00:25:39

perspective and, and hopeful storytelling.

Bee: 00:25:43

It's a little soft.

Bee: 00:25:44

It's, it's very, like, fairy tale esque.

Bee: 00:25:45

Yes,

Sam: 00:25:46

there's, like, wonder and terror and that, you know, like,

Sam: 00:25:49

Aunt Meg is very Spielberg ian.

Sam: 00:25:51

Yeah.

Sam: 00:25:52

It's got that, it has that energy.

Sam: 00:25:55

This movie was like, I was, I liked the diverse cast and the new characters.

Sam: 00:25:58

Like I liked the characters.

Sam: 00:26:00

I just felt that the, the scale of the movie around them felt a little like

Sam: 00:26:06

the mood, it felt a little shrunken.

Sam: 00:26:08

Whereas I wanted to feel that grandiose feeling.

Nathan: 00:26:12

I mean, I agree that some of that magic.

Nathan: 00:26:16

That like touch Spielberg Magic is not, it's not in this, this is a much more like

Nathan: 00:26:23

scientific, like I said, I really feel like AI algorithms designed this movie to

Nathan: 00:26:30

please the most amount of people possible.

Nathan: 00:26:33

It has that I hear that.

Nathan: 00:26:35

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:26:35

That's a good deal.

Nathan: 00:26:35

Totally.

Nathan: 00:26:36

I hear that.

Nathan: 00:26:36

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:26:38

, yeah, it worked for me, which is not.

Nathan: 00:26:40

Typical.

Nathan: 00:26:41

I, I don't usually.

Nathan: 00:26:43

And I just feel

Sam: 00:26:44

like even though, even though I, I totally agree, B, like I found the last

Sam: 00:26:47

set piece very underwhelming except for some like visual, like cool moments.

Sam: 00:26:53

But there were some in the middle, like there's when they're going through a

Sam: 00:26:56

field and it's It's the what do you call it, the wind turbines and one of

Sam: 00:27:00

them like flicks off and like hits you.

Sam: 00:27:01

Yes.

Sam: 00:27:02

That was kind of cool.

Sam: 00:27:03

I like that stuff.

Sam: 00:27:04

Yeah.

Bee: 00:27:04

I liked seeing inside the tornado.

Bee: 00:27:06

That was somewhere we haven't been.

Bee: 00:27:08

I thought that was an interesting experience.

Bee: 00:27:09

It

Sam: 00:27:10

is not without good intentions.

Sam: 00:27:11

Action.

Sam: 00:27:12

Like it's there.

Sam: 00:27:12

It's good.

Sam: 00:27:13

It's fine.

Sam: 00:27:14

I'm just, I was not just

Bee: 00:27:15

seen it before.

Sam: 00:27:16

Yeah, exactly.

Sam: 00:27:17

I just wasn't like wowed by it.

Sam: 00:27:21

And I did love the cast.

Sam: 00:27:23

And if, and if, if that script and that cast was married with like just

Sam: 00:27:28

the, a more wowier scope for the action or the it's, it's what it is.

Sam: 00:27:32

It's like, what's funny is the scale of twisters is huge.

Sam: 00:27:35

I mean, like the tornado, like catches fire in like an oil refinery.

Sam: 00:27:39

Like it's, it's insane.

Sam: 00:27:41

You know what I mean?

Sam: 00:27:42

But, but it's the way I feel like to me, what it was is a lot of set pieces

Sam: 00:27:47

in this movie that throughout them, as they're occurring, they're great, but

Sam: 00:27:51

I didn't feel the buildup of suspense.

Sam: 00:27:54

Like in the first film, there's a scene where like Philip Seymour Hoffman

Sam: 00:27:57

walks outside and then it cuts to some character dialogue in a bar and it cuts

Sam: 00:28:01

back to Philip Seymour Hoffman and the sky is green And darn, he's like going

Sam: 00:28:06

green and Bill Paxson is like greenage.

Sam: 00:28:08

And it's like, you feel like, Oh, a tornado is coming.

Sam: 00:28:11

Whereas this film, the tornadoes were spectacular.

Sam: 00:28:14

The effects weren't bad, but, but the scenes would arrive more

Sam: 00:28:18

perfunctory kind of like at the rodeo.

Sam: 00:28:21

It's like, there's a simple blowing of wind and it just

Sam: 00:28:23

starts, but I, I didn't feel like it could have been more suspense.

Sam: 00:28:28

I feel like the suspense could have been more milked in this film.

Bee: 00:28:31

I think, I think two, two things that sort of get to what you're talking

Bee: 00:28:36

about, where my frustrations of the movie are one, any sort of like Spielberg

Bee: 00:28:40

magic or magical realism, that feeling that happens in a movie of his, they

Bee: 00:28:45

just put into Daisy Edgar Jones and made her like a Manic Pixie nightmare.

Bee: 00:28:51

So I liked her character, but this whole like dandelion picking, I can

Bee: 00:28:55

tell when tornadoes are like, all right.

Bee: 00:28:58

And then the other thing is, I do think they sacrificed.

Bee: 00:29:01

I don't know if you can see it, but there was a lot of back and forth between

Bee: 00:29:09

how the main characters felt about tornadoes, like were they traumatized?

Bee: 00:29:14

Were they just scared regular?

Bee: 00:29:17

Scared because it's a scary thing.

Bee: 00:29:19

Were they excited about it?

Bee: 00:29:20

I felt like within one attack that would shift a lot.

Bee: 00:29:23

And then there was a lot of back and forth, like it would start very

Bee: 00:29:26

quickly and then they'd be safe, but then that same tornado, we'd be in the

Bee: 00:29:30

same thing and it would scale up again and then they would be saved again.

Bee: 00:29:34

And so it just felt like they sort of dragged on in this weird way.

Bee: 00:29:37

So I just thought the movie had some pacing issues.

Bee: 00:29:39

I

Sam: 00:29:39

agree with what you're saying.

Sam: 00:29:40

Like, I have a feeling that if I see it a second time, now that I know

Sam: 00:29:43

what it is, I'll probably like it.

Sam: 00:29:44

Enjoy it more.

Sam: 00:29:45

Like it's, it's decent, but you have a good point where I've only seen

Sam: 00:29:49

this once and I've seen twister, like 4, 000 times in the theater, like on

Sam: 00:29:54

cable over the past 20 years, like that movie is always on TV, so I've

Sam: 00:29:58

seen it like a billion times, but you talk about the pacing, how this movie,

Sam: 00:30:03

like, I did feel like the pacing would just kind of stop and be sort of slow.

Sam: 00:30:06

Whereas twister, I always felt the move, the whole movie is like on the move.

Sam: 00:30:11

It's like, they're on the road.

Sam: 00:30:13

The plot as cheesy as it is, like the screwball romantic comedy, it

Sam: 00:30:17

all unfolds while they're driving.

Sam: 00:30:19

Like they're constantly on the move.

Sam: 00:30:21

Like Twister has forward motion to it.

Sam: 00:30:24

Whereas this is like, all right, we're going to have an action scene and now

Sam: 00:30:27

we're going to do this and we're going to do that and whatever, you know,

Sam: 00:30:30

like it's, it's a more leisurely pace.

Sam: 00:30:33

It felt like, I think the

Nathan: 00:30:34

action scenes were.

Nathan: 00:30:35

in this.

Nathan: 00:30:37

I think I liked the, how the, the, the tornadoes and the, the

Nathan: 00:30:42

people are interacting with us.

Nathan: 00:30:43

That opening scene, I was, I was opening, it was riveting.

Nathan: 00:30:48

I mean,

Nathan: 00:30:51

they're going into that tornado blind and that's how I would expect.

Nathan: 00:30:57

It would be like going into a tornado where they can't see where they're going.

Nathan: 00:31:00

Things are hitting their car, causing real damage.

Nathan: 00:31:04

And there are stakes to this.

Nathan: 00:31:06

There's consequences to their hubris.

Nathan: 00:31:09

And I love how this goes out.

Nathan: 00:31:11

It fixes the problem where Everybody comes out alive,

Nathan: 00:31:15

unscathed, not a scratch on them.

Nathan: 00:31:18

And, and still, I think, I think the Daisy got out of this relatively unscathed with

Nathan: 00:31:25

just a scratch on her leg in the end.

Nathan: 00:31:26

But still, there are major consequences to, to what happened.

Nathan: 00:31:30

She loses three members of her crew.

Nathan: 00:31:32

And I love how this opens up.

Nathan: 00:31:34

I wish the whole movie, I want a version of Twister where, where more people.

Nathan: 00:31:40

Our diet.

Nathan: 00:31:40

And I do like the fact that there are civilian casualties in this.

Nathan: 00:31:43

We see it.

Nathan: 00:31:44

We see, even though we don't know these people, we are seeing, you

Nathan: 00:31:48

know, like the hotel manager or some of these other patrons come through.

Nathan: 00:31:52

I love the fact that this movie takes the liberty of showing what

Nathan: 00:31:56

happens to these stupid people that would drive, get in their car.

Nathan: 00:31:59

Then they could thinking they can outrun the tornado.

Nathan: 00:32:01

No get down flat.

Nathan: 00:32:03

Doesn't mean you're going to survive, but it increases your chances.

Nathan: 00:32:05

And it shows what happens when you don't listen to like the smarter people.

Nathan: 00:32:10

The experts.

Nathan: 00:32:11

Yeah.

Bee: 00:32:11

The pool scene I thought was really good.

Bee: 00:32:14

Those more intimate scenes I thought were so great.

Bee: 00:32:17

The car, the opening, but that what you're talking about with civilians,

Bee: 00:32:21

that pool scene, if it could have just been that the whole time, I

Bee: 00:32:24

think I would have liked it more.

Bee: 00:32:25

Several

Nathan: 00:32:26

of those scenes, the pool scene, the opening scene I mean,

Sam: 00:32:28

wait, what was the pool scene again?

Sam: 00:32:30

I, I'm missing

Bee: 00:32:31

the hotel where they go down into the the empty pool.

Bee: 00:32:34

The person that is

Nathan: 00:32:37

like complaining in the hotel is bill Paxton's son.

Bee: 00:32:42

No way.

Bee: 00:32:43

That's awesome.

Bee: 00:32:44

Oh, that's really fun.

Nathan: 00:32:46

Yes,

Nathan: 00:32:47

By the way, so we're going to the pool.

Nathan: 00:32:48

What pool has all these exposed pipes?

Nathan: 00:32:51

I was trying to think, I don't know, a single in ground pool that's got

Nathan: 00:32:57

all these pipes just lying around.

Nathan: 00:32:58

Like, yeah, God, that would be dangerous, wouldn't it?

Sam: 00:33:01

I will say that that opening set piece really was great, Nathan.

Sam: 00:33:05

I agree with that.

Sam: 00:33:06

I wish I like, like you were just saying, I wish the rest of the movie

Sam: 00:33:09

maintained that, like, level of, of.

Sam: 00:33:13

Intensity kind of because that that was really, really like the the

Sam: 00:33:18

perspective of that and then as they like get the data, they find out that

Sam: 00:33:21

like the column is like 70, 000 feet.

Sam: 00:33:24

And once you hear the data feedback, you just realize even though you can't see it.

Nathan: 00:33:28

There's like a monster behind us.

Nathan: 00:33:30

How is that even possible?

Nathan: 00:33:32

I was trying to This movie is big

Bee: 00:33:34

though.

Bee: 00:33:35

So, alright, few things to talk about that are outside of our review.

Bee: 00:33:40

Yeah.

Bee: 00:33:41

Can

Nathan: 00:33:41

we

Bee: 00:33:42

talk about the trucks in this movie?

Bee: 00:33:45

Huh.

Nathan: 00:33:46

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:33:48

What do we think?

Nathan: 00:33:49

By the way, I, I, I intense, like crazy, like, yeah, I, I own a, a Jeep Wrangler

Nathan: 00:33:54

and all I wanna do is just go offroading.

Nathan: 00:33:58

I don't, I don't listen to country music.

Nathan: 00:33:59

I don't like country music, but damn, I just wanna put, put, take all the

Nathan: 00:34:03

windows out, take the doors off, and I'm gonna put it, I have a GoPro.

Nathan: 00:34:07

I kind of wanna put it in my window and just like.

Nathan: 00:34:11

Put on some sunglasses, just go off roading and start a YouTube channel.

Nathan: 00:34:14

Like, I don't know what I'm chasing yet.

Nathan: 00:34:16

I don't know what I'm chasing yet, but I'm going to stop and get

Nathan: 00:34:17

a T bone and drink Coors Light.

Bee: 00:34:20

You'd call us five weeks later in a Kenny Chesney t shirt.

Bee: 00:34:23

I might.

Bee: 00:34:23

Way to go.

Nathan: 00:34:25

Back to the framerate.

Nathan: 00:34:26

That would be a good YouTube channel.

Nathan: 00:34:27

I want to see that.

Nathan: 00:34:28

Just driving across the country at, to, just scoping out drive

Nathan: 00:34:33

in theaters and hope, hope.

Nathan: 00:34:34

So, Maybe a tornado will come through.

Bee: 00:34:36

You both know that I live in a car culture household.

Bee: 00:34:40

I also have a Jeep Wrangler, but mine's from the nineties.

Bee: 00:34:43

Much like the better Twister movie.

Sam: 00:34:49

So I'm just putting like hillbilly music as you're talking about trucks.

Sam: 00:34:52

It's working.

Bee: 00:34:53

It's working.

Sam: 00:34:53

Yeehaw.

Sam: 00:34:54

Okay.

Sam: 00:34:55

Yeehaw, sorry.

Bee: 00:34:56

But One thing this movie gets really right is what I affectionately

Bee: 00:35:03

refer to as redneck tech.

Bee: 00:35:05

You know, where they just put the biggest, loudest, fastest things on

Bee: 00:35:10

the lightest frame they can and just see how fast and how far they can go.

Bee: 00:35:14

I mean, rockets off the sides of this truck.

Bee: 00:35:17

What?

Bee: 00:35:18

The bolts that will just screw into the ground?

Bee: 00:35:23

But that was really fun!

Bee: 00:35:24

Like, that was really fun.

Bee: 00:35:25

That was awesome,

Sam: 00:35:26

because that had energy and innovation, like, when he And character!

Sam: 00:35:30

And character.

Sam: 00:35:31

When their team shows up, they add, like, a sugar jolt to the movie.

Sam: 00:35:34

Yes.

Sam: 00:35:35

I did like how they referenced the original Twister when he, like, pulls

Sam: 00:35:38

out in front of them in traffic.

Sam: 00:35:40

Because they did that in the previous movie.

Sam: 00:35:42

And that had The good chaos energy to it.

Sam: 00:35:44

One point about

Nathan: 00:35:45

those drills.

Nathan: 00:35:46

He's auguring into the earth when a tornado passes over.

Nathan: 00:35:52

It is the dumbest thing ever.

Nathan: 00:35:56

Because you're driving a tornado.

Nathan: 00:35:57

Hopefully you don't go into some loose soil because you're dead.

Nathan: 00:36:01

How does he know?

Nathan: 00:36:02

He's Stopping right there, like drilling in.

Nathan: 00:36:04

What if he hits like a giant rock?

Nathan: 00:36:07

You're not going to survive, you know?

Bee: 00:36:09

How does he even get close enough to get to the tornado

Bee: 00:36:11

without being sucked up?

Nathan: 00:36:13

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:36:13

I mean, it's, it's honestly, it's, it's one of the, it's, it's cool, but it's

Nathan: 00:36:17

also one of the dumbest things ever.

Nathan: 00:36:19

One

Bee: 00:36:19

of the dumbest things.

Bee: 00:36:20

And it really serves for the final 10 minutes of the film.

Sam: 00:36:24

Yeah, I will say that him like putting fire, fireworks into the

Sam: 00:36:27

tornado was incredibly crowd pleasing.

Sam: 00:36:29

Like that was truly hilarious.

Sam: 00:36:31

That was awesome.

Sam: 00:36:32

That was like a yee haw moment.

Sam: 00:36:34

Could you

Bee: 00:36:34

guys hear the, the woman next to me who just kept going, who

Bee: 00:36:37

was so anxious through that home?

Bee: 00:36:39

She was feeling tension in that movie.

Bee: 00:36:42

So, so clearly it did get across to some folks, but she was, Oh my God.

Bee: 00:36:45

Oh my God.

Nathan: 00:36:49

There's something else I want to mention because I don't know, I'm not a,

Nathan: 00:36:53

I'm not a woman, but there is, I think, some offensive use of mansplaining in

Nathan: 00:36:59

this movie that I thought was hysterical.

Nathan: 00:37:02

Oh,

Bee: 00:37:02

you mean when he goes in and finds her homework and is like, you

Bee: 00:37:05

could have just fixed it like this.

Bee: 00:37:07

Well, the first one is when

Nathan: 00:37:09

the Anthony Ramos character and, and Kate are in the cafe and

Nathan: 00:37:13

he's explaining how our tornado works.

Nathan: 00:37:16

Number one, like this is our tornado.

Nathan: 00:37:17

He takes a glass of water.

Nathan: 00:37:19

This is the tornado.

Nathan: 00:37:20

All right.

Nathan: 00:37:21

I think she knows.

Nathan: 00:37:22

And this is how you triangulate something and he takes the maple syrup or barbecue

Nathan: 00:37:27

packets and she's like, Oh, I get it.

Nathan: 00:37:31

Like it's obviously for the audience, but it was like the most, it was

Nathan: 00:37:34

like the dumbest explanation ever.

Nathan: 00:37:35

I'm telling you, she's admitting pixels.

Bee: 00:37:38

She's like a perfect PhD scientist who has enough trauma to

Bee: 00:37:42

need more people in her life, but she also likes to chase tornadoes.

Bee: 00:37:46

And by the way, she can like cook and grow up on a farm.

Nathan: 00:37:49

There's like three scenes where someone explains to her

Nathan: 00:37:52

how tornadoes work and it's like, Mike, this woman's like a genius.

Nathan: 00:37:56

She knows everything, like a lot about weather and people are

Nathan: 00:37:59

explaining tornadoes to her and like how some basic science works.

Nathan: 00:38:03

You, by the way.

Nathan: 00:38:04

I want to jump ahead.

Nathan: 00:38:05

This movie is kind of has a lot of techno jargon babble in it,

Trailer: 00:38:10

which

Nathan: 00:38:11

I, I, I, I dug it to what, and this, what I really did like though,

Nathan: 00:38:17

is that never did I feel like I was playing catch up with any of it.

Nathan: 00:38:21

It was just the right amount.

Nathan: 00:38:24

To keep, you know, the audience briefed to what's going on, make the character

Nathan: 00:38:28

sound smart, but also the audience's eyes.

Nathan: 00:38:31

Mm-Hmm.

Nathan: 00:38:31

, you know, not glazing over either.

Nathan: 00:38:33

So I thought it was really, really good screenwriting the way that,

Nathan: 00:38:37

that, the way that was performed.

Nathan: 00:38:38

So I, I liked it a lot.

Bee: 00:38:41

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:38:41

Yeah.

Bee: 00:38:42

I'm with you

Bee: 00:38:45

. Sam: So I, yeah, I, I mean I I.

Bee: 00:38:48

And I want to say, and I want to stress too, like, even though I

Bee: 00:38:51

wasn't, like, wowed by a lot of the action, it certainly was not bad.

Bee: 00:38:57

Like, there's nothing bad in this movie.

Bee: 00:39:01

There are just things that I've seen before and, like, done

Bee: 00:39:03

with more, like, spectacle.

Bee: 00:39:04

But, like, I did enjoy it.

Bee: 00:39:08

So inoffensive, inoffensive.

Nathan: 00:39:12

So I think we've got to talk about the, the finale, the end scene,

Nathan: 00:39:16

because as much as I did love this movie, I think we all are in agreement

Nathan: 00:39:21

that this final sequence, the final tornado, which is, it's like a 20

Nathan: 00:39:26

minute climax of this movie, it has.

Nathan: 00:39:30

It's not the best part of this film.

Nathan: 00:39:31

It has a very conventional ending, and there's some

Nathan: 00:39:34

really dumb things that happen

Sam: 00:39:37

in

Nathan: 00:39:37

this.

Sam: 00:39:38

It also felt to me like a good, like, middle of the film action set piece.

Sam: 00:39:43

Like, like, even though the scale was big, like, I feel like the final set

Sam: 00:39:47

piece could have just been something crazier, where they're like, they

Sam: 00:39:51

find their car surrounded by like a, like a circuit, like like six F

Sam: 00:39:57

fives close, you know what I mean?

Sam: 00:39:58

Like something, something more.

Sam: 00:40:01

I just, I was not too worried about them not surviving in this.

Sam: 00:40:05

Like I did not, the last set piece, I did not feel the danger as much, although

Sam: 00:40:09

there's some clever visuals, but like that to me felt like standard CGI mayhem.

Nathan: 00:40:14

One thing that the predecessor of this is when You've got Anthony

Nathan: 00:40:19

Ramos and Superman are out driving.

Nathan: 00:40:22

I'm going to call him and he kind of has a change.

Nathan: 00:40:25

All right.

Nathan: 00:40:25

We find out a little more than halfway through this movie that

Nathan: 00:40:30

his, his group is work is they don't have the best intentions.

Nathan: 00:40:35

They are swooping in after these communities have been

Nathan: 00:40:38

devastated by tornadoes.

Nathan: 00:40:39

And they're working with some real estate mogul that's helping him buy this land.

Nathan: 00:40:44

So.

Nathan: 00:40:46

What he does is his partner, I forget his name, but I'll call him Superman.

Nathan: 00:40:50

He says, no, we got to keep, we have to retrieve the data from these radars.

Nathan: 00:40:55

And Anthony Ramos says, no, I'm going to go back and help my friends at the, in the

Nathan: 00:40:59

town because the tornado is heading there.

Nathan: 00:41:01

So he, I think this is funny.

Nathan: 00:41:02

And we talked about this afterwards is that.

Nathan: 00:41:05

All right.

Nathan: 00:41:05

You go set up the thing and he lets him out of the car and he just ditches him.

Nathan: 00:41:11

I think in the path of the tornado in to die.

Nathan: 00:41:15

And I thought that was like hysterical.

Nathan: 00:41:18

I just

Bee: 00:41:18

assumed they had the rest of the crew behind them.

Bee: 00:41:21

I guess it was my assumption.

Nathan: 00:41:22

Does he have?

Nathan: 00:41:23

A way of communicating.

Nathan: 00:41:25

I don't know, but there's a freaking F5 headed their way.

Nathan: 00:41:28

I think it was, who knows if they, if they even survived.

Sam: 00:41:32

But that would have been funny if he had like a horrific death, like at

Sam: 00:41:37

randomly, like, this is such a brief non sequitur bear with me for one second.

Sam: 00:41:41

But I don't know if you remember in Jurassic world, when the assistant who was

Sam: 00:41:45

like babysitting the kids, she is like.

Sam: 00:41:48

Plucked up by, by like a pterodactyl.

Sam: 00:41:52

Then she like falls and is dropped into the ocean.

Sam: 00:41:54

Then she's plucked up again.

Sam: 00:41:56

Then a giant like fish eats her.

Sam: 00:41:58

Like it is a brutal death for no reason.

Sam: 00:42:00

And so tying it back in, it'd be funny if he left him on the side of the road.

Sam: 00:42:04

And then just some like flying piece of debris smashed into him.

Sam: 00:42:07

But that did not happen in the film.

Nathan: 00:42:08

So in the meantime, back in the town Glen Powell and And Kate are trying

Nathan: 00:42:15

to like rescue people into buildings and they send people in the theater.

Nathan: 00:42:18

Glenn Powell gets trapped under some debris and there's a water tower

Nathan: 00:42:23

that's collapsing about to fall on him.

Nathan: 00:42:25

And, and, and it's a Daisy, right?

Nathan: 00:42:28

She's trying to like pry him out.

Nathan: 00:42:30

And out of nowhere, out of nowhere, like, like Anthony Ramos knew exactly

Nathan: 00:42:35

where to go in town to find them.

Nathan: 00:42:38

And like, like, oh, this is, this is so conventional.

Nathan: 00:42:41

This is so tropey.

Nathan: 00:42:42

Like you're there just in time.

Nathan: 00:42:44

I mean, I mean, yes, this is what movies do.

Nathan: 00:42:47

I even think in the

Bee: 00:42:48

movie theater, there was some like, Was it a universal horror

Bee: 00:42:51

movie that was on the screen?

Bee: 00:42:53

Frankenstein.

Bee: 00:42:53

Frankenstein.

Bee: 00:42:54

It was Frankenstein, which

Nathan: 00:42:55

I think is appropriate.

Nathan: 00:42:56

I mean, the, the tornado is, I thought was,

Bee: 00:42:57

I thought that was really fun, that there was this like

Bee: 00:43:00

big monster movie on the screen.

Bee: 00:43:01

So the, I didn't, the tornado is

Nathan: 00:43:03

the monster, so.

Nathan: 00:43:04

Yeah, exactly.

Bee: 00:43:05

So it's like, that's really kind of fun.

Bee: 00:43:06

But I, I just thought it was a super cheesy ending to the point

Bee: 00:43:10

where the tornado winds up perfectly framed in the movie theater.

Bee: 00:43:15

It's, yeah, that

Sam: 00:43:16

was just like, that was overdone symbolism.

Sam: 00:43:18

I was like, yep, I get it.

Sam: 00:43:19

We're watching the movie of the movie.

Sam: 00:43:22

And the tornado is like

Nathan: 00:43:23

coming through and I'm trying to figure out, would this be cool if

Nathan: 00:43:26

I was watching it in 3D or in a 4DX?

Nathan: 00:43:30

Or is this really way too on the nose?

Bee: 00:43:33

Yeah, it was.

Bee: 00:43:35

It wasn't, and then

Nathan: 00:43:36

America will eat it up.

Sam: 00:43:37

And I like, I like the mood here, but I, but for me, I still like the,

Sam: 00:43:40

the shining in the drive through in the first film, the Kubrick, like

Sam: 00:43:44

playing in the background and like Jack Nicholson, like hacking the door as like

Sam: 00:43:48

the screen is ripped up and twister.

Sam: 00:43:49

Like I just, I like imagery more.

Bee: 00:43:52

Totally on point, but not necessarily on the nose.

Sam: 00:43:55

Yeah.

Bee: 00:43:55

I do think.

Bee: 00:43:57

The whole Javi using leverage to rescue Glenn Powell, kind of a thing.

Bee: 00:44:03

I was, I was just like, It's a callback,

Nathan: 00:44:04

it's

Bee: 00:44:05

a callback too, because it

Nathan: 00:44:06

happened.

Bee: 00:44:06

Yeah.

Bee: 00:44:07

Yeah, I know.

Bee: 00:44:07

And I was like, I didn't really, really feel anything.

Bee: 00:44:12

I don't know.

Bee: 00:44:13

It w it didn't sing to me.

Bee: 00:44:15

But much like the original Twister I did really like the scenes at the farm.

Bee: 00:44:20

I like the scenes at Daisy, Edgar Jones's mom's house.

Bee: 00:44:23

I thought those were, yeah, I liked those scenes

Sam: 00:44:24

too.

Sam: 00:44:24

I thought those were good.

Sam: 00:44:25

And I wanna say, yeah, Daisy, Edgar Jones, I was, I thought she was really good.

Sam: 00:44:30

She did great and I was surprised.

Sam: 00:44:32

Not surprised, but like in the trailers, the first trailers for

Sam: 00:44:34

the film, that was very sort of Glen Powell centric and she was in it.

Sam: 00:44:38

But you didn't have a sense of what she would be like?

Sam: 00:44:40

I was surprised by their chemistry, and I thought her performance was like.

Sam: 00:44:45

Excellent.

Sam: 00:44:45

So like character wise, the two of them love, love the characters.

Sam: 00:44:50

Like if they, if they, if, if this does really well and they do, and

Sam: 00:44:54

then the two of them gang like team up for another twister adventure,

Sam: 00:44:57

like I'll be at the theater, you know,

Nathan: 00:44:59

what would the third one be called?

Sam: 00:45:03

Twistersers,

Nathan: 00:45:04

Twisterers.

Nathan: 00:45:04

I think Thristers.

Nathan: 00:45:06

Thristers.

Nathan: 00:45:07

Thristers, yeah.

Nathan: 00:45:08

With a three instead of the T.

Nathan: 00:45:10

Or like a

Sam: 00:45:11

dumb like like with a colon like Twisters Dominion or something.

Bee: 00:45:15

Yeah, I'd like if they went the Fast and Furious route and made no sense.

Bee: 00:45:19

Yeah.

Bee: 00:45:19

With all these, this subsequent naming of films.

Sam: 00:45:24

Twisters in da house.

Trailer: 00:45:27

Mm

Bee: 00:45:27

hmm.

Nathan: 00:45:29

What's really funny is, you know, the, one of the, the, the bigger quotes

Nathan: 00:45:33

from the, the trailer, you know, the, you don't face your fears, you ride them.

Nathan: 00:45:39

The context of that takes out a whole new meaning.

Nathan: 00:45:43

I think it, when you see the movie, that takes place in the

Nathan: 00:45:46

rodeo when they're looking at each other and damn, you see this.

Nathan: 00:45:50

And now I'm thinking like.

Nathan: 00:45:51

This is like an invitation of sex right now is what that really means.

Nathan: 00:45:56

Oh yeah, it's still a horny

Bee: 00:45:57

movie.

Bee: 00:45:59

I like that they kept the horn from the original movie.

Bee: 00:46:02

That did work.

Bee: 00:46:03

I thought that was pretty good.

Bee: 00:46:04

That's,

Nathan: 00:46:05

yeah, that was clearly.

Nathan: 00:46:06

You know, I have

Bee: 00:46:07

to knock this down to a three.

Bee: 00:46:08

I'm so sorry.

Bee: 00:46:09

The more we talk about it, the less I like it.

Bee: 00:46:12

That's okay.

Bee: 00:46:15

Yeah.

Sam: 00:46:15

You just officially joined the, the Sam club.

Sam: 00:46:19

Cause as you know, I will like, I shop there, take off

Sam: 00:46:22

or add stars at Sam's club.

Sam: 00:46:24

Yeah.

Sam: 00:46:24

Hey, I didn't realize that, but now I did.

Sam: 00:46:26

I actually am a member of Sam's club and I can go in and enjoy the discounts.

Sam: 00:46:31

I do get discounts.

Sam: 00:46:32

So check them out and go find your local Sam's club.

Bee: 00:46:36

Yeah, no, it's not a great, fine.

Nathan: 00:46:41

Okay.

Nathan: 00:46:42

I don't know.

Nathan: 00:46:42

I don't have anything else.

Nathan: 00:46:43

Really.

Nathan: 00:46:43

I'm looking at my, I definitely don't have anything else to say about this.

Nathan: 00:46:46

Okay.

Nathan: 00:46:47

Okay.

Nathan: 00:46:48

I, I'm glad I saw this.

Nathan: 00:46:50

I'm glad that we, we I'm glad we saw it together.

Nathan: 00:46:53

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:46:53

I'm glad we got to see this together.

Nathan: 00:46:54

I had a, I had a fun time.

Nathan: 00:46:55

I had a really fun time watching this.

Sam: 00:46:57

Potential title for the third one, Twister's Epitaph.

Sam: 00:47:00

Whoa, heavy, heavy shit going down in this movie.

Nathan: 00:47:07

Oh, last thing I would just mention, I, I do think it

Nathan: 00:47:10

was really smart not to include a strong message of climate change.

Nathan: 00:47:16

In this movie, it's like not even anywhere near this, you know, people going to this

Nathan: 00:47:21

movie, don't care about climate change.

Nathan: 00:47:23

They just want to be entertained.

Nathan: 00:47:25

And I was interested to see if that was going to be a theme

Nathan: 00:47:28

of this, but not a whiff of it.

Nathan: 00:47:30

So I don't know if you guys had a thought on that.

Sam: 00:47:32

I did.

Sam: 00:47:33

I thought, I thought, yeah.

Sam: 00:47:34

I mean, like, There wasn't really a need, like they addressed that.

Sam: 00:47:38

I think I read somewhere an article.

Sam: 00:47:39

They didn't want it to be like a message film.

Sam: 00:47:41

Like they're making a blockbuster.

Sam: 00:47:42

And plus they don't need to talk about climate change.

Sam: 00:47:45

Cause clearly there's a lot of dangerous tornadoes.

Sam: 00:47:47

So like the climate change speaks for itself.

Nathan: 00:47:49

It doesn't need to be in a movie.

Nathan: 00:47:50

It's exactly around.

Nathan: 00:47:52

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:47:53

Decide for yourself, you know, you know, we don't need, we don't

Nathan: 00:47:56

need a movie, especially a, a summer, you know, action movie.

Nathan: 00:48:01

This isn't the day after tomorrow,

Bee: 00:48:03

which I enjoyed.

Bee: 00:48:04

This movie was really pandering to the heartland in a way

Bee: 00:48:09

that would have Not worked.

Nathan: 00:48:12

Yeah.

Bee: 00:48:13

Had they included that messaging?

Nathan: 00:48:15

Yes.

Sam: 00:48:18

All right.

Sam: 00:48:19

It would not work if they included that messaging and it'd be very like

Sam: 00:48:22

condescending if imagine if they had like a climate change explanation in the middle

Sam: 00:48:27

of film, you know, in the first Jurassic.

Sam: 00:48:29

Park where there's that cartoon of how they discover the dinosaurs do that.

Sam: 00:48:33

And they do a climate change and Glenn Powell's like, get this.

Sam: 00:48:37

So the Arctic's clear.

Bee: 00:48:42

Kate learns about it for the first time.

Bee: 00:48:44

Exactly.

Sam: 00:48:45

Exactly.

Sam: 00:48:46

What?

Sam: 00:48:47

Wow.

Bee: 00:48:50

They didn't go over this in PhDs.

Nathan: 00:48:54

All right, let's take a quick break.

Nathan: 00:48:57

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Nathan: 00:48:59

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Nathan: 00:49:04

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Okay.

Nathan: 00:49:44

So we are coming back to for a conclusion of our review and our verdict.

Nathan: 00:49:52

And yeah, I'm going to go first.

Nathan: 00:49:53

So, like I said before, I love this movie.

Nathan: 00:49:56

I think this is the the perfect summer.

Nathan: 00:49:59

Blockbuster popcorn movie.

Nathan: 00:50:01

But what's weird is that this is still not a perfect movie,

Nathan: 00:50:06

even though I gave it a 4.

Nathan: 00:50:08

5, I would not say this is like, Amazing.

Nathan: 00:50:12

It's got a lot of flaws, but if you know, we're going to, I forgot to mention

Nathan: 00:50:17

this at the top of the show, we're going to do our top five disaster films.

Nathan: 00:50:21

I don't even know if this would make my top five, even it might be recency

Nathan: 00:50:26

bias, you know, that I, I might, I, I, it's hard to, it's hard to say,

Nathan: 00:50:30

but I think a lot of these other ones, I might not put it in there, but I

Nathan: 00:50:34

had a damn good time with this movie.

Nathan: 00:50:37

So I have, I have a suspicion where this might be going with you two guys.

Nathan: 00:50:41

So I'm going to say, I guess I want to say maybe it goes in.

Nathan: 00:50:47

Can I do that?

Nathan: 00:50:48

No, no,

Sam: 00:50:50

we need her.

Sam: 00:50:51

We need to sit.

Sam: 00:50:51

We don't have a sound effect for maybe the maybe sound effect is like,

Nathan: 00:50:58

yes, I'll put it in there.

Nathan: 00:51:01

I'll put it in.

Nathan: 00:51:02

Cause.

Nathan: 00:51:03

I do want to see it again.

Nathan: 00:51:04

I really do.

Nathan: 00:51:06

Okay.

Bee: 00:51:07

I'll take it right back out.

Bee: 00:51:09

I It was good.

Bee: 00:51:13

It was a good movie.

Bee: 00:51:15

It's fine.

Bee: 00:51:16

We're going to have other stuff to watch.

Bee: 00:51:18

Yeah.

Sam: 00:51:19

Okay.

Sam: 00:51:20

I enjoyed it.

Sam: 00:51:21

I liked it.

Sam: 00:51:22

I solidly enjoyed the movie.

Sam: 00:51:24

But I will take my chances and I will say no to putting it.

Sam: 00:51:28

In the vault.

Sam: 00:51:29

In the hopes of when the nuclear fallout subsides, maybe one day when I can venture

Sam: 00:51:33

forth safely outside again, I'll find a copy and be reunited with the film.

Sam: 00:51:37

So never say never, but I don't need it in the vault with me.

Nathan: 00:51:42

Sam, this is unprecedented.

Sam: 00:51:47

It's, it's, it's, it's an unprecedented summer.

Sam: 00:51:50

Maybe, maybe, maybe you need,

Nathan: 00:51:51

maybe you need this.

Trailer: 00:51:53

If you feel it, raise it!

Bee: 00:51:56

That really is such a vibe.

Bee: 00:51:58

That really is such a vibe, though.

Nathan: 00:52:01

All right, well, I think The decision has been made.

Sam: 00:52:12

I love that sound.

Sam: 00:52:13

I love how damning that sound effect is.

Sam: 00:52:15

It's like, get out of here.

Trailer: 00:52:18

All

Nathan: 00:52:19

right.

Nathan: 00:52:20

Twister's not saved in our vault, but that's okay.

Nathan: 00:52:25

It's okay.

Nathan: 00:52:25

No, I, I understand.

Nathan: 00:52:27

There's, there's, there's better movies.

Sam: 00:52:29

And just because I didn't save it, that doesn't, just because it

Sam: 00:52:31

isn't, just because I didn't save it, doesn't mean that I hate it.

Trailer: 00:52:36

One tiny spark becomes a night of blazing suspense as the world's tallest

Trailer: 00:52:42

building becomes the Towering Inferno.

Trailer: 00:52:45

Steve McQueen, Paul Newman, William Holden, Faye Dunaway, Fred

Trailer: 00:52:50

Astaire, Susan Blakely, Richard Chamberlain, Jennifer Jones, O.

Trailer: 00:52:54

J.

Trailer: 00:52:54

Simpson, Robert Vaughn, and Robert Wagner.

Trailer: 00:52:57

Erwin Allen's production of The Towering Inferno.

Trailer: 00:53:01

See it for Christmas at a theater near you.

Trailer: 00:53:03

Rated PG.

Nathan: 00:53:04

We have something new this week.

Nathan: 00:53:07

We are going to do our top five.

Nathan: 00:53:10

Favorite disaster movies, and this is not just like the 90s.

Nathan: 00:53:15

This could be from the entire history of movies.

Nathan: 00:53:17

We're going to use the term disaster movies loosely.

Nathan: 00:53:20

I specifically said not just natural disasters.

Nathan: 00:53:24

So do with this what you may, you know, this is have fun with this.

Nathan: 00:53:31

This will not be on your tombstone.

Nathan: 00:53:33

All right.

Nathan: 00:53:34

This list.

Nathan: 00:53:36

So.

Nathan: 00:53:37

We did not like figure out who's going to go first on this.

Nathan: 00:53:39

So how should we do this?

Nathan: 00:53:41

Do you want me to go do the same order?

Nathan: 00:53:43

Stay the same order?

Nathan: 00:53:45

Same order?

Nathan: 00:53:45

All right.

Nathan: 00:53:47

Okay.

Nathan: 00:53:50

So, by the way, do we need, what is a disaster movie to you guys?

Nathan: 00:53:55

And any, any rules to this that you think?

Nathan: 00:53:57

That you've only ruled

Sam: 00:53:58

that I had in my head was there has to be significant

Sam: 00:54:00

destruction of some sort in the film.

Bee: 00:54:02

Yeah,

Sam: 00:54:04

it's a good rule.

Bee: 00:54:05

That is a good rule.

Bee: 00:54:07

I kind of interpreted it as natural disaster, but hearing this now, I'm like,

Bee: 00:54:10

Oh yeah, I could definitely open that up because I wanted to go in to a little

Bee: 00:54:14

bit more sci fi or even animal, you know, so we'll see, we'll see what happens.

Bee: 00:54:20

We'll, we'll all learn my top five.

Bee: 00:54:22

All right.

Nathan: 00:54:23

All right.

Nathan: 00:54:23

So I guess we'll go, we're still from five to one, my number five.

Nathan: 00:54:29

I went with Knowing, the 2009 Alex Proyas film starring Nick Cage, Rose Byrne

Nathan: 00:54:38

Nick Cage is a professor who discovers a time capsule from 1959 containing

Nathan: 00:54:46

a mysterious list of numbers and I think he realizes he can predict it.

Nathan: 00:54:50

Dates and death tolls and coordinates of major disasters over the past 50 years,

Nathan: 00:54:56

including some that haven't happened yet.

Nathan: 00:54:58

I know this movie has some, yeah, it's got some decent special effects.

Nathan: 00:55:02

I've always enjoyed Alex Proyas as a director, even when he swings and misses.

Nathan: 00:55:08

The ending of this movie is not great, but I still think it's

Nathan: 00:55:13

worth worth the ride, I think.

Nathan: 00:55:15

So yeah.

Nathan: 00:55:16

Knowing, from 2009, is my number five.

Nathan: 00:55:21

Nice.

Nathan: 00:55:23

That's a good choice.

Nathan: 00:55:24

Okay, thank you.

Sam: 00:55:26

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:55:26

Sam,

Sam: 00:55:26

do you like Knowing?

Sam: 00:55:28

I do, but I haven't seen it in so long.

Sam: 00:55:30

I just remember there's an impressive and creepy plane crash in that movie.

Sam: 00:55:34

Yeah, the plane crash.

Sam: 00:55:34

Across the highway.

Sam: 00:55:35

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:55:35

Yeah.

Sam: 00:55:36

I do remember that.

Sam: 00:55:37

I would have to go back.

Sam: 00:55:38

I remember enjoying it, but it's been a while.

Nathan: 00:55:40

So

Bee: 00:55:44

I have one for my number five, and I'm not sure if you could really

Bee: 00:55:48

classify it because the, this is a genre that can be a little tough for me.

Bee: 00:55:54

But I have a backup.

Bee: 00:55:55

So if you guys are like, kick this movie out of here, I hear you.

Bee: 00:55:58

I

Nathan: 00:55:59

have my, my, my finger on the purge button here.

Nathan: 00:56:02

So, Sure.

Bee: 00:56:04

I was in Spielberg frame of mind, War of the Worlds, got a lightning storm.

Bee: 00:56:09

Yeah.

Trailer: 00:56:09

Yes.

Bee: 00:56:10

Yeah.

Bee: 00:56:10

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:56:11

All

Bee: 00:56:13

right.

Nathan: 00:56:17

We'll take it.

Bee: 00:56:18

I love this movie.

Nathan: 00:56:22

It's got a

Bee: 00:56:22

badass lightning storm.

Bee: 00:56:23

Well, you

Nathan: 00:56:24

weren't here when we reviewed it.

Nathan: 00:56:25

That was like last spring.

Nathan: 00:56:27

Yeah.

Bee: 00:56:27

No.

Bee: 00:56:28

Yeah,

Nathan: 00:56:29

we did.

Nathan: 00:56:29

That was one of our early Spielberg retrospective films.

Bee: 00:56:32

Oh, yeah.

Bee: 00:56:33

I love this movie.

Bee: 00:56:34

I think it's great.

Bee: 00:56:35

I don't know what you guys think of this movie, but now I want to find out.

Nathan: 00:56:38

You know what though?

Nathan: 00:56:39

I could tell you this.

Nathan: 00:56:40

It was not voted into our vault.

Bee: 00:56:43

Really?

Bee: 00:56:44

No.

Bee: 00:56:44

We did

Nathan: 00:56:45

that retrospectively.

Nathan: 00:56:47

Zoinks.

Nathan: 00:56:48

Yep.

Nathan: 00:56:49

Sam, what is your number five?

Sam: 00:56:51

Boy, this is tough.

Sam: 00:56:52

I have been oscillating and like this list may be subject to change

Sam: 00:56:56

in the future, but I'd say my number five is Greenland, starring

Sam: 00:57:01

Gerard Butler and Morena Baccarin.

Sam: 00:57:05

And this movie is the antithesis of Don't Look Up.

Sam: 00:57:09

It is a gritty, brutally realistic and terrifying and harrowing first Person,

Sam: 00:57:16

almost family account of a, of a family that is just like living their life

Sam: 00:57:22

and they get a presidential alert on their cell phone that they need to

Sam: 00:57:27

like report to this location so that they can be transported to Greenland.

Sam: 00:57:32

And like literally a comet is, is coming and it's broken off into

Sam: 00:57:37

pieces and the government has sort of hidden how dangerous it will be.

Sam: 00:57:40

But destruction starts happening in the distance.

Sam: 00:57:43

But this is not the film where like people outrun fireballs and

Sam: 00:57:47

there's cheesy, unrealistic effects.

Sam: 00:57:49

Everything that happens in this movie is grounded and terrifying and psychological.

Sam: 00:57:55

And the tapestry, the canvas is very up close and personal.

Sam: 00:57:59

Harrowing movie.

Sam: 00:58:00

Greenland.

Sam: 00:58:02

I've never heard of this.

Sam: 00:58:03

I think you would.

Sam: 00:58:04

I think you would really like it because yeah, check it out.

Sam: 00:58:06

It does not fall into the blockbuster trap.

Sam: 00:58:08

It feels like a documentary of.

Sam: 00:58:11

A couple and a family trying to get to an airport and just their

Sam: 00:58:15

grounded, terrifying adventure.

Sam: 00:58:16

And like, just, I was mesmerized by this movie.

Sam: 00:58:19

So that would, that would be on there.

Nathan: 00:58:21

I never checked this out because I saw Gerard Butler on the cover of it.

Nathan: 00:58:24

And I figured this is just action schlock.

Nathan: 00:58:27

So definitely

Sam: 00:58:28

not.

Sam: 00:58:28

It is different.

Sam: 00:58:29

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:58:30

Okay.

Nathan: 00:58:30

I thought

Sam: 00:58:31

the same thing.

Sam: 00:58:32

It is.

Sam: 00:58:32

It was surprisingly good.

Sam: 00:58:34

Like,

Nathan: 00:58:35

But I agree with you.

Nathan: 00:58:35

I've only heard amazing things about this, but that was my initial opinion

Nathan: 00:58:41

about it when I saw this, but I have hearing the same thing you're saying, Sam,

Nathan: 00:58:45

is that this is much better than that.

Nathan: 00:58:47

And I was just seeing that there is a sequel coming out in

Nathan: 00:58:49

a couple soon called Greenland Migration also with Gerard Butler.

Nathan: 00:58:53

So

Sam: 00:58:53

really?

Nathan: 00:58:54

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:58:54

Oh, that is

Sam: 00:58:56

great news.

Sam: 00:58:56

I did not know that at all.

Sam: 00:58:58

That is the first I've heard of that.

Sam: 00:58:59

And like, I can see how they would continue the story,

Sam: 00:59:02

and that is spectacular.

Nathan: 00:59:04

Same director, too.

Sam: 00:59:05

Awesome.

Nathan: 00:59:06

Cool.

Nathan: 00:59:06

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:59:07

Alright.

Nathan: 00:59:07

Day made.

Nathan: 00:59:09

Day made.

Nathan: 00:59:12

Alright, so we're moving on to our number fours of our top

Nathan: 00:59:16

five favorite disaster movies.

Nathan: 00:59:19

And I have

Bee: 00:59:19

it on good authority, Nathan's is Snakes on a Plane.

Bee: 00:59:23

Is that right?

Bee: 00:59:24

You know, I know

Nathan: 00:59:25

I never thought about that, but let me

Sam: 00:59:28

guess your number for your number four is of disaster movies,

Sam: 00:59:32

a different kind of disaster.

Sam: 00:59:33

The box office disaster of caddy shack too.

Bee: 00:59:38

I did think about doing box offered

Sam: 00:59:40

G Lee woo.

Nathan: 00:59:44

So this one is one of the OG disaster films.

Nathan: 00:59:50

It came out in 1972 is directed by.

Nathan: 00:59:54

Christopher, I think Nimi and Nemi the film laid out the blueprint

Nathan: 00:59:59

for the huge ensemble cast that, that many other disaster films of

Nathan: 01:00:04

the seventies would soon adopt.

Nathan: 01:00:06

Typically a cast of actors way past their prime or, or ex athletes,

Nathan: 01:00:10

whomever they could get to show up the movies, the Poseidon adventures, it's

Nathan: 01:00:16

actually one of the best of these.

Nathan: 01:00:18

It was Eric.

Nathan: 01:00:19

Gene Hackman is the lead, and he's really great in this.

Nathan: 01:00:23

God, I'd watch Hackman

Bee: 01:00:24

in anything.

Nathan: 01:00:25

The whole, the whole cast is great.

Nathan: 01:00:26

You got Ernest Borgnine, Red Buttons, Shelley Winters, who actually was

Nathan: 01:00:30

nominated for Best Supporting Actress.

Sam: 01:00:32

Leslie Nielsen.

Nathan: 01:00:33

Leslie Nielsen, Roddy McDowell.

Nathan: 01:00:35

You know, basically, if they weren't on the set, That day, they were probably

Nathan: 01:00:41

taping an episode of Hollywood Squares.

Nathan: 01:00:44

That's how I always look at it.

Nathan: 01:00:45

There's so much suspense in this.

Nathan: 01:00:47

Basically, all the passengers are trying to escape a capsized

Nathan: 01:00:51

ocean liner hit by a rogue wave.

Nathan: 01:00:53

Exactly what I want to think about as I get ready for my first cruise next week.

Sam: 01:00:59

I will say, I love the Poseidon Adventure.

Sam: 01:01:02

And the, I, when the rogue wave appears and the suspense building up that I

Sam: 01:01:07

still find that absolutely terrifying.

Nathan: 01:01:09

Yeah, it's a sad adventure in my number four.

Nathan: 01:01:14

Beast!

Bee: 01:01:16

Alright, well, we know I like my movies two ways.

Bee: 01:01:19

Wet and schlocky.

Bee: 01:01:20

Big fans.

Bee: 01:01:22

Love Jason Takes Manhattan.

Bee: 01:01:23

Love Jason Takes Manhattan.

Bee: 01:01:27

Love Deep Blue Sea.

Bee: 01:01:28

No, my number four.

Bee: 01:01:29

Even wetter, even schlockier.

Bee: 01:01:31

We've gone all the way wet with Waterworld.

Bee: 01:01:34

Oh, no way.

Bee: 01:01:35

Cool.

Bee: 01:01:35

I ride for the cause.

Sam: 01:01:38

That movie has a great, great soundtrack.

Bee: 01:01:40

I saw this when I was a kid.

Bee: 01:01:42

You know, it came out in 1995.

Bee: 01:01:45

I watched it with my dad.

Bee: 01:01:46

I just have good, fun, nostalgic memories of this movie.

Bee: 01:01:49

I'm not going to say it's, it's the blueprint or the best of the

Bee: 01:01:52

best of anything, but I really enjoy watching it and still do.

Bee: 01:01:56

I have great

Sam: 01:01:57

nostalgia for it.

Sam: 01:01:58

I was Summer 95, I was 14 and I had, that movie was like epic and that's

Sam: 01:02:04

not actually, because of that movie, I read a review of that film and they

Sam: 01:02:07

said, well, not quite as terrifying as the world of Road Warrior.

Sam: 01:02:12

And I was like, Road Warrior?

Sam: 01:02:13

What's that?

Sam: 01:02:13

So Waterworld led me to Mad Max that summer.

Sam: 01:02:17

Yeah.

Sam: 01:02:17

So 14 year old.

Sam: 01:02:19

Summer.

Sam: 01:02:20

Love that summer.

Sam: 01:02:20

That's a great summer.

Nathan: 01:02:21

So I, I regrettably did not have it.

Nathan: 01:02:25

I did not see it in the theater and I'm hoping that next year with,

Nathan: 01:02:28

I think it's its 30th anniversary next year that it will find its way

Nathan: 01:02:32

into a big screen somewhere near me.

Nathan: 01:02:35

It'd be so fun.

Nathan: 01:02:36

I would like to see it in the theater.

Nathan: 01:02:37

Yeah.

Bee: 01:02:38

It's just a really fun movie.

Nathan: 01:02:40

All right, Sam, what say you, you're number.

Sam: 01:02:43

So my number four a film directed by Mimi Leder starring Morgan Freeman

Sam: 01:02:48

and Tia Leone Tia Leone, excuse me, I'm referring to Deep Impact.

Bee: 01:02:52

I thought about this.

Bee: 01:02:54

This was like six, this was the one where I was like, if you guys don't

Bee: 01:02:57

like War of the Worlds, Steep Impact.

Sam: 01:02:59

I am a sucker for the tone of this movie.

Sam: 01:03:02

James Horner's score, May He Rest in Peace, is haunting and beautiful.

Sam: 01:03:06

End.

Sam: 01:03:07

I, this, this was the summer of comet movies, the summer of 1998.

Sam: 01:03:12

This came out first and then Armageddon came out later in the summer.

Sam: 01:03:15

Armageddon is the bigger hit, but scientists agree that this movie

Sam: 01:03:19

of the two is the more realistic.

Sam: 01:03:21

I love this movie.

Sam: 01:03:23

It's serious.

Sam: 01:03:24

It's scary.

Sam: 01:03:24

And it, I just find the way the script unfolds clever.

Sam: 01:03:28

So yeah, that would be my number four deep impact.

Sam: 01:03:30

It just, the, the implications of like the, what's the, the world being

Sam: 01:03:34

destroyed on that scale is terrifying.

Sam: 01:03:36

I just love the, the,

Nathan: 01:03:37

the human drama element of this movie.

Nathan: 01:03:39

I really, you get to know these, but Judd Hirsch in this is so many, so many.

Nathan: 01:03:44

sub stories in this.

Nathan: 01:03:45

It's really, it really is well done.

Nathan: 01:03:47

The effects are not that good in this though, but.

Sam: 01:03:50

They have not, they have not, some of them have not aged well, but

Sam: 01:03:53

some are good and there is still a hilarious shot of a tsunami like.

Sam: 01:03:57

overtaking New York.

Sam: 01:03:59

And there's this elderly gentleman reading a newspaper that is clueless.

Sam: 01:04:03

And this moment played at a, has a joke, even on the screen back

Sam: 01:04:07

then everyone was like, he's oblivious that the wave is coming.

Sam: 01:04:11

So yeah, she, but some cheesy special effects agree.

Sam: 01:04:13

Some still hold up some not so great, but in general love the movie.

Nathan: 01:04:17

It's a good movie.

Nathan: 01:04:20

All right.

Nathan: 01:04:20

So, all right, so, up to me, my number three.

Nathan: 01:04:26

So my number three is The Impossible from 2012.

Nathan: 01:04:32

This is directed by J.

Nathan: 01:04:34

A.

Nathan: 01:04:34

Bayona and it's starring Naomi Watts, Ewan McGregor, and there are a couple, actually

Nathan: 01:04:39

parents, who are vacationing in Thailand in December of 2004 when the infamous

Nathan: 01:04:47

Hit the coast causing incomprehensible devastation to the country.

Nathan: 01:04:51

This is a harrowing story and will exhaust you.

Nathan: 01:04:58

I can't believe I haven't seen this.

Sam: 01:05:00

I gotta see this.

Nathan: 01:05:01

Yeah, it's great.

Nathan: 01:05:01

I've definitely seen this.

Nathan: 01:05:02

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:05:03

So, the scenes where the tsunami first hit are incredible.

Nathan: 01:05:08

The effects still, I mean, this is a 12 year old movie, it's still incredible.

Nathan: 01:05:12

I know much of it is CGI, but it's clear that a lot of these

Nathan: 01:05:16

actors spent hours on it.

Nathan: 01:05:17

Hours, days in the water filming these scenes and it looks,

Nathan: 01:05:20

it looked like a rough shoot.

Nathan: 01:05:22

Very good film.

Nathan: 01:05:22

One of the better disaster films for sure.

Nathan: 01:05:25

So yeah.

Nathan: 01:05:25

Wow.

Nathan: 01:05:26

Definitely check that out.

Nathan: 01:05:27

It is really good.

Nathan: 01:05:28

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:05:30

Cool.

Nathan: 01:05:32

That's my number three.

Nathan: 01:05:34

Be your number three.

Bee: 01:05:37

My number three.

Bee: 01:05:40

Is a little movie you might've heard of.

Bee: 01:05:42

Oh,

Nathan: 01:05:43

go ahead.

Bee: 01:05:43

It's just about two love struck kids in Oklahoma.

Bee: 01:05:47

Just chasing things they love.

Bee: 01:05:48

It's Twister.

Bee: 01:05:50

Woo.

Bee: 01:05:53

I can't say any more about it.

Bee: 01:05:55

I've said so much about Twister in the last 72 hours,

Bee: 01:06:01

but big fan.

Nathan: 01:06:02

Big you are.

Nathan: 01:06:03

All right, Sam, what is your number three?

Sam: 01:06:07

My number three is the wildly entertaining and hilariously

Sam: 01:06:11

ridiculous and over the top massive spectacle, Roland Emmerich's 2012.

Sam: 01:06:18

I unapologetically Love this, this guilty pleasure, epic film starring

Sam: 01:06:25

John Cusack hilarious over the top performance by Woody Harrelson as

Sam: 01:06:29

a guy who's just like lost it, but the scale of this movie is amazing.

Sam: 01:06:34

Basically the like Earth's It's crust starts to shift and they're

Sam: 01:06:39

like tectonic plates lose their position because of solar flares.

Sam: 01:06:43

So like Los Angeles just sinks into the ocean.

Sam: 01:06:46

There's huge tsunamis.

Sam: 01:06:48

There is spectacle after spectacle in this movie that is just nuts and ridiculous.

Sam: 01:06:54

And I love it, including a giant arc that's like lost control of

Sam: 01:06:59

its engine and in rising waters.

Sam: 01:07:01

They have to turn or they're going to crash right into

Sam: 01:07:03

the face of Mount Everest.

Sam: 01:07:05

Sublimely ridiculous.

Sam: 01:07:08

I remember when this

Bee: 01:07:09

came out.

Bee: 01:07:09

Yeah, I

Sam: 01:07:10

do love it.

Sam: 01:07:10

I do love it.

Sam: 01:07:11

So that'd be my, my number three.

Sam: 01:07:12

It's

Bee: 01:07:13

good choice.

Bee: 01:07:14

It's not a good choice.

Bee: 01:07:15

It's terrible choice, but I support you.

Nathan: 01:07:18

We still love you, Sam.

Bee: 01:07:20

We do.

Sam: 01:07:20

I'm aware of its quality level, but I, I, Hey man, I chose

Bee: 01:07:23

water world.

Bee: 01:07:25

You gotta go with what you love.

Nathan: 01:07:28

It's fine.

Nathan: 01:07:29

If you feel

Bee: 01:07:30

it, chase it.

Nathan: 01:07:34

Well You can make fun of me for this next one because you, you

Nathan: 01:07:38

got, you got 2012, you know, this one, you may have heard of it too.

Nathan: 01:07:44

It was a little movie and I debated if it, this is a disaster film or not, but

Nathan: 01:07:49

yeah, it is because the last hour of this movie is about as intense as it

Nathan: 01:07:54

gets as the RMS Titanic slowly sinks into the Atlantic on April 15th, 1912.

Nathan: 01:08:03

Say what you will about this movie.

Nathan: 01:08:04

I know there are haters out there, but I think Titanic does so brilliantly.

Nathan: 01:08:09

It's a great one.

Nathan: 01:08:10

That's what really is that James Cameron lets us indulge in the world

Nathan: 01:08:13

of living on the ship for two hours.

Nathan: 01:08:15

We get to know the geography and more probably we spend time

Nathan: 01:08:19

with all of these characters.

Nathan: 01:08:21

Not just the two leads, but all, you know, the people that work

Nathan: 01:08:24

on there, these various people.

Nathan: 01:08:25

I refuse

Bee: 01:08:27

to let the internet make us think liking Titanic is a hot take.

Nathan: 01:08:31

It's a good movie.

Nathan: 01:08:32

It is.

Nathan: 01:08:33

It is an excellent film.

Nathan: 01:08:35

But because we spend all this time, we are invested in the survival of

Nathan: 01:08:40

these characters down to the most minute character in this film.

Nathan: 01:08:44

It is why Titanic is such a riveting film.

Nathan: 01:08:47

And that last hour is still one of the best hours in cinema history

Nathan: 01:08:51

as that ship slowly goes down.

Nathan: 01:08:52

And of course, the extremely climactic ending as the liner

Nathan: 01:08:56

violently goes down at the end.

Nathan: 01:08:58

So Titanic is my number two.

Bee: 01:09:02

You know, it's a little bit of a wet movie,

Nathan: 01:09:06

a little bit.

Bee: 01:09:07

It's a little bit.

Nathan: 01:09:09

There might get wetter.

Bee: 01:09:10

I might get wetter.

Bee: 01:09:12

My number two, bigger, bigger, splashier, wetter movie.

Bee: 01:09:15

I love this movie.

Bee: 01:09:18

It's

Nathan: 01:09:18

another, we don't have anything that's overlapping yet.

Nathan: 01:09:20

This is crazy.

Nathan: 01:09:21

I don't know.

Nathan: 01:09:21

This is crazy.

Nathan: 01:09:22

Yeah.

Bee: 01:09:22

I think my number one might overlap with someone else's.

Bee: 01:09:25

Okay.

Bee: 01:09:25

But I love this next movie.

Bee: 01:09:27

It is another boating incident movie.

Bee: 01:09:30

It is, of course, a perfect storm.

Bee: 01:09:32

I think that I love this movie.

Bee: 01:09:36

It's so good.

Bee: 01:09:37

The whole cast is great.

Bee: 01:09:39

As a New Englander, I just felt this one like in my bones, you know.

Bee: 01:09:43

Another

Sam: 01:09:44

great James Horner score.

Bee: 01:09:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it's just great.

Bee: 01:09:49

It's a great character story.

Bee: 01:09:50

All the side actors are great.

Bee: 01:09:51

It's another great ensemble piece.

Bee: 01:09:53

You really feel the tension in this movie.

Bee: 01:09:54

I think it still looks good.

Bee: 01:09:57

I would watch this anytime.

Bee: 01:09:58

Throw it on.

Sam: 01:09:59

I love the like autumnal feel of that movie.

Sam: 01:10:02

It's like October 1991.

Sam: 01:10:05

The Grand Banks like, oh, it's epic.

Bee: 01:10:08

And it's like, it's based on real stuff.

Bee: 01:10:10

Yeah.

Bee: 01:10:10

You know,

Sam: 01:10:11

since we used to quote Mark Wahlberg in the show, I will quote

Sam: 01:10:14

a line from, from perfect storm.

Sam: 01:10:15

He's like, yeah, ma, I know the grand banks and no joke in October.

Nathan: 01:10:22

Love it.

Nathan: 01:10:22

Great pick the Sam.

Nathan: 01:10:25

What's your number two?

Nathan: 01:10:27

I

Sam: 01:10:27

mean, I spoke too soon about overlap but my number two is none

Sam: 01:10:31

other than the Poseidon Adventure.

Sam: 01:10:33

You discussed it already.

Sam: 01:10:34

I love that movie and Leslie Nielsen in a serious role.

Sam: 01:10:37

This is before his comedy extravaganza.

Sam: 01:10:41

I find this movie, I saw it as a kid and I just find it terrifying and riveting.

Sam: 01:10:45

And like, even though some of the visual effects are old and clearly,

Sam: 01:10:48

sometimes you're looking at models, it is so well done and so involving.

Sam: 01:10:53

I love it.

Sam: 01:10:53

And there is a really not so great remake called Poseidon in 2006, directed

Sam: 01:10:59

by Wolfgang Peterson, starring Kurt Russell, who does a great job, but

Sam: 01:11:02

like very, yeah, definitely a remake.

Sam: 01:11:05

Yeah.

Bee: 01:11:06

Okay.

Nathan: 01:11:07

Wolfgang Peterson did Perfect Storm.

Sam: 01:11:08

Indeed he did.

Sam: 01:11:11

All right.

Bee: 01:11:12

Perfect.

Bee: 01:11:12

So I'm more like perfect movie.

Bee: 01:11:15

Fox just

Sam: 01:11:15

lifting, throw off your bow line, throw off or something else.

Sam: 01:11:18

You know what?

Sam: 01:11:18

You're a goddamn swords boat captain.

Sam: 01:11:20

Is there anything better in the world?

Nathan: 01:11:23

Sorry.

Nathan: 01:11:25

So my number one pick is I think the most broey movie on my list and it

Nathan: 01:11:32

has been mentioned already on here.

Nathan: 01:11:35

I'm sticking with boats.

Nathan: 01:11:37

This one isn't quite as large as Titanic.

Nathan: 01:11:39

It's been mentioned already, but it's the Andrea Gale believed to have gone down in

Nathan: 01:11:43

one of those violent weather occurrences in the Atlantic on October 1991.

Nathan: 01:11:49

Perfect Storm, George Clooney, Mark Wahlberg as Gloucester men.

Nathan: 01:11:54

Wait, Perfect Storm

Sam: 01:11:55

is your number one?

Sam: 01:11:56

Yes.

Nathan: 01:11:57

That's awesome.

Nathan: 01:11:58

Yes.

Nathan: 01:11:59

Yes.

Nathan: 01:12:00

Yes.

Nathan: 01:12:01

The men who get caught in a storm while returning home after a big haul of fish.

Nathan: 01:12:06

I think the special effects in this movie still did pretty good, you know?

Nathan: 01:12:10

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:12:11

They look good.

Nathan: 01:12:11

It looks good.

Nathan: 01:12:12

I love this movie.

Nathan: 01:12:13

I think George Clooney is fantastic in it.

Nathan: 01:12:15

It is rooted in that Massachusetts thing.

Nathan: 01:12:18

Oh, I love the Massachusetts like pathos, mythos to

Sam: 01:12:22

it.

Sam: 01:12:22

Like when it starts and like, she has the nightmare, the Warner Brothers logo,

Sam: 01:12:25

and you like see them coming back to the doc, you're like, ah, Gloucester,

Sam: 01:12:29

Gloucester, you know, it's so funny.

Sam: 01:12:31

That was so close to my, that was my number five.

Sam: 01:12:34

And then I thought of Greenland, but like, I don't know.

Sam: 01:12:36

I may have a deeper love for perfect storm, but I do love, I

Sam: 01:12:39

love, I do love perfect storm.

Sam: 01:12:41

I saw that in the theater that, and I liked it, but it

Sam: 01:12:43

grew on me over the years.

Sam: 01:12:45

It grew

Nathan: 01:12:45

on me as well.

Nathan: 01:12:46

And I just want to also highlight just the awesome cast in this.

Nathan: 01:12:49

They got other members.

Nathan: 01:12:50

You got John C.

Nathan: 01:12:51

Reilly, William Fichtner, who has made a career out of playing

Nathan: 01:12:55

swarmy people, swarmy characters, John Hawks in an early role.

Nathan: 01:12:59

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:12:59

Karen.

Nathan: 01:13:00

Alan and Diane Lane.

Nathan: 01:13:02

This is Michael

Sam: 01:13:03

Ironside.

Nathan: 01:13:04

Yeah, I was going

Bee: 01:13:05

to say Michael Ironside.

Bee: 01:13:06

No one in this movie is in a little bit swashbuckling.

Bee: 01:13:09

Again, it sings to my New England heart.

Bee: 01:13:11

If you got it.

Sam: 01:13:12

Yeah.

Bee: 01:13:12

And if you haven't read, I know she makes a cameo, but Linda Greenlaw is one

Bee: 01:13:17

of the, the Fisher, People, Fisher Woman, who this is all based on and she was

Bee: 01:13:23

there and yeah, you should check it out.

Bee: 01:13:24

Her books are great.

Bee: 01:13:25

Yeah, I have a copy of The Hungry Ocean.

Bee: 01:13:27

It's awesome.

Sam: 01:13:27

That's awesome.

Sam: 01:13:28

Like the end of that film is so emotional when Mary Elizabeth Mastery

Sam: 01:13:31

Antonio is like delivering the speech.

Sam: 01:13:32

Then it pushes into the Gloucester sign and James Horner gives you

Sam: 01:13:36

like the most new Englandy composed epicness . I'm gonna watch this tonight.

Sam: 01:13:41

Yeah, I might watch it.

Sam: 01:13:41

Two best line ever.

Sam: 01:13:42

Waking up and watch this Michael Watch party.

Sam: 01:13:45

Best line ever, Michael Ironside.

Sam: 01:13:47

I actually quote this movie a lot by myself.

Sam: 01:13:49

Sometimes I'll be in my car by myself and I'll quote Michael Ironside.

Sam: 01:13:52

He'll be like, I like you, Billy, but I like my boat better.

Nathan: 01:13:58

Love it.

Nathan: 01:13:59

All right, B, you're number one.

Bee: 01:14:01

Well, my number one, it's not a bro y movie, but it does

Bee: 01:14:07

have who I would consider kind of a swashbuckling bro at its heart.

Bee: 01:14:11

It is of course Dante's Peak.

Opening: 01:14:13

No way, that's awesome!

Opening: 01:14:14

I don't know

Bee: 01:14:15

how this hasn't come up yet.

Bee: 01:14:16

This is what's flooring me a little bit and I'm surprised.

Bee: 01:14:21

This is a classic movie.

Bee: 01:14:23

Another great cast, Linda Hamilton is in this, of course Pierce

Bee: 01:14:26

Brosnan is the heart of it.

Bee: 01:14:28

It's a great time.

Bee: 01:14:30

Yeah.

Sam: 01:14:31

I love Dante's Peak.

Sam: 01:14:32

I need to

Nathan: 01:14:33

revisit

Sam: 01:14:33

this.

Nathan: 01:14:33

Between this and I will shamelessly

Sam: 01:14:36

Forgive me guys, but I will shamelessly plug Walks of World.

Sam: 01:14:38

Briefly, I visited Dante's Peak, the town of Wallace, Idaho.

Sam: 01:14:42

Walks of World, YouTube handle, Walks of World 1981.

Sam: 01:14:45

Check it out.

Sam: 01:14:45

Look for the Dante's Peak video.

Sam: 01:14:47

It's a million times

Bee: 01:14:48

more powerful than the atomic bomb.

Bee: 01:14:50

You know, like, it's just good shit.

Sam: 01:14:53

Is that your recipe for frog soup, Harry?

Sam: 01:14:56

No, that's my recipe for disaster.

Sam: 01:15:03

Sam.

Sam: 01:15:04

Down to you, your number one.

Sam: 01:15:06

So by number one, the most spectacular disaster film ever.

Sam: 01:15:11

And it's just like the apex that I cannot deny is my number one

Sam: 01:15:15

is indeed Titanic, number one.

Trailer: 01:15:17

Hey,

Sam: 01:15:18

yeah.

Sam: 01:15:20

I mean, you said it all perfectly, so I will not repeat it, Nathan.

Sam: 01:15:23

But last hour, Titanic sinking the characters, just the Cecil B.

Sam: 01:15:26

DeMille grandeur of that movie remains jaw dropping to this day.

Bee: 01:15:34

I wonder if I can find a way to make it sound like Babel.

Bee: 01:15:36

I'm trying to attach every movie.

Bee: 01:15:37

It's kind of like Babylon.

Bee: 01:15:38

Good movie.

Bee: 01:15:39

Kind of like Babylon.

Bee: 01:15:43

Titanic rules.

Bee: 01:15:44

Have, has anyone seen the Celine Dion documentary on prime?

Bee: 01:15:47

It's a really good job.

Bee: 01:15:48

Nathan, are you trying to watch more docs this year?

Bee: 01:15:50

It's worth it.

Bee: 01:15:51

I'm trying.

Bee: 01:15:51

It's a good one.

Bee: 01:15:52

I

Nathan: 01:15:53

haven't failed.

Nathan: 01:15:55

I'm trying.

Sam: 01:15:55

And the, the, the visual effects too, like when the, when the ship is

Sam: 01:15:58

like sticking up in the air and like, The electricity gets knocked out and you just

Sam: 01:16:03

see like all the lights go out and it's silhouetted against the stars and you

Sam: 01:16:06

like hear all these like muffled yells.

Sam: 01:16:08

It's just like that gave me the chills in the theater.

Bee: 01:16:12

If we didn't have Titanic, we wouldn't have the oops

Bee: 01:16:15

I did it again music video,

Sam: 01:16:16

right?

Bee: 01:16:17

That's important.

Sam: 01:16:19

That is important.

Sam: 01:16:19

That is true.

Sam: 01:16:20

It's just the scale, the grandeur.

Sam: 01:16:23

Like I just love, and I love that we get to spend time and, and the, the

Sam: 01:16:28

brilliance of that movie is that, you know, like this is, this happens only the

Sam: 01:16:32

first time you see it, but you know that.

Sam: 01:16:34

The iceberg is coming, but you don't know when.

Sam: 01:16:37

So you're like enjoying the characters and enjoying the drama.

Sam: 01:16:39

But like, you're always like, Oh, you, you sense you're like, is it coming?

Sam: 01:16:43

Is it not?

Sam: 01:16:43

Like, you know, disaster is not far off.

Sam: 01:16:46

It's like looming out there.

Sam: 01:16:47

That's what gives that movie the epic terror.

Bee: 01:16:50

I love Kate Winslet.

Bee: 01:16:51

I love

Sam: 01:16:52

her.

Sam: 01:16:52

She's amazing.

Sam: 01:16:53

I mean, James Horner, I'm a huge, I, you're talking about

Sam: 01:16:57

you know, Titanic, perfect storm.

Sam: 01:17:00

Both James.

Sam: 01:17:01

Horner composed films and like, he's my second favorite

Sam: 01:17:05

composer alongside John Williams.

Sam: 01:17:07

Like, I love James Horner.

Sam: 01:17:09

Like, he just, there's a, a melancholy, beautiful tone in a lot of his music.

Sam: 01:17:14

Score for Avatar.

Sam: 01:17:16

Exactly.

Sam: 01:17:17

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:17:18

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:17:19

Alright.

Nathan: 01:17:20

I think this is really great list.

Nathan: 01:17:21

We don't have, it's funny, we don't have a lot of crossover.

Nathan: 01:17:24

Perfect.

Nathan: 01:17:24

Storm was on two of our lists and Titanic crossed over a little bit,

Nathan: 01:17:29

but this was a very diverse list.

Nathan: 01:17:31

So this is And Poseidon Adventure.

Nathan: 01:17:32

Inid is right.

Nathan: 01:17:33

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:17:33

Pose beside adventure, but not, can I

Bee: 01:17:35

ask if either of you, so I took it out of my list because

Bee: 01:17:39

I consider it a monster movie.

Bee: 01:17:40

Not necessarily disaster movie, but based on our loose definition here.

Bee: 01:17:44

Did either of you consider Jaws?

Bee: 01:17:47

I

Nathan: 01:17:47

didn't because I, it was, I, this, this, the monster movie.

Nathan: 01:17:52

And then there's that.

Nathan: 01:17:54

So I did not, which would be the same thing, like alien, you know, like, yeah.

Nathan: 01:17:59

I tend to think of

Sam: 01:18:00

like large of destruction, you know what I mean?

Sam: 01:18:03

Like mass, like scale, like waves, ships, that kind of thing.

Sam: 01:18:07

Like, Volcanoes.

Sam: 01:18:09

Yeah.

Sam: 01:18:09

Like definitely Dante's Peak.

Sam: 01:18:11

I like Dante's Peak and A Perfect Storm a lot.

Sam: 01:18:14

I'm surprised they weren't on my top five.

Sam: 01:18:16

It's just when it's, I mean, a lot of those, those films

Sam: 01:18:18

would be in my top 10 for sure.

Sam: 01:18:20

When you got to narrow it down to five, I, it's like, I would want to watch Dante's

Sam: 01:18:25

Peak more than Greenland, but I think Greenland is a better, Film, and I have

Sam: 01:18:30

to acknowledge that, even though I have a stronger emotional attachment to Dante's.

Nathan: 01:18:34

My other criteria is I didn't include like movies that

Nathan: 01:18:37

had like deadly viruses, even though that could be a disaster.

Nathan: 01:18:40

Yeah, I just decided like, you know what?

Nathan: 01:18:43

I wasn't going to go there.

Nathan: 01:18:44

I thought of that like I thought of World

Bee: 01:18:46

War Z or 28 Days Later, but then I was like, those

Bee: 01:18:49

are kind of monster movies.

Bee: 01:18:51

Yeah, I

Nathan: 01:18:51

didn't do zombies or viruses or things like that.

Nathan: 01:18:56

But you know what, I wasn't going to like tell you guys what to do.

Nathan: 01:18:58

So, by the way, I, I wanted to do this.

Nathan: 01:19:00

I wanted to break down the themes of our disaster movies based

Nathan: 01:19:05

on kind of like, so wet list.

Nathan: 01:19:07

And now I, now I have the wettest list of all four out of my five movies

Nathan: 01:19:12

are water based beside adventure.

Nathan: 01:19:15

The impossible Titanic and perfect storm are all water based movies,

Nathan: 01:19:19

except for knowing, which is kind of like apocalyptic type, you know, thing.

Nathan: 01:19:23

B, you're the most diverse of all of us.

Nathan: 01:19:25

You have an alien invasion, two water themed movies, one

Nathan: 01:19:29

volcano movie, one tornado movie.

Nathan: 01:19:31

Sam, also relatively diverse list, two asteroid comet themed movies,

Nathan: 01:19:38

two water themed movies in one movie.

Nathan: 01:19:40

I guess like Earth fighting back, like 2012 is I guess like, you

Nathan: 01:19:44

know, apocalyptic Earth movie.

Nathan: 01:19:47

So yeah, also pretty diverse.

Nathan: 01:19:49

I was the one that was really in the water.

Nathan: 01:19:51

I was the wettest.

Nathan: 01:19:51

You were.

Nathan: 01:19:52

You were swimming.

Nathan: 01:19:53

And yours

Sam: 01:19:54

was very oceanic.

Nathan: 01:19:55

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:19:56

It's not intentional.

Nathan: 01:19:57

I think maybe we just know how to tell ocean stories the best, maybe.

Sam: 01:20:01

I love ocean stories.

Sam: 01:20:03

And we

Bee: 01:20:03

figured out CGI water pretty early on, you know.

Bee: 01:20:08

Still looks good.

Nathan: 01:20:10

CGI

Sam: 01:20:10

water definitely improved a lot better than CGI fire.

Bee: 01:20:15

Yeah.

Sam: 01:20:17

Okay, but I guarantee I will say this now in Avatar 3 since

Sam: 01:20:21

there's going to be a volcano in it.

Sam: 01:20:22

I guarantee you James Cameron will take CGI fire to the next level.

Sam: 01:20:27

Do we know that?

Bee: 01:20:27

Is there a volcano in it?

Bee: 01:20:28

Yeah, there's a volcano

Sam: 01:20:29

in it, and there's a culture of Navi called the Ash

Sam: 01:20:32

People, and they're antagonistic.

Bee: 01:20:34

Oh my god, I can't wait.

Bee: 01:20:35

I love Avatar so much.

Bee: 01:20:37

Me too, I love it.

Bee: 01:20:38

I totally love it, yeah.

Bee: 01:20:38

Oh my god.

Bee: 01:20:40

Put that into my veins.

Bee: 01:20:44

So good.

Bee: 01:20:45

I bought the Light Up Avatar popcorn bowl, and it's been like a true joy in my life.

Bee: 01:20:50

It's really great.

Bee: 01:20:51

I'll bring it to our next gathering

Bee: 01:20:53

. Sam: If you ever invent an avatar drug, you should call it Awa

Nathan: 01:21:02

Okay.

Nathan: 01:21:03

I think it's time to wrap it up before you, thats a wrap on disasters before.

Nathan: 01:21:06

I just wanna, yeah, so we're gonna be taking a couple weeks

Nathan: 01:21:10

off and coming back on the 12th.

Nathan: 01:21:15

Of August with our 80s summer comedies theme.

Nathan: 01:21:21

We're going to have three weeks of 80s summer comedy, starting

Nathan: 01:21:24

off with Ernest goes to camp.

Nathan: 01:21:29

Looking forward to that.

Nathan: 01:21:31

Yes.

Nathan: 01:21:32

So we're so me and B, we're taking vacations.

Nathan: 01:21:36

So we are we are recording from the future past.

Nathan: 01:21:39

I think when this episode.

Nathan: 01:21:40

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:21:41

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:21:42

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:21:42

So we'll, we'll be back in a couple of weeks.

Nathan: 01:21:45

I may

Sam: 01:21:46

have to take a vacation as well.

Sam: 01:21:47

I did my vacation from my working vacation.

Sam: 01:21:49

I'm always trying to run away, so I might try to do something.

Sam: 01:21:52

I don't know.

Bee: 01:21:53

Let us know where you end up, man.

Sam: 01:21:55

I'll let you know if I go anywhere.

Sam: 01:21:57

We'll see.

Nathan: 01:21:58

All right, so this concludes our short two week mini retrospective

Nathan: 01:22:04

of Back to the Framerate enters the suck zone, as we briefly call

Trailer: 01:22:09

it.

Nathan: 01:22:11

And we'll be back in two weeks for 80 Summers Comedies

Nathan: 01:22:14

for the month of August.

Nathan: 01:22:16

Everyone you enjoy yourselves and I am gonna, I should really do my real wrap up.

Nathan: 01:22:22

That is our show this week.

Nathan: 01:22:24

Back to the frame rate is part of the Western

Sam: 01:22:28

Media Podcast.

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By the way.

Sam: 01:22:29

That's the end of the episode.

Sam: 01:22:31

I I forgot what I was going to say.

Sam: 01:22:33

I had a point that I thought was important to make and I really lost it.

Sam: 01:22:36

So I apologize.

Sam: 01:22:37

Was the point

Bee: 01:22:37

that it's the end of the episode.

Sam: 01:22:39

It was, but there was something about driving, driving somewhere.

Sam: 01:22:43

Damn it.

Sam: 01:22:43

I lost it.

Sam: 01:22:44

I'm just gone.

Sam: 01:22:44

Driving

Nathan: 01:22:44

in the end.

Nathan: 01:22:45

Drop it off in our socials, Sam.

Nathan: 01:22:47

When you think of it,

Sam: 01:22:48

right?

Sam: 01:22:48

Yeah, I'll

Nathan: 01:22:49

try.

Nathan: 01:22:49

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Nathan: 01:23:39

Signing off.

Nathan: 01:23:41

Woo!

Sam: 01:23:49

Frame rate, back to.

Sam: 01:23:58

I want you to know it's over.

Trailer: 01:24:02

Well, Oh,

Sam: 01:24:07

man, that was really

Trailer: 01:24:08

if you feel it