Mad Max: Fury Road (2015) / Mad May #4

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In the dying embers of human existence, as the asteroid, a

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behemoth the size of Texas, hurtles relentlessly toward Earth, the

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world braces for an apocalyptic end.

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Deep beneath the bunker, a refuge plunges into the bowels of the Earth.

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Here the chosen gather, their purpose clear, to preserve the

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very soul of our civilization.

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The 35 and 70 millimeter prints that encapsulate the magic, the emotion,

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and the dreams of generations past.

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Masterpieces.

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Each frame a testament to the human spirit are carefully cataloged and cradled in

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the cavernous confines of the bunker.

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Perhaps there was room for more.

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For friends and family yearning for salvation.

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But sacrifices must be made.

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The movie nerds stand united.

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The keepers of a flame.

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Promising a future where the art of storytelling endures, transcending

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the boundaries of time and space.

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God help us all.

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I am the

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scales of justice!

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The doctor of the choir

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of death!

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Sing brother!

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Sing brother!

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Sing!

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SING!

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I am Nathan sure in accompanying me.

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are the extraordinary movie mavens, Rihanna Butterworth and Sam Cole.

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It

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is time for Mad Max Franchise Draft, where you must both draft

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the ultimate cast of Mad Max characters to lead you into Valhalla.

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Are you ready for this?

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Born ready.

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Here is the scenario.

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After the events of Mad Max Fury Road, we've entered a time of peace.

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The war rig has been retired, and modifications have been made.

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And it now operates as a desert oasis ice cream truck, making frequent stops at the

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Citadel, Gas Town, and the Bullet Farm.

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But running a successful ice cream truck business is not easy.

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Your task now is to is to draft five people from the entire Mad

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Max franchise to run your business.

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And these are the five jobs, a CEO, a maintenance technician,

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a sales and marketing person, an ice cream scooper, and someone

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to drive the newly coined Tesla.

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Chill Chariot.

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All right.

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Who's going first?

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This is between both of you.

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I will keep track.

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So.

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What do you think, Bea?

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How would you like to go first?

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Bea?

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Sam?

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Bea?

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All right.

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I know who I want is.

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As long as you have all of these covered.

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Okay.

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Well, I know who I want is my driver.

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You can go first.

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Oh, Max.

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Max is your driver.

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First pick in the draft.

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All right.

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So for my CEO, I'd pick the the leader of the road warrior

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group that was in that compound.

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He, he died, but he'd, yeah.

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Papa Gallo.

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Oh

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shit.

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That's a good choice.

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Papa Gallo is your CEO.

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He would be.

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He'd be merciful too.

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He wouldn't be like, you know,

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he'd

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be a pretty good CEO.

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Yes.

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All right.

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First round is done.

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B you're on the clock.

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Okay, shit.

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For my scooper, I want Knux.

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Knux is your scooper.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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You think he might scare away the clientele?

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No.

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He's going to be scooping.

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He's fine.

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He's going to be scooping.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Have you seen people when they're tripping?

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They're going to get so much extra ice cream.

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They're

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so happy.

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That is true.

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For maintenance, I would definitely pick Furiosa.

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Shit!

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She was my seat.

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Damn it.

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Furiosa is your maintenance technician.

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Okay.

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Keeping the, the chill chariot, you know, functioning.

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And On its wheels turning.

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Very good.

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All right, round three.

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Yeah, no, for sure my CEO is the Vuvalini lady who can slide down a

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rope naked because she could take it.

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She could do anything.

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I don't know her name.

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I think it was the Valkyrie.

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She can, yeah, she's, phew.

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She's been through some shit.

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She has been alright.

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Sam, round three.

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So for

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sales, scooper, and a driver.

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So

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for sales and marketing, that would be the toe cutter

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because he'd be very flamboyant.

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He'd be like, come here.

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Why not?

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Why not?

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All right.

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Round four, B, you've got your sales and marketing and your

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maintenance technician left.

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Sure.

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Maintenance.

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I'm going gyrocopter pilot.

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Yes.

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All right.

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Gyro Captain, good pick.

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Yeah.

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Sam, Scooper and Driver are left.

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Scooper would be Immortan Joe.

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Oh my god, he's gonna affect your ice cream!

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Sam, I'm gonna win!

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I don't know,

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he's got those cancerous blisters on him, and

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He does, but I'm trying to be, I'm trying to be inclusive, you know?

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Oh my god.

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I like that you just have Hukey's burn twice.

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Yeah, that's true, yeah, yeah, exactly.

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He can, he can copy himself, you know?

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Yep.

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Yeah,

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perfect.

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Digitally.

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You've got one job left.

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That's just one page.

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Your sales and marketing.

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Tina Turner.

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I want anti entity.

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Anti entity is your sales.

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Yeah, I think that's not bad.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Can you read through our teams?

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Well, Sam's got one more to go.

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Okay.

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His driver.

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That would be the gyro captain.

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Well, he's taken.

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He's my maintenance guy.

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Oh, that's right.

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I forgot.

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One of one of those, like people on stilts that's like in the water place

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that got drained would be the driver.

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They're creepy.

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What used to be the green place or something.

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Yeah,

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yeah.

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That reminded me of like a boost

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or something.

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That reminded me of Labyrinth a little bit.

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That scene is like, it's suddenly spooky.

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You know what

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I thought of?

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I thought of the Dark Crystal.

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The Yeah.

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Those striders.

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What are they called?

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Yes.

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Lant

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striders.

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Yep.

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God, I love the Dark Crystal.

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They were

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very like, Muppet esque.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Here is your Your your company be your CEO is Valkyrie.

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Your sales and marketing is Auntie Entity.

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Your scooper is Nux.

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Your driver is Mad Max and your maintenance technician

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is the gyro captain.

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Yes.

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And Sam, your CEO is Papa Gallo.

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Your sales and marketing is Toe Cutter.

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Your scooper is Immortan Joe.

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Your driver are the, those guys on the walk around on the, on the stilts.

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And your maintenance technician is Furiosa.

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It's, it's kind of like the movie Moneyball where they pick the

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players that you don't think are going to be like incredible, but

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then my team turns out to be amazing.

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We shall see, you know, I'd love our listeners to chime in.

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Who do you want running your company of these two teams here?

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I don't know.

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I kind of, I kind of feel like I, I have to go with B's team here.

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I think there may be a little stronger.

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I'm really worried about a Morton Joe scooping and toe

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cutter running your sales.

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It's

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a bit it's a bit running

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sales would be really good because we're, we're in like a Post

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capitalism society here, you know,

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he's going to peace time though.

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I was telling you, so,

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okay.

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Well, if you hadn't already guessed, I don't know if you could have, but

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we watched Mad Max very Fury Road.

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And we're here to discuss this film.

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Wow.

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I've seen this, I know I watched this movie twice this past week and I'll

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get into that later in our review, but this was A lot of fun returning

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to this world this past week.

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And I can't wait to talk about this with you guys.

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So before we do I have a trailer that I will play for you guys.

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And it is right here.

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I hope I play the right clip.

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I have so many clips in my Zencast here, I might pick the wrong one.

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So I apologize.

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Here

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it is.

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Begin of this world!

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We are not things.

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We are not things!

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Where is she taking them?

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Yeah.

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So, and basically the plot is years after the collapse of civilization,

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the tyrannical and Morton Joe and slaves apocalypse survivors inside

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the desert fortress, the Citadel, when the warrior Imperator Furiosa played

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by Charlize Theron leads the despots.

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Yeah.

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This was five wives in a daring escape.

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She forges an alliance with Max Rakitansky.

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Played by Tom Hardy, a loner and former captive fortified in the

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massive armored truck, the war rig.

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They try to outrun the ruthless warlord and his henchmen in a deadly high

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speed chase through the wasteland.

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That about sums it up.

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Woo!

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So, Sam, do you have some movie facts?

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Absolutely.

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So, Mad Max Fury Road is a 2015 Australian post apocalyptic action

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film, co written, co produced, and directed by George Miller.

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Miller collaborated with Brendan McCarthy and Nico Lathouris on the screenplay.

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The fourth installment in the Mad Max franchise, it was produced by

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Village Roadshow Pictures, Rat Pack Dune Entertainment and Kennedy Miller

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Mitchell and distributed by Roadshow Entertainment in Australia and by Warner

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Brothers Pictures internationally.

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The film stars Tom Hardy, Charlize Theron with Nicholas Holt and returning

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cast member Hugh Keyes Byrne who was also the tail cutter in 1979's Mad

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Mix, Rosie Huntington Whitley, Riley Keogh and a bunch of other people

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who I'll talk about another time.

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Actually, you know, there was a long development hell on this project

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because Miller actually came up with the idea for Fury Road in 1987.

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But the film spent many years in development hell

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before pre

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production began in 1998 of all times.

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Uh, They actually attempted to shoot this film in the 2000s, but it was delayed

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numerous times due to the September 11th attacks, the Iraq war, obvious

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controversies surrounding star Mel Gibson, who was replaced uh, as Max Roccatansi.

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And it took a long time.

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And so Miller did not come back to this concept until after Happy Feet.

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In 2009, he announced that filming would begin in early 2011.

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Um, Hardy was actually cast as Max in June 2010.

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Anyway, this movie was a huge success.

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I'll go more into the production in a minute, but it premiered in Los

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Angeles on May 7th, 2015, and was released in Australia on May 14th.

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It grossed 380.

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4 million at the worldwide box office, making it the highest

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grossing Mad Max film to date.

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Praised by critics for its direction, writing, action sequences, musical score,

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technical aspects and performances, particularly those of Hardy and

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Theron, who did not famously get along.

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It won best film at the National Board of Review and was also named

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one of the top tens films of 2015 by the American Film Institute.

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Uh, Now some other interesting production info, which I'll, I'll show you.

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Give me a moment here.

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My three, my, my three year old child just chomped on my cigar, which has

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me a little bit concerned, but so they were actually playing the film

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at Broken Hill, New South Wales, a familiar location in close proximity

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to where the other films were shot.

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But after unexpected heavy rains caused wildflowers to grow in the desert around

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Broken Hill, not exactly post apocalyptic scenery, filming was moved from Broken

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Hill back to Namibia in November 2011.

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Which is fascinating because this was very Vastly different filming

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location, which I personally feel added to the desolate town of this film.

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Hard

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agree, Australian Sam, hard agree.

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And let's see cinematographer John Seal came out of retirement to

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shoot Fury Road, repracing Dean Semler.

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And they actually shot in a place called Dorob National Park.

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And one comment on the sound design that I just found fascinating over here.

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If I can here it is.

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Oh, right.

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Miller actually recruited his wife Margaret Sickle to edit the

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film as he felt she could make it stand out from other action films,

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which damn, she certainly did.

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My God, did she succeed.

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Sickle had 480 hours of footage to edit, which took 3 months to

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watch, I can't even imagine that.

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You have

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to be married to someone to go through that.

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That's just, unbelievable.

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Like, that's

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insane.

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The film contains about 2700 cuts in 120 minutes, or 22.

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5 cuts per minute.

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Compared to Mad Max 2, 1200 cuts in 90 minutes or 13.

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33 cuts per minute.

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Lastly, I'll say there's so much to talk about this movie.

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I could go on forever, but I'll stop.

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Sound designer, Mark Mangini stated that he viewed the wall rig as an allegory

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for Moby Dick with a Morton Joe playing the role of Captain Ahab as such.

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The mechanical truck sounds of the rig were layered with whale calls to

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provide a more animal like quality.

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When the tanker's pier was pierced with harpoons and milk sprays out,

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sounds of whales breathing from their blowholes were incorporated.

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For the final destruction of the wall rig, the only sounds used were slowed

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down bear growls to symbolize the death of a truck as a living creature.

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That's cool.

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This movie rips.

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Yep.

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Fury Road is

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Rockatansky radical in my opinion.

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I, you know, I want to say, uh, your Australian

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accent, Sam pretty mediocre.

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I, I'm surprised that that you could tell that it, that it wasn't real.

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Cause I, I personally thought it was incredible, but it was

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really good.

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You know what, but honestly, your, your your Australian accent is spot

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on to reminds me of Brian Brown.

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Remember Brian Brown, the actor?

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Yes, that's if I close my eyes, I think you're channeling him.

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He's still alive, but that's who reminded me of,

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I actually wasn't going to do it.

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Then I like dipped into it in the middle of the paragraph.

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And I was like, Oh man, now I'm stuck.

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I got to do it the whole way.

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I think you should keep it up the entire review.

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I want to add on to one or two things here.

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This, I think we mentioned this came out May 15th, 2015 top 10 at the box office.

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This did not debut.

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At number one, and that's amazing.

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Pitch perfect to debuted at the same day that this did 87.

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5 million pitch perfect to Mad Max debuted with 63.

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4 people.

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Andrew Kendrick released the cringiest tweet of all time.

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What was

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it?

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I don't remember.

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Oh, you know, so

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Anna Kendrick, star of Pitch Perfect 2, released a tweet that was like, I want

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to thank everyone for supporting my movie instead of the one with the supermodels.

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Like, I don't know.

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I think you missed the point.

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This is such a random comment, but when the Lord of the Rings 20th

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anniversary, they had a wrap on the Stephen Colbert show and for no reason

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out of the blue, it Elijah Wood is like, it's the best trilogy ever.

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Then he's like, that's right.

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Anna Kendrick's pitch perfect ain't

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shit.

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And then it cuts to a shot of her.

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And she was like, what the hell?

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I thought we were friends.

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Rounding out the top 10.

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I'll do this really quickly here.

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Cause we have a lot to talk about.

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Avengers Age of Ultron was number three in his third week.

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Made 50 million.

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Hot Pursuit was number four in the second week.

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Made 7.

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7.

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Furious seven.

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And it's seventh week made 4.

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7 age of Adeline and it's fourth week made 4.

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6 Paul Bart mall cop to number two and it's fifth week 4.

Nathan: 00:17:50

5 home.

Nathan: 00:17:52

I don't remember home.

Nathan: 00:17:53

I should, but in its eighth week, made 3.

Nathan: 00:17:56

3.

Nathan: 00:17:57

Far from the, from the Madding, I don't know if I wrote that right,

Nathan: 00:18:00

Madding crowd in its third week make 1.

Nathan: 00:18:02

8 million.

Nathan: 00:18:03

And finally, women in gold, I don't even know if you remember

Nathan: 00:18:06

this, in its eighth week made 1.

Nathan: 00:18:08

7 million.

Nathan: 00:18:09

So, that's what was going on about nine years ago.

Sam: 00:18:13

Boy, and now in May 2024, I mean you know, Kingdom of the Planet of the

Sam: 00:18:17

Apes is doing pretty well, but I must say this is so far has been kind of a tepid.

Nathan: 00:18:21

Oh, it's been a box office may.

Nathan: 00:18:23

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:18:23

I was just kind of depressing.

Sam: 00:18:25

Yeah.

Sam: 00:18:25

I

Nathan: 00:18:25

was reading Hollywood Reporter earlier today and it's

Nathan: 00:18:29

down 20 percent from last year, which I thought was far worse.

Nathan: 00:18:32

Cause if you think about the movies that have been, have come out and it's

Nathan: 00:18:34

been everything's been a disappointment pretty much most things have.

Nathan: 00:18:38

I think Godzilla X Kong, whatever it is, has been the only thing

Nathan: 00:18:42

and maybe, and Dune 2, really.

SFX: 00:18:45

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:18:45

It's been the really, only two successes that have been,

Bee: 00:18:48

we're seeing that shift of what I think are, are more interesting

Bee: 00:18:51

movies in the box office now.

Bee: 00:18:52

I mean, Q1's always dead, but it's not, people just aren't going out.

Bee: 00:18:56

How did,

Sam: 00:18:56

how did If perform at the box, I didn't, I know it got mediocre

Sam: 00:18:59

reviews, but I didn't check.

Sam: 00:19:00

Thirty, thirty

Nathan: 00:19:00

five, thirty five million, which is still lower than they wanted.

Sam: 00:19:04

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:19:05

But I, I have thoughts on If.

Nathan: 00:19:07

Well, I'm not gonna share right now.

Nathan: 00:19:08

We got

Bee: 00:19:09

to talk about the fall guy too.

Bee: 00:19:11

I know everybody's talking about the fall guy.

Bee: 00:19:12

There's nothing new to say.

Nathan: 00:19:13

I wonder

Sam: 00:19:15

if it's writer's strike related.

Sam: 00:19:17

They mentioned that, but it just, it seems it's so quiet this May.

Sam: 00:19:19

It just kind of hurts.

Sam: 00:19:20

I'm like, I can't, I really hope that.

Sam: 00:19:22

Fury Road ignites some robustness, you know, 'cause like Yeah, I think it would.

Sam: 00:19:27

I'm not Fury Road fur Osa fur.

Sam: 00:19:29

I keep doing

Nathan: 00:19:29

the same thing.

Sam: 00:19:30

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:19:31

One, a couple other things.

Nathan: 00:19:32

We'll do this really quickly.

Nathan: 00:19:33

You know, it wasn't a huge box office success.

Nathan: 00:19:36

At least people have the, the, the illusion that it

Nathan: 00:19:39

was, we, we mentioned that.

Nathan: 00:19:40

It was, I don't know what the actual box office, I'm sorry, what

Nathan: 00:19:44

the budget actually was for this.

Nathan: 00:19:45

There's a range between 1 54 to 180 5.

Nathan: 00:19:48

I keep reading, so I don't know what the firm number was, but it

Nathan: 00:19:51

made 180, I'm sorry, three 80.

Nathan: 00:19:53

Three 80, which sounds good, but it's not great.

Nathan: 00:19:57

People think that this did like a billion dollars and it didn't, and it really is a

Nathan: 00:20:02

minimal, minimal success when you consider the marketing that went into this movie.

Nathan: 00:20:07

So it, I think it did take a while.

Nathan: 00:20:09

For this movie, for a sequel a follow up to this to come out.

Nathan: 00:20:13

And that might've been part of it because we, people that are like us,

Nathan: 00:20:17

that are were fans of this movie.

Nathan: 00:20:19

I think it was a small niche audience that really loved this Mm-Hmm.

Nathan: 00:20:22

movie.

Nathan: 00:20:22

It was not a, a mainstream hit.

Sam: 00:20:26

It's also gained a lot over

Nathan: 00:20:28

time,

Sam: 00:20:28

like cost ratio.

Sam: 00:20:30

So like 380.

Sam: 00:20:32

It would be incredible if it was like, you know, a $10 million indie film.

Sam: 00:20:35

It, it certainly didn't fail.

Sam: 00:20:38

The movie was expensive, but it's still, so it's not big, but considering

Sam: 00:20:43

that there hadn't been anything in Mad Max since beyond Thunderdome, it was

Sam: 00:20:48

still robust enough for people to be like, wow, people like this because

Sam: 00:20:51

it could have in theory tanked, which I'm glad it didn't, you know, it was

Nathan: 00:20:55

a huge risk.

Nathan: 00:20:56

And that's the.

Nathan: 00:20:57

20, 15, this will be over, you know, two, well over 200 million in 2024 dollars too.

Nathan: 00:21:04

So it was, it was a very expensive movie to make

Bee: 00:21:08

and it shows every dollar is on the screen.

Nathan: 00:21:11

It totally is.

Bee: 00:21:12

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:21:12

Awards.

Nathan: 00:21:13

It did very well, as we know one cost and design.

Nathan: 00:21:17

At the Academy Awards, costume design, film editing, makeup and hair styling,

Nathan: 00:21:20

production design, sound editing, sound mixing was nominated for visual

Nathan: 00:21:24

effects, but lost to Ex Machina obviously lost to Spotlight for Best Picture,

Nathan: 00:21:30

and lost to George Miller lost Best Director to Alejandro Iñárritu for The

Nathan: 00:21:36

Revenant that year, and Cinematography also lost to The Revenant, so

Bee: 00:21:41

Having recently watched The Revenant with all of you, What a miss.

Bee: 00:21:45

What a miss.

Bee: 00:21:46

Yeah, I think even

Nathan: 00:21:47

that episode we were kind of lamenting that maybe they got it wrong.

Nathan: 00:21:51

Yeah, wouldn't be the first time.

Nathan: 00:21:53

Can't, can't really, you know, Revenant had its, had its, had its qualities, but.

Nathan: 00:21:58

I

Sam: 00:21:58

still can't believe 2015 is nine years ago.

Sam: 00:22:00

I just like, Fury Road feels recent in my mind, you know,

Sam: 00:22:04

it's like almost a decade old.

Sam: 00:22:06

It messes with me.

Nathan: 00:22:07

Same.

Nathan: 00:22:08

All right.

Nathan: 00:22:09

So.

Nathan: 00:22:10

Sam, you drew the short straw tonight.

Nathan: 00:22:13

So you're gonna, no, it wasn't Sam, Bee, Bee drew the short straw.

Nathan: 00:22:17

I mean, I'd be happy

Bee: 00:22:18

to let Sam go first.

Bee: 00:22:19

I hate going first.

Nathan: 00:22:22

Throwing you into this.

Nathan: 00:22:23

So lead us into Valhalla, Bee.

Bee: 00:22:25

Yeah.

Bee: 00:22:26

It is not a surprise.

Bee: 00:22:28

This movie, high.

Bee: 00:22:30

Octane.

Bee: 00:22:31

I love it.

Bee: 00:22:32

I absolutely adore this movie.

Bee: 00:22:34

I think it's a stone cold masterpiece.

Bee: 00:22:37

And it's probably one of my favorite movies the last 10 years.

Bee: 00:22:40

I mean, it really, it's something I come back to a lot.

Bee: 00:22:42

I love that this movie dumps you in the middle of another movie.

Bee: 00:22:48

Like, you don't realize when, when you open and there's the,

Bee: 00:22:52

the voiceover that he's mid chase.

Bee: 00:22:55

And I think that's.

Bee: 00:22:56

So smart.

Bee: 00:22:57

Obviously Theron Charlize Theron's performance is a total standout.

Bee: 00:23:02

But everyone in this movie just feels so three dimensional no matter

Bee: 00:23:07

how much screen time they have.

Bee: 00:23:09

And I think that's really a credit to Miller's world building.

Bee: 00:23:14

And, and how, you know, I keep coming back to, I really think George Miller's

Bee: 00:23:18

just remaking the first Mad Max over and over and over again with more money and

Bee: 00:23:24

more, but more tools at his disposal.

Bee: 00:23:27

One of the things I want to talk to you all about here is I think that,

Bee: 00:23:31

you know, it's a, it's a really straightforward A to B plot, but the.

Bee: 00:23:37

Filmic language of this movie.

Bee: 00:23:39

I mean, he's just such a visual storyteller.

Bee: 00:23:42

You really get the sense of he could be making silent movies here.

Bee: 00:23:46

The, the color grading I think is a super interesting choice

Bee: 00:23:51

and, and how he tells the story.

Bee: 00:23:53

How he fucks with the frame rate, I think is really interesting.

Bee: 00:23:56

I mean, I heard a lot about that.

Bee: 00:23:58

So I want to talk and Nathan, I want to ask you for the color grading, if it

Bee: 00:24:01

mattered, if you watch it in black and Chrome, if that changed anything for you.

Nathan: 00:24:06

Yes.

Nathan: 00:24:07

I'm going to get to that though.

Bee: 00:24:08

Okay.

Bee: 00:24:09

All right.

Bee: 00:24:09

I want to talk about it.

Nathan: 00:24:10

I do have.

Nathan: 00:24:11

I, I do, I do have, yeah, I will, you have feelings, okay, I do have feelings,

Bee: 00:24:16

yeah,

Nathan: 00:24:17

I'm going to be part of my review,

Bee: 00:24:18

okay it's interesting how this movie is, I heard someone, I forget who say

Bee: 00:24:24

this movie felt like a representation of what it's like to be on Twitter.

Bee: 00:24:30

All the time, just relentless.

Bee: 00:24:32

Everything's coming at you and then out of nowhere someone screams,

Bee: 00:24:35

I am the scales of justice!

Bee: 00:24:36

Don't start that way about sucker punch.

Bee: 00:24:40

A worse movie.

Bee: 00:24:42

I was not expecting when I watched this movie, having seen all the

Bee: 00:24:45

previous Mad Maxes, this to be a statement piece on feminist liberation.

Bee: 00:24:50

And coming out a month before, Trump announces candidacy, it

Bee: 00:24:55

is impossible for me to separate this movie from that time period.

Bee: 00:25:00

I really, I think about that a lot and the It really, it's in all the movies,

Bee: 00:25:07

but in here you really notice the absence of culture the absence of arts, the

Bee: 00:25:14

absence of things that bring societies together, and you're really brought back

Bee: 00:25:19

to our, you know, Maslow's basic needs and Yeah, it was just, it's a crazy time.

Bee: 00:25:25

And I think it's the perfect movie for the time when it came out.

Bee: 00:25:28

So balls to the wall, action masterpiece, perfect movie.

Bee: 00:25:32

10 out of 10, five out of five.

Nathan: 00:25:34

And I want to say one thing about the whole Trump thing.

Nathan: 00:25:38

I agree with you, but I'm really glad that this did not come out during.

Nathan: 00:25:44

Trump during that it was right

Bee: 00:25:48

on the precipice when it seemed like a ridiculous

Nathan: 00:25:50

notion that we would end up there had come out during the, during

Nathan: 00:25:55

the, during the Trump, Trump campaign or during his presence presidency.

Nathan: 00:26:00

I think this would have had a whole different spotlight on it.

Nathan: 00:26:03

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:26:04

And I'm glad that I can look at this movie kind of separate from that also.

Nathan: 00:26:09

And I don't think about this as a commentary on, on that.

Nathan: 00:26:13

And I'm glad that this lives.

Nathan: 00:26:14

In that separately from that, because I think it would, I can

Nathan: 00:26:18

enjoy it is not a commentary on it.

Bee: 00:26:21

I don't think it's a commentary on it, but I do think.

Bee: 00:26:25

In hindsight and in rapid succession, going from seeing this movie to sort

Bee: 00:26:31

of what we all lived through in 2016, it really adds a different weight

Bee: 00:26:37

to the viewing experience for me.

Bee: 00:26:42

Alright, now it's your turn, Sam.

Bee: 00:26:44

Woo!

Sam: 00:26:45

Go, go,

Bee: 00:26:45

go, go, go!

Sam: 00:26:46

So detritus, poorly shot.

Sam: 00:26:49

No, just kidding.

Sam: 00:26:49

It's incredible.

Sam: 00:26:50

No, I, I love this movie.

Sam: 00:26:51

I, for me, the action in this feels like sequences from like Terminator

Sam: 00:26:58

two or speed if they're new.

Sam: 00:27:01

Turned into a whole movie with a cast of like hundreds added to the action scenes.

Sam: 00:27:06

I love how freewheeling and free the movie is.

Sam: 00:27:10

It is not like hindered by exposition.

Sam: 00:27:14

It tells the story on the run.

Sam: 00:27:16

And so part of the reason that the characters feel so three dimensional and

Sam: 00:27:19

so real is because you learn about them.

Sam: 00:27:22

On the move in the perfect visual medium of storytelling, you know, they, they

Sam: 00:27:26

don't stop and talk about the plot.

Sam: 00:27:28

There's no moment where a Morton Joe is like, I spent so long building this

Sam: 00:27:33

place and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Sam: 00:27:35

It's just like excellent visual storytelling.

Sam: 00:27:39

It's like, it's like if the third act of road warrior was like turned into a movie

Sam: 00:27:44

with like a plot, like, you know, strung around it, but just, and, and, and I love.

Sam: 00:27:50

I also feel the apocalyptic land is truly ominous in this film.

Sam: 00:27:57

This movie, of all the Mad Max's, has the most shots of It always terrifies me

Sam: 00:28:03

when they're well ahead of like, Immortan Joe's armada and they have to stop.

Sam: 00:28:08

Or there's a problem with the war rig and you see this fleet of like

Sam: 00:28:11

vehicles in the distance and you have time to dread their approach.

Sam: 00:28:16

You're like, my God, they're on their way.

Sam: 00:28:18

I love the night scene when it gets dark and like the sniper and he takes out.

Sam: 00:28:23

I love the fact that they have to, like, turn around and go

Sam: 00:28:27

back into the fray at the end.

Sam: 00:28:28

It's just so.

Sam: 00:28:29

So visceral and so well done.

Sam: 00:28:31

I love the movie now.

Sam: 00:28:32

I'll be honest when I saw it in 2015 I liked it a lot.

Sam: 00:28:35

It took me a moment to adjust to the choppy frame rate and it was

Sam: 00:28:39

also so Saturated and colorful compared to the more gritty, dusty,

Bee: 00:28:45

radioactive.

Sam: 00:28:47

Yeah, like exactly like dusty dirt look of like Road Warrior.

Sam: 00:28:51

And so, but I mean, ultimately, I mean, I love this film for me personally,

Sam: 00:28:56

as crazy as it sounds, it would still be my second favorite because Road

Sam: 00:29:00

Warrior just have this really like strong visceral connection to, but

Sam: 00:29:04

like Fury Road is just a spectacular action film through and through.

Sam: 00:29:11

Relentless, great music.

Sam: 00:29:13

Great.

Sam: 00:29:13

It's like, it's like the, the antithesis and the, and the

Sam: 00:29:17

ultimate course correction from beyond Thunderdome, even though it

Sam: 00:29:21

has nothing to do with that film.

Sam: 00:29:22

Like they're, they're separated by years.

Sam: 00:29:25

It's, this is a terrible, I always use like Bond, James Bond for

Sam: 00:29:28

everything, even when it doesn't apply, but like, I think it

Bee: 00:29:32

totally applies.

Sam: 00:29:33

Whenever there's a Bond film that goes to like campier in one

Sam: 00:29:36

direction, they course correct and they make an edgier Bond.

Sam: 00:29:38

This is like Mad Max, like back to form.

Sam: 00:29:42

And it's like the ultimate version of it.

Sam: 00:29:44

And so when I say it's my second favorite, it's like they're

Sam: 00:29:48

literally almost equivalent.

Sam: 00:29:50

And Road Warrior only has like a centimeter above it, like half a

Sam: 00:29:54

centimeter because of a childhood.

Sam: 00:29:56

it was my introduction to that world.

Sam: 00:29:59

So I would give this movie just a brave, like four and a half stars.

Sam: 00:30:04

Awesome.

Sam: 00:30:05

You know, just a, like thumbs up from me without going into like plot details

Sam: 00:30:10

and stuff, which we'll discuss, but like, yeah, I just, Amazing action,

Sam: 00:30:14

incredible, visceral filmmaking, fast paced, relentless, endlessly relentless.

Sam: 00:30:21

And I love that it never slows down and like stops to like shift gears.

Sam: 00:30:26

It's not one of those films where it's like, Oh, the middle act was

Sam: 00:30:29

great, then it runs out of gas.

Sam: 00:30:31

It's like, Thrott pedal to the metal the whole entire way.

Sam: 00:30:34

It's incredible.

Bee: 00:30:35

Talking about that tension, Sam, I feel that so strongly and I know I'm

Bee: 00:30:40

just buckled in for the best movie ever when they drive into that sandstorm.

Sam: 00:30:45

Oh, the sandstorm is incredible.

Sam: 00:30:46

Even when like That's

Bee: 00:30:47

incredible.

Bee: 00:30:48

It's

Sam: 00:30:48

amazing.

Sam: 00:30:48

Or like when Charlize Theron like Decides to deviate from the course

Sam: 00:30:52

and like turns off into the desert.

Sam: 00:30:54

I'm already nervous.

Sam: 00:30:55

I'm like, oh my god the army is gonna come after her like the movie is Makes

Sam: 00:30:59

i'm like and in the best possible way It drives me nuts that max is

Sam: 00:31:04

not able to get that thing off his face for like 35 40 minutes I'm, like

Sam: 00:31:08

get it off

Sam: 00:31:08

get it

Sam: 00:31:09

off

Nathan: 00:31:10

I timed it's 45 minutes of this movie.

Nathan: 00:31:13

This movie has the balls to cover Tom Hardy's face for 45 minutes of this

Nathan: 00:31:18

movie where we don't see his face clean I mean, that's that's crazy.

Nathan: 00:31:22

That's crazy and the comment on that sandstorm.

Nathan: 00:31:24

I also agree that it's it's so it's insane It felt felt dangerous

Nathan: 00:31:29

visceral and it's also gorgeous.

Nathan: 00:31:31

It's just wondering what the hell is going on.

Nathan: 00:31:35

I mean, is this a sandstorm?

Nathan: 00:31:36

Is this like like a nuclear tornado that's happening?

Nathan: 00:31:40

Is this the

Bee: 00:31:40

wrath of God?

Bee: 00:31:42

I mean, it's huge.

Bee: 00:31:43

It's

Sam: 00:31:43

huge.

Sam: 00:31:44

And like the movie perfectly uses like CGI.

Sam: 00:31:48

Well, because obviously it has all the cars, all the rear wings.

Sam: 00:31:50

But when it does use CGI, it uses it.

Sam: 00:31:53

In the best possible way, not to replace something, but to augment, like, just

Sam: 00:31:58

the vastness of, you know, the Citadel or like even at the beginning when Max

Sam: 00:32:03

is trying to escape and he's like running around and he's like going through all

Sam: 00:32:06

those tunnels and he comes to the cliff's edge and they pull him back in, it's just

Sam: 00:32:10

like a nightmare escape, you know what I

Bee: 00:32:12

mean?

Bee: 00:32:13

And I want to get to your view, Nathan, but to your point, like,

Bee: 00:32:16

it's It should be held up as the example for what is possible with

Bee: 00:32:22

this technology, even nine years ago.

Bee: 00:32:25

And instead in the subsequent nine years, we've gotten flatter.

Bee: 00:32:28

We've gotten duller, we've gotten cheaper.

Bee: 00:32:31

And it's just to return to this is just, I'm excited to see Furiosa.

Bee: 00:32:36

I'm excited for a return to form.

Nathan: 00:32:39

I'm going to, I have a comment on why I think that is as well, but well,

Nathan: 00:32:45

There are very few films that I recall seeing in the theater and

Nathan: 00:32:50

screaming at the screen shouting, yes,

Nathan: 00:32:53

yes, yes.

Nathan: 00:32:56

And back in 2015, this, this movie had several of those moments.

Nathan: 00:33:00

And I remember sitting next to my wife at the moment who did not like this movie.

Nathan: 00:33:05

Mind you.

Nathan: 00:33:05

So it was, it was a little awkward, but like, well, you may laugh, but that

Nathan: 00:33:09

other film I recall was 1995's Desperado.

Nathan: 00:33:13

From Robert Rodriguez, which I just remember having a blast with.

Nathan: 00:33:17

It was so entertaining and so very different movie, but very different.

Nathan: 00:33:23

So at the top, I just want to say, you know, what I love most about this film is

Nathan: 00:33:27

that it feels like an independent film.

Nathan: 00:33:29

Yes.

Nathan: 00:33:30

You know, I know where we're in the future and probably an alternate reality.

Nathan: 00:33:35

But, you know, I feel like if Universal Studios, Disney or another

Nathan: 00:33:40

big studio had their hands all over this, it would have that look and

Nathan: 00:33:43

feel of a big conglomerate behind it.

Nathan: 00:33:46

And I love the fact that this film feels like a singular

Nathan: 00:33:50

vision from a master craftsman.

Nathan: 00:33:52

Yes.

Nathan: 00:33:52

There's not a whiff.

Nathan: 00:33:54

Product placement.

Nathan: 00:33:56

I don't feel like I'm being sold Coke or Apple products.

Nathan: 00:34:00

You know that if George Miller wasn't behind this, you would see

Nathan: 00:34:06

old Coke bottles or repurposed iMac doing something in this great point.

Nathan: 00:34:11

I don't see any of this.

Nathan: 00:34:12

So saying the other thing is, so saying Fury road has amazing

Nathan: 00:34:15

action is an understatement.

Nathan: 00:34:16

And we've all talked about this already, but for me, what

Nathan: 00:34:20

sets this film apart from.

Nathan: 00:34:22

Any action film is that it's not just action for the sake of action.

Nathan: 00:34:28

Immediately we're thrown into this chase slash escape film.

Nathan: 00:34:32

And but we're riding through the desert and George Miller is weaving story in the

Nathan: 00:34:39

entire time and character development.

Nathan: 00:34:42

I've watched so many films.

Nathan: 00:34:45

Over the years.

Nathan: 00:34:46

And when it comes to these types of scenes, I find myself looking at my watch,

Nathan: 00:34:50

praying for just a wrap up so we can get back to the plot because it's rare that

Nathan: 00:34:55

you see, you know, anything new under the sun, Fury road has great action moments,

Nathan: 00:35:00

but it's not always necessarily doing.

Nathan: 00:35:03

Anything new with action.

Nathan: 00:35:04

I just think it's painting with a much broader brush, but because Miller

Nathan: 00:35:08

has planted the seeds with great storytelling and where we care about Max

Nathan: 00:35:15

and Furiosa and Nux and in the brides.

Nathan: 00:35:18

Well, maybe to some extent, I think Perhaps my only great with the movie

Nathan: 00:35:22

is with how they use the brides or the wives in this movie a little bit.

Nathan: 00:35:26

But even some of the mini bosses, which which I think they flesh out

Nathan: 00:35:29

in with some great characterizations.

Nathan: 00:35:31

I'm invested in this movie, like a cat watching a laser pointer.

Nathan: 00:35:38

Yes, same.

Nathan: 00:35:40

This is a five star movie.

Nathan: 00:35:42

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:35:43

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:35:44

And that's it.

Sam: 00:35:45

I, I also, there's a, there's a humorous moment that I love that just

Sam: 00:35:49

like, I laughed out loud in the theater.

Sam: 00:35:50

I love this moment.

Sam: 00:35:51

It's when Nux is like talking to a Morton Joe and I can't remember

Sam: 00:35:54

the exact dialogue, but he's like, I will climb onto the truck.

Sam: 00:35:57

I will do this.

Sam: 00:35:58

And a Morton Joe is like, if you pull this off, I will meet you in Valhalla.

Sam: 00:36:02

And like the music soars and you, you're like, Oh, this is going

Sam: 00:36:05

to be this epic character moment.

Sam: 00:36:06

Then he trips and falls and a Morton Joe is like,

Nathan: 00:36:08

I have a clip right here.

Nathan: 00:36:11

It's like, Yeah.

Nathan: 00:36:12

What he tells him,

Nathan: 00:36:18

that's what he

SFX: 00:36:18

tells.

Bee: 00:36:19

Let me see, you know, I talked about the, the visual storytelling language,

Bee: 00:36:23

but the actual, I'm all the Mad Max movies have this, but the actual language in

Bee: 00:36:28

this movie It's so close to gobbledygook, but you know exactly what they're saying.

Bee: 00:36:34

It's really, it's really well done.

Bee: 00:36:36

And I also noticed, I don't know if you all caught this, but in the beginning of

Bee: 00:36:39

the movie, you hear these voiceover, not the, the big intro that Max is doing, but

Bee: 00:36:46

it's sort of recalled the radios from the first movie that gave you a little hint

Bee: 00:36:53

of the plot, because you really had to tune into those radios from the first one.

Bee: 00:36:57

I was like, Oh, that's super cool.

Bee: 00:36:58

There were lots of little nods like that to, to the past

Bee: 00:37:01

movies that I thought were cool.

Sam: 00:37:04

There were so many of those.

Sam: 00:37:05

I liked that like at the beginning and just like the, there's the sound

Sam: 00:37:09

design is like incredible in this movie.

Sam: 00:37:12

I

Sam: 00:37:12

I'll say what, what I'm fascinated by when we talk about Furiosa, cause

Sam: 00:37:16

we haven't seen it yet, but like.

Sam: 00:37:18

This movie takes place over three days or like two and a half days.

Sam: 00:37:22

Furiosa takes place over 15 years and I can't wait to see how that

Sam: 00:37:28

movie like moves or like, I just, it's going to be very different

Sam: 00:37:31

and feel, but I'm so open to it.

Sam: 00:37:33

Like I just had this feeling, and I could be wrong that Furiosa.

Sam: 00:37:38

Will really compliment Fury Road and like the two movies will be like

Sam: 00:37:44

blood brothers, but we'll find out.

Sam: 00:37:46

I don't know.

Sam: 00:37:47

I'm excited.

Nathan: 00:37:49

So world building in this, I think is a real strength of this and I

Nathan: 00:37:53

think it starts off right off the bat.

Nathan: 00:37:56

We're at the Citadel in the beginning here.

Nathan: 00:37:57

I mean, obviously there's that great chase.

Nathan: 00:37:59

There's a little chase in the beginning.

Nathan: 00:38:01

We never get enough of the Interceptor.

Nathan: 00:38:03

Ever in these movies.

Nathan: 00:38:05

I feel like this is, we're so teased.

Nathan: 00:38:07

We see that monologue and, and Max's is chased down in his, in his

Nathan: 00:38:11

interceptors destroyed right away.

Nathan: 00:38:13

Immediately.

Nathan: 00:38:14

And I wonder if we're ever going to get a Max real strong, like interceptor scene.

Nathan: 00:38:20

Well, Max barely

Bee: 00:38:21

drives

Nathan: 00:38:21

at all in this movie.

Nathan: 00:38:23

He, he, he, not, not much, but.

Nathan: 00:38:26

I love that opening scene where he is chased through the Citadel.

Nathan: 00:38:29

And the one thing I really am not really, I think kind of feels like a very dated

Nathan: 00:38:34

thing is where the, we see those little flashbacks of his, of his son, I think

Nathan: 00:38:39

it is, or whatever it is, it's feels very like saw esque or something, a horror.

Nathan: 00:38:46

And I'm not a fan of it.

Bee: 00:38:48

Yeah, it's, I get what you're saying.

Bee: 00:38:51

I think it's used so specifically.

Bee: 00:38:52

I don't think it hurts the movie.

Bee: 00:38:55

I read somewhere that it was a daughter or, or something.

Bee: 00:39:00

Glory, the child.

Bee: 00:39:01

I don't know.

Bee: 00:39:01

Everyone's got a name, but it, I, I, I like that.

Bee: 00:39:06

It shows that it makes him mad.

Bee: 00:39:08

It puts the mad in Mad Max.

Bee: 00:39:10

Did you, so yeah, I

Sam: 00:39:11

felt like it's just another version of him, him

Sam: 00:39:14

showing that he lost his family.

Sam: 00:39:15

You know what I mean?

Sam: 00:39:16

Like it's, it's like the.

Sam: 00:39:18

I mean, I, but I, I agree with you, Nathan, the visuals.

Sam: 00:39:20

That's why for me, some of the visuals on the frame rate stuff, for me,

Sam: 00:39:25

sometimes feel like they're a device to cover up the difficulty of some stunts.

Sam: 00:39:31

So if you take a frame here and you remove a frame here, like

Sam: 00:39:33

just, you know what I mean?

Sam: 00:39:34

Like there's, there's a bit of a finesse.

Sam: 00:39:37

Where I love it when it's the grit of road warrior where it's like,

Sam: 00:39:42

it's looks like it's almost not color time and it's just like dirt.

Sam: 00:39:46

And you know what I mean?

Sam: 00:39:47

Like so those little tweaky things you're talking about, I get that.

Sam: 00:39:50

It doesn't bother me that much, but I hear what you're saying.

Nathan: 00:39:52

But I got off track with the world building, what I was trying to,

Nathan: 00:39:55

what I got off track was, I just love that we are really fleshing out this

Nathan: 00:39:59

world at the Citadel, you know, here we have the society, you know, that, you

Nathan: 00:40:04

know, there's no papers or filing system.

Nathan: 00:40:06

And what they do is, you know, they, they, they.

Nathan: 00:40:10

They brand people and they tattoo people, their vitals on them.

Nathan: 00:40:13

And I, and I, and I just love how we see a city with people.

Nathan: 00:40:17

We see how it operates with the war boys and it's a functioning community.

Nathan: 00:40:21

I'm not saying that Morton Joe is a nice guy.

Nathan: 00:40:25

Yes, it's a totalitarian regime.

Nathan: 00:40:27

But it's organized, and you can see how the world has progressed.

Bee: 00:40:31

It's interesting how quickly people wanted to, to create that, like, someone

Bee: 00:40:37

has to stand up and be like, I'm the king after everything goes to shit.

Bee: 00:40:41

I like it

Sam: 00:40:41

when he's saying, like, don't get addicted to water, and you're like,

Sam: 00:40:44

oh my god, but like, did you notice, like, to me, this symbolism, it felt

Sam: 00:40:47

like on purpose, and I really liked it, but when he's walking towards

Sam: 00:40:50

the room, To find out if his wives are still there, but they're missing.

Sam: 00:40:55

There's a vent fan that casts a shadow on the door and it looks like it

Sam: 00:40:58

purposefully looks like a swastika to me.

Sam: 00:41:01

Like it's like, because he's like Nazi people.

Sam: 00:41:04

I, the first time I saw that in the theater, I was like, Ooh, that's

Sam: 00:41:07

brilliantly well done because it's a fan, but it's rotating and it's the shadow.

Sam: 00:41:11

To me, it looks like a swastika basically saying like, look

Sam: 00:41:15

at this, like terrifying, like totalitarian Aryan, like it's, it's

Sam: 00:41:19

like, it's like subliminal evil.

Sam: 00:41:21

You know what I mean?

Sam: 00:41:22

Like that?

Sam: 00:41:22

I just, I love that.

Sam: 00:41:24

To me that felt like it was on purpose.

Sam: 00:41:26

Yeah.

Bee: 00:41:27

I think.

Bee: 00:41:27

He's one of the scariest.

Bee: 00:41:30

I mean, I, I kind of think the series has a villain problem until

Bee: 00:41:33

you get to a Morton Joe, although I also really like toe cutter.

Bee: 00:41:37

I think he's great.

Bee: 00:41:37

So I don't know if it's just what keys burns brings to Miller's

Bee: 00:41:42

work as just an interpreter of it.

Bee: 00:41:44

But

Sam: 00:41:45

are you kidding me?

Sam: 00:41:45

Tina Turner was terrifying.

Bee: 00:41:49

Yeah, but I, I just, I thought that was great.

Bee: 00:41:51

Did you see the vitals?

Bee: 00:41:53

Did anyone catch the vitals?

Nathan: 00:41:56

No lumps,

Bee: 00:41:57

no bumps, genitals intact.

Nathan: 00:41:59

And yeah, there was some, there was some good stuff on there.

Nathan: 00:42:02

I meant, I was actually going to pause it and write it down, but I

Nathan: 00:42:04

figured we wouldn't really get to it.

Nathan: 00:42:06

I like, and Morton Joe keeps his wives locked away in a bank vault.

Nathan: 00:42:12

The size of that door.

Nathan: 00:42:13

Like where are they going to go?

Nathan: 00:42:15

Like that thing is, it's crazy.

Nathan: 00:42:17

Like huge.

Bee: 00:42:19

Oh, man.

Bee: 00:42:20

It's crazy.

Bee: 00:42:20

That the whole like Citadel is really, I mean, we see it really briefly and we

Bee: 00:42:26

get everything we need to know about it.

Bee: 00:42:29

I mean, there's people who operate the levers.

Bee: 00:42:32

There's people who blow talcum powder on a Morton Joe.

Bee: 00:42:35

There's aqua cola.

Nathan: 00:42:37

I love the when everybody's mobilizing and they start chanting

Nathan: 00:42:41

V8, V8, V8, you know what?

Nathan: 00:42:44

Huge marketing opportunity blown away by blown by the V8 vegetable

Nathan: 00:42:49

juice makers, why there was not cross promotion because they didn't do

Nathan: 00:42:53

happy meals or anything like that.

Nathan: 00:42:56

But V8 vegetable juice guys on it.

Nathan: 00:43:00

All right, you blew it.

Sam: 00:43:02

I saw this with a friend of mine at the man's Chinese theater in 2015.

Sam: 00:43:06

And I won't mention his name cause I, it's sort of like throwing him under the

Sam: 00:43:09

bus with one comment, but like, and he's, he's a, he's a great guy, but We were

Sam: 00:43:14

talking about film production afterwards.

Sam: 00:43:16

Cause I was, you know, it was, I was making the short, he was like, yeah, you

Sam: 00:43:18

know, I think I really liked that movie.

Sam: 00:43:21

He's like, and I asked him, I was like, how much did you think fury road costs?

Sam: 00:43:24

And he was like, Oh, definitely no more than 30 million.

Sam: 00:43:27

And I was like, I

Nathan: 00:43:31

was like 30, but no way, no way people don't think there's.

Nathan: 00:43:35

Any CG, any CG in this movie, it's so cleverly disguised in this.

Nathan: 00:43:41

This is like

Sam: 00:43:41

CG done right.

Sam: 00:43:43

Like I'm, I'm not anti CG.

Sam: 00:43:45

I just like it when it's used purposefully and cleverly and a quick

Sam: 00:43:50

comment, but a movie like, um, Boat.

Sam: 00:43:52

I don't, I think it's called boat cruise with the rocks or

Sam: 00:43:55

that jungle boat or something.

Sam: 00:43:56

Yeah.

Sam: 00:43:57

Jungle cruise.

Sam: 00:43:58

That movie to me is like the laziest, it's like CGI river, CGI boat, CGI trees.

Sam: 00:44:05

And it's like, could you guys have maybe like gone on location in Hawaii?

Sam: 00:44:09

Like maybe they did, but it's like, just, just get a boat, you know, like Jesus.

Sam: 00:44:14

I don't know.

Sam: 00:44:14

That's just me.

Nathan: 00:44:16

I agree.

Nathan: 00:44:17

I want you guys to comment on this as well, but favorite scene or sequence in

Nathan: 00:44:22

the movie is after Furiosa has gone rogue.

Nathan: 00:44:27

And I like the fact that it doesn't really, there's no great moment where

Nathan: 00:44:31

she can veer off course because it's a straight shot all the way to gas town.

Nathan: 00:44:36

And it's just a matter of when she does it.

Nathan: 00:44:38

Cause she's got bullet farmers on her ass.

Nathan: 00:44:41

I know, but she turns and then.

Nathan: 00:44:43

When the war party is introduced.

Nathan: 00:44:45

And I just love that moment where it's, it reminds me a little bit of like how

Nathan: 00:44:50

they introduced that, that, that shot.

Nathan: 00:44:51

We fly over everybody in the road warrior, but this is like amped up even more.

Nathan: 00:44:56

So Max is hitched up to, to Nuxie's the blood bag in this moment.

Nathan: 00:45:01

And they're chasing after Furiosa and we see the giant rig.

Nathan: 00:45:04

I'm calling it the Coachella truck.

Nathan: 00:45:05

And from behind and you get the war boys playing the drums and they got the

Nathan: 00:45:10

war call, we swing over the front of the truck and reveal, I guess, Doof,

Nathan: 00:45:17

was it Doof, the mutant is shredding a fucking flamethrowing double bass guitar.

Bee: 00:45:25

It's the fucking coolest thing.

Bee: 00:45:27

Did you also notice that he was strapped into like a Thunderdome harness?

Bee: 00:45:32

Yes.

Bee: 00:45:32

Because that's what I thought.

Bee: 00:45:33

Yeah.

Bee: 00:45:34

Well, that Wow, I

Sam: 00:45:35

did not know.

Sam: 00:45:35

I gotta go back and watch it.

Sam: 00:45:36

I'm sure it was.

Nathan: 00:45:38

Guitar, I think weighs like 250 pounds.

Nathan: 00:45:42

That's why.

Nathan: 00:45:44

That's one of the some of the trivia that I read.

Nathan: 00:45:47

This movie has my attention.

Nathan: 00:45:50

At this point, when that guy shows up, well it did beforehand,

Nathan: 00:45:53

but at this point, yes.

Nathan: 00:45:55

What I love about this entire Rolling Coachella concert is that it's reminiscent

Nathan: 00:46:00

of how, like, the British played the fife and drums while heading into battle

Nathan: 00:46:04

in the American Revolutionary War.

Nathan: 00:46:05

That's what I'm thinking of.

Nathan: 00:46:07

It's the war drums, yeah.

Nathan: 00:46:09

Yeah, it is.

Sam: 00:46:10

It's so eventful.

Sam: 00:46:11

It's just like, you're just like, ahhh!

Bee: 00:46:14

I love that.

Bee: 00:46:14

They're like, Oh shit, the wives are gone.

Bee: 00:46:17

The Imperator's gone rogue.

Bee: 00:46:19

Somebody get the guitar.

Bee: 00:46:21

You know,

Bee: 00:46:23

this is what we

Nathan: 00:46:24

need to do.

Nathan: 00:46:25

It's so important.

Nathan: 00:46:27

And I paused my disc while I tried, I tried, I counted the

Nathan: 00:46:30

speakers and there's like 90 to a hundred of them did some research.

Nathan: 00:46:35

This is important.

Nathan: 00:46:36

And the estimate is that this system was outputting about 120 decibels.

SFX: 00:46:41

Which is the

Nathan: 00:46:41

equivalent of a jet engine.

Nathan: 00:46:43

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:46:43

Good.

Nathan: 00:46:43

Good.

Nathan: 00:46:44

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:46:44

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:46:44

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:46:45

Which is makes sense.

Nathan: 00:46:46

Why?

Nathan: 00:46:47

And there's so much diegetic sound when you are like 25 miles away

Nathan: 00:46:54

from the war party and you, you get.

Nathan: 00:46:57

you know, Furiosa and Mad Max, you know, trying to get out of the mud, you can

Nathan: 00:47:02

see and hear those drums and guitar playing like way off in the distance.

Nathan: 00:47:09

That's because it's outputting that much sound.

Nathan: 00:47:12

And they did the calculations on, on this.

Nathan: 00:47:15

You can hear that score that music coming from that.

Nathan: 00:47:19

And it's underneath that.

Nathan: 00:47:20

That's why it's

Sam: 00:47:21

so scary too, because it's like when you hear them so far

Sam: 00:47:24

away, it's like you hear like, and you're like, Oh shit, oh shit.

Sam: 00:47:29

They're coming.

Sam: 00:47:30

They're going to be here in like 30 minutes.

Sam: 00:47:31

Get the hell out of here.

Sam: 00:47:32

Like it makes it awesome.

Sam: 00:47:33

Yeah.

Bee: 00:47:35

thumping soundtrack to this movie that just gives the right

Bee: 00:47:40

amount of anxiety all the time.

Bee: 00:47:43

And I don't know if you two ended up watching this movie, but the, the bullet

Bee: 00:47:48

farmer cars that we, that we start to see, they're dressed up differently.

Bee: 00:47:54

than the cars from the Citadel, and they really look like the cars from

Bee: 00:47:59

Peter Weir's The Cars That Ate Paris.

Bee: 00:48:02

They are so similarly designed.

Nathan: 00:48:06

The spiky ones?

Bee: 00:48:07

Yeah, well, there was the spiky one in The Cars That Ate

Bee: 00:48:10

Paris, but there was also just a lot of other sort of rundown cars.

Bee: 00:48:14

I really thought it was such a great nod to the exploitation that

Bee: 00:48:18

this, this movie was born out of.

Sam: 00:48:20

I, there's a musical moment that I love and I I'm going to botch

Sam: 00:48:23

explaining this because it's like, I don't quite remember the exact timing,

Sam: 00:48:27

but it's like, it's right near, it's either before or after when the road

Sam: 00:48:30

blows up, but it's when that, the motorcycle gang is up in the rocks.

Sam: 00:48:35

And they're coming down.

Sam: 00:48:36

I don't know, I keep forgetting there's so many different, like tribes and gangs

Sam: 00:48:39

in this movie, but they're, but they're coming down to attack the war rig.

Sam: 00:48:44

But when you first see them, like gearing up, the music switches and it goes like,

Sam: 00:48:51

and it, but it's like a different chapter of like, I love how there's

Sam: 00:48:56

chapters of action in this movie.

Sam: 00:48:58

It's like you have the initial escape and the sandstorm and the

Sam: 00:49:01

music adapts to each like chapter.

Sam: 00:49:05

It's almost like video game ish, but, but in a, in a good way, not a bad way.

Sam: 00:49:09

Cause it's like, and now.

Sam: 00:49:10

Level three, where these guys show up and now level four, where we're in the

Sam: 00:49:14

mud, you know, it's like, it's this does

Bee: 00:49:16

feel a little video game.

Bee: 00:49:17

I actually think I'd rather see a colored but silent and orchestral

Bee: 00:49:23

version of this movie like Metropolis than a black and white version.

Bee: 00:49:28

I have the exact same note.

Bee: 00:49:30

I, I, I don't, you don't need the dialogue this way.

Bee: 00:49:33

I love it.

Bee: 00:49:33

I, I'd love to see just the music with this movie, but I.

Bee: 00:49:39

We got to talk about black and chrome.

Nathan: 00:49:41

Oh my God.

Nathan: 00:49:41

We are on such the same wavelength because this is, I was, you stole my thunder a

Nathan: 00:49:46

little bit here because I was going to, I wanted to mention the black and chrome

Nathan: 00:49:49

edition and I was going to actually say dovetail into exactly your point.

Nathan: 00:49:54

I did buy the, the.

Nathan: 00:49:56

The Mad Max box set, which comes with the first three movies and this movie

Nathan: 00:50:02

in 4k and the black and Chrome edition

SFX: 00:50:05

and

Nathan: 00:50:06

a whole bunch of stuff on it.

Nathan: 00:50:07

But yeah, so Fury Road is gorgeous and black and white,

Nathan: 00:50:14

but you know, what's better.

Nathan: 00:50:16

Color.

Nathan: 00:50:17

Fury Road, in all its vibrant color, as it was intended.

Nathan: 00:50:21

I love the look of black and white in film.

Nathan: 00:50:24

I often think it helps focus me on certain elements of the storytelling,

Nathan: 00:50:30

but this film is so dialed in with the storytelling to begin with.

Nathan: 00:50:36

This version, the black and chrome, doesn't assist me,

Nathan: 00:50:41

helping me engage with it.

Nathan: 00:50:42

Well, the film

Bee: 00:50:42

uses color to further plot and further world building.

Nathan: 00:50:46

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:50:46

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:50:47

Instead, I found myself actually longing for the hyper decadent color

Nathan: 00:50:51

palette of the original version.

Nathan: 00:50:53

I'm really glad I, I took the, the time to finally watch it,

Nathan: 00:50:57

but I probably won't ever again.

Nathan: 00:51:00

But like you said, what I would love is to see a cut of Fury Road solely

Nathan: 00:51:04

with a score set, set with no dialogue.

Nathan: 00:51:07

What, there was one other thing I wanted to say about Black and chrome.

Nathan: 00:51:10

And I lost it now, but

Bee: 00:51:11

I loved the night scenes in this movie where everything's kind of blue.

Bee: 00:51:16

I thought I loved the night scenes.

Bee: 00:51:18

Yeah.

Bee: 00:51:18

And I like that

Sam: 00:51:19

they took the that this movie, like by a long shot has the best because,

Sam: 00:51:25

and I understand, but like, you know, with Mad Max 79 and Road Warrior,

Sam: 00:51:29

the night, the night scenes always look like they show the low budget.

Sam: 00:51:33

They look a little bit cheap.

Sam: 00:51:34

You know what I mean?

Sam: 00:51:35

Like, even when, when in Road Warrior, when Max has the two like

Sam: 00:51:39

oil canisters and he's sneaking out into the desert at night,

SFX: 00:51:42

it's

Sam: 00:51:42

so dark, which is fine, but you almost want those like overhead

Sam: 00:51:46

nightlights to give it that.

Sam: 00:51:47

And this just nails the The look of night and the fact that

Sam: 00:51:51

they take their time easing into the night, like is, is amazing.

Nathan: 00:51:55

Can

Sam: 00:51:56

I

Nathan: 00:51:57

say one other thing about black and Chrome, which I want to tell the

Nathan: 00:52:00

audience out there, if anybody does watch it, I'm not discouraging people

Nathan: 00:52:04

from watching this, but I have a tip.

Nathan: 00:52:07

I watched the first, Our in probably 20 minutes of this movie with just what, you

Nathan: 00:52:15

know, put it popping in my, in my blu ray and player and just watching it as it is.

Nathan: 00:52:20

And as I'm watching it, I realized this looks good, but I

Nathan: 00:52:23

feel like it could look better.

Nathan: 00:52:25

I suggest if you have the ability to do so.

Nathan: 00:52:30

crank up the contrast on your TV as far as you can on the black and chrome edition.

Nathan: 00:52:38

It made it much more hyper experience because once I did that for the last

Nathan: 00:52:45

40 minutes of this movie, The best way of comparing it member in doing

Nathan: 00:52:50

to where you went to that planet where everything was in black and white.

SFX: 00:52:54

Yeah.

Nathan: 00:52:54

It made the movie kind of feel like that.

Nathan: 00:52:56

I'm like, Ooh, this is interesting.

Nathan: 00:52:59

And I enjoyed it a little bit more.

Nathan: 00:53:01

I kind of, it kind of gave it that, that high contrast feel in.

Nathan: 00:53:05

I enjoyed it more.

Nathan: 00:53:07

Nobody really knows how to like set the color on their TVs, you know, so this,

Nathan: 00:53:12

this is a very, this is very inside baseball, but I would just say, play with

Nathan: 00:53:17

the TV, adjust your colors to a version that you settings that you really like.

Nathan: 00:53:22

If you're going to watch black and Chrome, because if it's way, if it's

Nathan: 00:53:25

not contrast enough, I think it just kind of has a very dull feel to it.

Nathan: 00:53:29

That was my experience.

Nathan: 00:53:31

So, yeah.

Sam: 00:53:32

I'm fascinated by, and, and This, this probably is, is included.

Sam: 00:53:36

Well, what's the, the Nathan, the box set that you bought, like for the Mad Max is

Nathan: 00:53:41

high octane box.

Nathan: 00:53:42

It's called the high octane box set came out like five years ago.

Sam: 00:53:45

I've got a, the high, the high octane box set.

Sam: 00:53:47

That's what I've got to get.

Sam: 00:53:48

Cause I, I have not watched any kind of like making of a fury road.

Sam: 00:53:53

But one thing I'm fascinated by is this movie in many ways, boggles the On a

Sam: 00:53:59

typical shooting day in some of these scenes, like, I just can't imagine.

Sam: 00:54:05

I mean, I can't imagine it.

Sam: 00:54:06

I just don't know how it plays out.

Sam: 00:54:07

The schedule of like camera setups and like is one day just

Sam: 00:54:12

all wide shots and vehicles.

Sam: 00:54:14

Then another day is like, we're just doing interior.

Sam: 00:54:16

Like it's so complicated and so well orchestrated that I find it.

Sam: 00:54:21

The coordination of the shoot, just like boggling to me on the scale of this movie.

Bee: 00:54:26

What I've heard is it was a nightmare.

Bee: 00:54:28

Yeah.

Sam: 00:54:29

Yeah.

Sam: 00:54:29

I

Bee: 00:54:30

think everyone who's worked on it and even a little bit's leaking

Bee: 00:54:33

from Furiosa but on Fury Road, I don't think anyone got along.

Bee: 00:54:38

And I think it was really hard for the actors to see the vision.

Bee: 00:54:43

And George Miller came out and admitted that, you know, that's on him.

Bee: 00:54:47

It was, it was hard to communicate and he was sort of over directing them because he

Bee: 00:54:51

just had it so clear in his mind, instead of a script, they were given a storyboard.

Sam: 00:54:58

Well, that, and that kind of makes sense because the scale of the movie is so

Sam: 00:55:00

big and he knows what he wants that maybe they felt shut out of the collaborative,

Sam: 00:55:05

like, actor director process because he's like, no, just stand there, look

Sam: 00:55:08

out the window, okay, move your head to the left, okay, all right, now back

Sam: 00:55:11

to the right, smoke, smoke, turn the fucking smoke on, you know what I mean?

Sam: 00:55:13

Like, it's so specific.

Sam: 00:55:15

I think that's

Bee: 00:55:16

kind of

Sam: 00:55:17

what it

Bee: 00:55:17

was.

Bee: 00:55:18

Yeah, exactly.

Bee: 00:55:18

Yeah.

Sam: 00:55:19

Fascinating.

Bee: 00:55:20

I know.

Bee: 00:55:21

But it, it gave us this incredible film, you know?

Bee: 00:55:24

Yeah,

Sam: 00:55:25

no, it's, it's, it's like, it's amazing.

Sam: 00:55:27

I, it just, I, I, I really got to watch, I would love to see it more document,

Sam: 00:55:31

behind the scenes footage of, of, and, you know, temperatures in Namibia and

Sam: 00:55:36

like, where cast and crew stay and like how far away from a town they are.

Sam: 00:55:40

Like, it sounds really, really rugged out, like rough, you know?

Bee: 00:55:43

It does sound rough.

Bee: 00:55:44

And then you think that despite that, the leads, Really still got a little bit of

Bee: 00:55:51

themselves, I thought into the character, like Charlize Theron, when she gets to her

Bee: 00:55:56

knees and she, you know, she finally gets to what she thought was going to be the

Bee: 00:56:01

green place and the place of many mothers.

Bee: 00:56:03

And she breaks down.

Bee: 00:56:04

I mean, that's,

Bee: 00:56:08

And Tom Hardy's interpretation of Max is different than Mel's,

Bee: 00:56:11

so still there's some personality shining through the actors.

Nathan: 00:56:16

I'm glad you're bringing up the cast because I was about to pivot for a

Nathan: 00:56:18

moment and I wanted to ask you guys about what you thought about the performances.

Nathan: 00:56:22

Tom Hardy as Max.

Nathan: 00:56:25

Do you think he is a better Max than Mel Gibson?

Nathan: 00:56:27

Putting aside the baggage with Mel Gibson for a moment.

Nathan: 00:56:30

If that's possible.

Bee: 00:56:32

Forgetting that he's a raging antisemite and terrible person.

Nathan: 00:56:35

If, but again, if we could look at the performances solely, you know, who,

Nathan: 00:56:40

who do you really prefer as, as Mad Max?

Sam: 00:56:45

You know, for me, it's not a question of, of.

Sam: 00:56:47

Preference.

Sam: 00:56:48

Cause I thought that Tom Hardy was excellent for Fury Road.

Sam: 00:56:52

And I thought that Mel Gibson was excellent in the first three.

Sam: 00:56:57

And to me, I don't have an issue.

Sam: 00:57:00

They're so different that they, they kind of don't cross over in my mind.

Sam: 00:57:05

So it's, it's not that I prefer one or the other.

Sam: 00:57:08

It's like they were perfect for the movies they were in.

Sam: 00:57:11

I know that's not the question.

Sam: 00:57:12

Like, I know I should pick one, but it doesn't, they don't, they It doesn't

Sam: 00:57:17

conf, they don't conflict in my mind.

Sam: 00:57:19

I mean, I, Mel Gibson had three movies to like emote more and, and,

Sam: 00:57:24

and, and, and grow, but I thought.

Sam: 00:57:27

Tom Hardy was like perfect for what he was able to achieve in this movie.

Sam: 00:57:31

This is just a different, different energy, you know, but they, they

Sam: 00:57:35

don't cross over in my mind.

Sam: 00:57:37

That's a good question.

Sam: 00:57:37

A difficult one for me to answer.

Bee: 00:57:40

Yeah.

Bee: 00:57:40

I don't disagree with you, Sam.

Bee: 00:57:42

For me, I have to compare Tom Hardy to the original Mad Max because

Bee: 00:57:47

those are, you know, You know, it's, it's Tom Hardy's first crack at the

Bee: 00:57:51

character and it was Mel's first crack.

Bee: 00:57:54

And in many ways, both of those films are much less about max, at

Bee: 00:57:59

least the first one for a while.

Bee: 00:58:01

We, it doesn't really become Max's movie until a little bit further in.

Bee: 00:58:05

Right.

Bee: 00:58:05

But it's just, this just isn't a Max centric installation of the franchise.

Bee: 00:58:13

Will ever be.

Bee: 00:58:16

I don't know, but if,

Sam: 00:58:18

but if if, you know, depending on how successful Furiosa is, and I really

Sam: 00:58:22

hope it is regardless of, of what I think of it is because I love these movies.

Sam: 00:58:26

I, Miller did have another Mad Max story.

Sam: 00:58:31

Mad Max, the Wasteland.

Sam: 00:58:32

I don't know what that's about, but it sounds like it might be more Mad

Sam: 00:58:36

Max centric, knowing little about it.

Sam: 00:58:38

But I hope he gets to it because like, man, these movies, I

Sam: 00:58:41

could, they, I love them.

Bee: 00:58:42

I thought Hardy was great.

Bee: 00:58:43

I think Mel does a better job at that.

Bee: 00:58:46

You really see his internal compass, his moral compass.

Bee: 00:58:50

I think he conveys that.

Bee: 00:58:53

More here, Max is a little bit more of a victim of circumstance,

Bee: 00:58:57

whereas Max is actively making decisions when Mel is in charge.

Nathan: 00:59:01

I agree with you be I, I think I hadn't really put, put a lot of thought

Nathan: 00:59:06

into this question until this past week.

Nathan: 00:59:09

What my take really is on Tom Hardy and.

Nathan: 00:59:12

Honestly, I'm not really sure where I stand on Tom Hardy as an actor in general.

Nathan: 00:59:18

I look at his filmography and I'm like, do I really love him in anything?

Nathan: 00:59:26

And well, obviously you haven't

Sam: 00:59:27

seen Star Trek Nemesis for her.

Sam: 00:59:29

Just kidding.

Sam: 00:59:30

Cause that was not so good, but yeah,

Nathan: 00:59:31

but, but You know, he, he, I feel like his goal in his career is to

Nathan: 00:59:37

say as little as possible in his movies.

Nathan: 00:59:41

And if he does open his mouth, he just comes off as it's like,

Nathan: 00:59:47

This is, this is pre Bane, right?

Nathan: 00:59:49

No, this is after Bane because Batman movie was 2012.

Sam: 00:59:54

That's right.

Sam: 00:59:54

He was Bane.

Sam: 00:59:55

I totally, boy, that role is not like, it's okay.

Sam: 00:59:58

But he's just like, Oh, Mr.

Sam: 00:59:59

Wayne,

Nathan: 01:00:01

you look at that.

Nathan: 01:00:01

You look at the venom movies.

Nathan: 01:00:03

I haven't seen any of those.

Nathan: 01:00:04

It's just, he.

Nathan: 01:00:06

I, I, I, I don't even know where to begin, but my point

Nathan: 01:00:10

is, I think I agree with you B.

Nathan: 01:00:12

I think Mel Gibson person aside, I think he, he, he does emote a lot better in his

Nathan: 01:00:19

movies, especially the third one as much as I'm not a fan of Thunderdome, I think

Nathan: 01:00:24

he is giving the most to work with there.

Nathan: 01:00:26

It's definitely he speaks the most of any of the Mad Max movies in any movie.

Nathan: 01:00:30

What's what I find to be interesting is that this movie starts off what I think

Nathan: 01:00:34

is a very interesting inner monologue, which he, I quote, I am the one who

Nathan: 01:00:41

runs from both the living and the dead.

Nathan: 01:00:43

A man reduced to a single instinct survive.

Nathan: 01:00:47

He is an animal.

Nathan: 01:00:48

He, and he says right there, but he, it's kind of a, a very articulate.

Nathan: 01:00:52

A little bit of monologue.

Nathan: 01:00:53

It's the most, he probably says it's the longest sentence that Max says

Nathan: 01:00:57

in the whole movie is this monologue.

Nathan: 01:00:59

We never get that version of Max that says this monologue

Nathan: 01:01:04

anywhere else in this movie.

Nathan: 01:01:06

Well, the only

Bee: 01:01:07

place I would say the only place is when the wife whose name

Bee: 01:01:12

I'm forgetting when she, when she dies and he has to convince the.

Bee: 01:01:16

The war rig to carry on.

Bee: 01:01:18

Oh, he's like, went

Sam: 01:01:20

under the

Bee: 01:01:21

wheels.

Bee: 01:01:22

I think that's great, but it's, it's

Bee: 01:01:26

fleeting.

Sam: 01:01:29

I see both your points.

Sam: 01:01:30

Cause Nathan, I feel like where Mel Gibson does better than Tom Hardy is when he

Sam: 01:01:36

gets these little moments to emote, like, like in road warrior at the very end.

Sam: 01:01:42

When he finds out that he's been driving a truck full of sand and there's no

Sam: 01:01:46

oil and like, and the gyro captain gasoline, the gyro captain shows up and

Sam: 01:01:51

Gibson gives this like little smile, like, Oh man, those clever bastards.

Sam: 01:01:55

I kind of respect that he can convey a lot of emotion in his face, which

Sam: 01:02:00

Tom Hardy doesn't do as much, but the movie doesn't really, it'd be,

Sam: 01:02:04

it'd be easier to judge Tom Hardy.

Sam: 01:02:06

If he had another Mad Max movie to like, it's, he's so like, it's

Sam: 01:02:11

Fury Road is not Mad Max centric.

Sam: 01:02:13

So he has little moments to emote, but I feel like Gibson got a lot

Sam: 01:02:18

more of a chance to like, show his chops in, in Road Warrior.

Sam: 01:02:23

Thunderdome, especially, you know,

Nathan: 01:02:24

so alternate reality also up for this role at one time was Jeremy Renner.

Nathan: 01:02:29

Do you think he would have been

Bee: 01:02:32

too shiny movie story?

Bee: 01:02:34

You know, what's

Sam: 01:02:34

funny.

Sam: 01:02:35

I actually, I like Jeremy Renner.

Sam: 01:02:37

Like I like him, but, and I never think of Jeremy Renner as lightweight, but I feel

Sam: 01:02:42

like he's too lightweight for Mad Max.

Sam: 01:02:44

Like I, it's a weird thing to say.

Sam: 01:02:46

I can't see him feral.

Bee: 01:02:47

I can't see a feral Jeremy runner running around, you know?

Bee: 01:02:51

Yeah.

Bee: 01:02:51

I think

Sam: 01:02:51

he'd be good, but he but it, it's never dirty.

Sam: 01:02:53

It's, it's, he's not that, that he's a little too clean.

Sam: 01:02:56

The edge is not quite there.

Bee: 01:02:58

Yeah.

Bee: 01:02:58

See, and that's what Tom Hardy, his interpretation, I almost think of these

Bee: 01:03:02

characters like . This is a silly.

Bee: 01:03:05

Really silly comparison, but like, you know how we have

Bee: 01:03:07

Sondheim, we consider those actors interpreters of Sondheim's work.

Bee: 01:03:11

That's kind of how I feel about these George Miller actors,

Bee: 01:03:13

because he keeps coming back to the same actors for different roles.

Bee: 01:03:17

And I just think This interpretation of Max is just a little more

Nathan: 01:03:21

feral.

Nathan: 01:03:24

Totally.

Nathan: 01:03:24

This is a version of Max that is very much more unhinged than any

Nathan: 01:03:28

version of Max we've seen before.

Nathan: 01:03:29

He's

Nathan: 01:03:30

a blood bag!

Nathan: 01:03:31

Things have gotten worse, Nathan.

Nathan: 01:03:32

Did you watch the movie?

Nathan: 01:03:34

He's been out in the desert a long time.

Nathan: 01:03:36

Yeah, shit's Fuck, the crows are speaking Russian.

Nathan: 01:03:39

Charlize Theron has an American accent for no reason.

Nathan: 01:03:42

Things got weird.

Sam: 01:03:44

I do love that insult.

Sam: 01:03:45

One of the wives is like, you're nothing but a lead slinger and you're like, Oh,

Bee: 01:03:53

It's really, but yeah, no, I think I think Mel's better

Bee: 01:03:56

at the moral compass of Max.

Bee: 01:03:58

And it's, it's interesting what that means for the installations going forward.

Bee: 01:04:02

I don't know.

Nathan: 01:04:02

He's a crazy smeg who eats longer.

Nathan: 01:04:06

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:04:11

I did write that down.

Nathan: 01:04:11

I just remember seeing

Sam: 01:04:13

that in the theater the first time and not understanding the words, but I

Sam: 01:04:16

knew enough in the context of that world.

Sam: 01:04:17

I was like, Oh, what an insult.

Nathan: 01:04:19

Oh shit.

Bee: 01:04:22

We have to, we have to talk about.

Bee: 01:04:27

The turning point of this film where they get to the place of many mothers.

SFX: 01:04:31

Yeah.

Bee: 01:04:32

And that is just so, I mean, we talk about this movie just being relentless.

Bee: 01:04:37

It, it comes to a pretty screeching halt here.

Bee: 01:04:39

I don't, I don't think it hurts it.

Bee: 01:04:42

You don't necessarily.

Bee: 01:04:44

You know, you just feel it.

Bee: 01:04:45

You feel it in the pace of it.

Bee: 01:04:47

It, you need a break, but it's, it's not really a break because the

Bee: 01:04:52

emotional stuff just gets to you.

Bee: 01:04:54

You know, you've, you've spent so much time building up hope and

Bee: 01:04:57

tension with these characters.

Bee: 01:04:58

You've raced with them across the desert, and then there's no oasis awaiting them.

Bee: 01:05:04

I had a friend who had a

Sam: 01:05:06

really interesting psychological reaction to that.

Sam: 01:05:08

She said, I love the movie, but I hate that the fact that they turn around and

Sam: 01:05:12

they have to go back to the Citadel.

Sam: 01:05:14

And to me, it was fascinating that she said that because I

Sam: 01:05:17

was like, ah, but that says.

Sam: 01:05:18

more about you as a person because you want the characters to get

Sam: 01:05:21

away and go and go and go and go until they come to an ocean.

Sam: 01:05:25

But I, I liked that.

Sam: 01:05:26

I actually liked that moment where they're devastated and then they're there

Sam: 01:05:30

because the movie breeze for a second.

Sam: 01:05:31

But it's interesting to me that they turn around and have to go back.

Sam: 01:05:36

It's the hard choice.

Sam: 01:05:38

And it's difficult.

Sam: 01:05:38

And I, Related to my friend.

Sam: 01:05:40

Cause I'm one of the people that when I, my first reaction was

Sam: 01:05:43

like, Oh, keep going, keep driving.

Sam: 01:05:45

Like I just go, go, go, go, go, go, get away.

Sam: 01:05:47

Like, I don't want to go back to

Bee: 01:05:49

the unknown.

Sam: 01:05:50

Yeah.

Sam: 01:05:51

I was worried that it would get less inventive when they went back into the

Sam: 01:05:55

story that they'd already driven out of, but then it was so awesome that

Sam: 01:05:58

I was like, okay, I'm fine with this.

Bee: 01:06:00

But that's the moral compass of the film that they, they

Bee: 01:06:03

return to say, you know, and that's a very Mad Max plot device.

SFX: 01:06:07

Yeah.

Bee: 01:06:07

I, it occurred to me on this watch, they, they keep

Bee: 01:06:11

referring to the salt flats.

Bee: 01:06:13

I think that was ocean.

Bee: 01:06:16

I think they're surrounded by ocean that dried up

Nathan: 01:06:19

because they talk about 160 days.

Nathan: 01:06:21

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:06:21

That it's riding, riding motorcycles, all salt.

Nathan: 01:06:23

Think about that.

Nathan: 01:06:24

That is great point.

Nathan: 01:06:26

They're talking like 160 day ride.

Nathan: 01:06:29

If you're riding motorcycles, you're riding for 160 days, you're

Nathan: 01:06:32

gonna hit something, and you're right, it has to be the ocean.

Nathan: 01:06:36

I

Bee: 01:06:36

think it's the ocean.

Nathan: 01:06:37

I think it's all dried up.

Sam: 01:06:38

One of the places, the place of many mothers, or, I think we actually see

Sam: 01:06:42

that green and tree like in Furiosa, like we're going back to one of those places.

Nathan: 01:06:47

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:06:49

Oh my god, this is all hitting me, because the water's such a good There's no

Bee: 01:06:51

water!

Bee: 01:06:52

It's such a precious commodity.

Bee: 01:06:54

It's just gasoline.

Bee: 01:06:54

So I, I'm pretty sure that surrounding them is, is dead ocean, dried up ocean.

Sam: 01:07:00

You know, that actually makes sense because in the, in the video game, Mad

Sam: 01:07:04

Max on PS4, they actually talk about how like the ocean's gone and, and there's

Sam: 01:07:09

this whole tribe was like, We're going to wait here for the waters to return.

Sam: 01:07:13

And so it's like the ocean dried up, you know, fascinating.

Bee: 01:07:18

So interesting.

Sam: 01:07:20

I'm

Nathan: 01:07:22

giving you all the credit.

Nathan: 01:07:23

It's actually my

Bee: 01:07:24

boyfriend.

Nathan: 01:07:25

So I can't even take it.

Nathan: 01:07:27

I know I got to give it to on the podcast and drop you.

Nathan: 01:07:33

He did listen.

Nathan: 01:07:34

He

Bee: 01:07:34

was like, you guys actually sound like you know what we're talking about.

Bee: 01:07:36

I'm like, could you sound less surprised?

Bee: 01:07:38

Thank you.

Nathan: 01:07:39

Any other thoughts on this?

Nathan: 01:07:39

Okay.

Nathan: 01:07:39

So They head back and this is I think where we get like the ultimate car

Nathan: 01:07:45

chase where it really amps up We get we get those like pole vaulters

Sam: 01:07:50

Yeah, I love the

Nathan: 01:07:51

pole cats The fact that it doesn't

Sam: 01:07:53

lose any steam is amazing because there's so many action movies out

Sam: 01:07:57

there where you have this great set piece In the middle then the third act

Sam: 01:08:00

action sequence is exhausting and dull.

Sam: 01:08:02

That is not the case with this film I will say I wish that that Morton Joe's

Sam: 01:08:07

death was a little bit more like graphic.

Sam: 01:08:09

You know what I mean, but it's still pretty good.

Sam: 01:08:11

Like

Bee: 01:08:12

things just keep moving and that's so early in the film.

Bee: 01:08:15

I mean, it feels really just because everything moves so fast that

Bee: 01:08:19

they just they cruise on by it.

Bee: 01:08:21

I

Nathan: 01:08:21

talked about Nux's redemption.

Nathan: 01:08:23

And we haven't really mentioned nothing about Nux in this movie.

Nathan: 01:08:27

Nicholas Holt plays the heart of this movie.

Nathan: 01:08:30

Really?

Nathan: 01:08:31

Yes.

Nathan: 01:08:31

Because he you know, the war boys.

Nathan: 01:08:34

I guess they, they, they Morton Jones mentions that these

Nathan: 01:08:37

are like half life people.

Nathan: 01:08:38

I guess they've all been affected by some kind of radiation or something.

Nathan: 01:08:43

They're cancerous warts on them.

Nathan: 01:08:46

Larry and Barry.

Nathan: 01:08:47

Yeah, Larry and Barry.

Nathan: 01:08:48

The

Sam: 01:08:48

medical stuff in this movie like disgusts me in a good way.

Sam: 01:08:51

It's just sickening.

Sam: 01:08:52

Yeah.

Bee: 01:08:53

All the talcum powder and all

Sam: 01:08:55

the like tubes and blood bags.

Sam: 01:08:57

I'm just like, Oh

Bee: 01:08:58

God, the hook he takes out of his neck.

Nathan: 01:09:02

It's so gross.

Nathan: 01:09:04

And but Nux, you know, he, he, you know, he's, he's on part of the good

Nathan: 01:09:08

guys on the you know, in the second half of this, and I just, I really

Nathan: 01:09:12

just love his redemption in this.

Nathan: 01:09:13

It becomes really his redemption story at the end and his final, you

Nathan: 01:09:18

know, witness me where he takes out You know what I call one of the mini

Nathan: 01:09:21

bosses, but I wrote his name down here.

Nathan: 01:09:23

I think it's slit is his name.

Nathan: 01:09:25

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:09:27

Oh, by the way, great name for one of a Morton Joe's son.

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Oh, yes.

Nathan: 01:09:32

Rictus erectus.

Nathan: 01:09:33

I had a brother.

Nathan: 01:09:35

I had a baby brother.

Nathan: 01:09:38

He was perfect.

Nathan: 01:09:40

I love that guy.

Nathan: 01:09:41

He's the, I the actor is, but I just love the way he.

Nathan: 01:09:44

He's a behemoth.

Nathan: 01:09:46

He was perfect for that role.

Nathan: 01:09:48

But you know, they're going through that, that chasm again, and he

Nathan: 01:09:52

sacrifices himself to, to save the Maxon and Furiosa in the, in the bride.

Nathan: 01:09:59

So great moment where.

Nathan: 01:10:02

You know,

SFX: 01:10:03

last

Nathan: 01:10:03

time he says, witness me and it takes, takes them.

Nathan: 01:10:06

I see what I'm a little confused about is.

Nathan: 01:10:09

The, the, the pass he takes out and there's a pile up, but is this

Nathan: 01:10:13

really the end of the war party?

Nathan: 01:10:16

I mean, I, I don't, I feel like, yeah, Joe's dead and maybe just because

Nathan: 01:10:19

Joe is dead, that's really the end.

Nathan: 01:10:21

Cause they're the leaders is gone, but like, it won't take them

Nathan: 01:10:24

long to get through there still.

Sam: 01:10:27

Yeah.

Sam: 01:10:28

I mean, they, and they eventually get through and, but like, I'm

Sam: 01:10:31

not, yeah, that, I mean, it's more like a roadblock, I think.

Sam: 01:10:35

Like a time delay.

Bee: 01:10:37

It's interesting how all of these movies use some quasi

Bee: 01:10:42

religious Imagery and knocks off.

Bee: 01:10:47

They obviously have some weird religious stuff with the Morton Joe

Bee: 01:10:50

his his witness me in the road to Valhalla and shiny and chrome and

Bee: 01:10:56

when he loses faith as a war boy, he immediately substitutes this

Bee: 01:11:03

other mythic figure in Mad Max.

Bee: 01:11:07

Align with Mad Max in the war rig and getting the mothers

Bee: 01:11:11

to safety here, but it is.

Bee: 01:11:14

He's just a tragic figure

Nathan: 01:11:19

at the end of this movie.

Nathan: 01:11:21

Get your opinion on this.

Nathan: 01:11:23

Think about this for a moment where this movie ends.

Nathan: 01:11:25

Furiosa is back.

Nathan: 01:11:28

Is she the queen of the Citadel now?

Nathan: 01:11:31

This place still has tons of problem.

Nathan: 01:11:35

The infrastructure is built on some slave labor, like I mean, I feel like

Sam: 01:11:42

she'll, if she is the queen, which it kind of seemed like she

Sam: 01:11:45

was, she'll release the water

Bee: 01:11:47

and

Sam: 01:11:48

like turn it into a garden.

Sam: 01:11:48

And the

Bee: 01:11:49

women.

Bee: 01:11:50

We haven't talked about how the women supplying mother's milk

Bee: 01:11:53

are still, she left them behind.

Bee: 01:11:55

They're still there.

Sam: 01:11:56

They're still, exactly.

Bee: 01:11:57

My, my only, it's not even really fully.

Bee: 01:12:02

Well, it kind of is great, but this movie is, I think George Miller tends

Bee: 01:12:07

to lean on Appearances and disability as, as visual language for evil and

Bee: 01:12:13

beauty as visual language for good.

Bee: 01:12:16

A lot in these movies, this movie falls victim to it as well.

Bee: 01:12:22

However, there are plot devices in it.

Bee: 01:12:24

Like the war rig can only hold so many people.

Bee: 01:12:27

Underneath and

SFX: 01:12:28

yeah,

Bee: 01:12:28

you know, the wives are clearly an imminent danger.

Bee: 01:12:30

One of them is pregnant.

Bee: 01:12:32

So that and then you are you also get these women.

Bee: 01:12:37

The Vuvalini who are who are beautiful, but not young.

Nathan: 01:12:42

Yeah,

Bee: 01:12:45

so one

Sam: 01:12:45

guy looking through the telescope at the beginning when he notices

Sam: 01:12:48

notices the warring deviating.

Sam: 01:12:50

That guy actually had a real.

Sam: 01:12:52

Condition like that was an actual person like he did not it was not like a setup

Sam: 01:12:57

like makeup thing like yeah Yeah, actual I can't remember what it was but like he

Sam: 01:13:01

was actually cast With his actual like that guy is what that guy looks like.

Sam: 01:13:07

Basically.

Sam: 01:13:08

Yeah, I think I've got that right.

Sam: 01:13:10

But yeah

Nathan: 01:13:12

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Alright, it is time for movie pairings.

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Hello, welcome to Masterpiece Video.

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How may I help you this afternoon, sir?

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I'm looking for a copy of Eight and a Half.

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Is that a new release, sir?

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No, it's the classic Italian film.

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Sir, just check that on the computer for you, sir.

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Hello, how are you young ladies this afternoon?

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May I help you find a particular Masterpiece movie?

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No.

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Yes, here it is.

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Nine and a half weeks with Mickey Rourke.

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That would be in the erotic drama section.

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No, not nine and a half, eight and a half.

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The Fellini film.

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How about this one?

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Get it, I'm sure it sucks.

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All these movies suck.

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All right, I'm, think I'm first.

Bee: 01:14:38

I'm not gonna, I changed my mind in the middle of the

Bee: 01:14:40

episode, so listeners, oh God.

Bee: 01:14:43

I know.

Bee: 01:14:44

I was gonna rec, I was gonna suggest a movie to you.

Bee: 01:14:48

That is fine.

Bee: 01:14:50

I was gonna suggest Mortal Engines, which is.

Bee: 01:14:54

Big and expensive looking.

Bee: 01:14:56

I kind of like

Sam: 01:14:56

that movie.

Sam: 01:14:57

Yeah.

Bee: 01:14:57

Yeah, it's fun.

Bee: 01:14:59

It's

Sam: 01:14:59

not great But I saw it in a hotel room and I was like, wait a minute.

Sam: 01:15:02

I'm enjoying myself watching this

Bee: 01:15:05

Exactly if that movie had come out not in the age of streaming

Bee: 01:15:08

I think we all would have been very happy to have it on reruns.

Bee: 01:15:11

But instead I want to focus on let's just get everybody back to the theater Let's

Bee: 01:15:18

just get everybody back to the theater.

Bee: 01:15:20

I think you should go see Dune Dune two if you haven't already.

Bee: 01:15:23

If you somehow haven't seen it and you need more desert in your life and

Bee: 01:15:27

you need more weird chases and you need more excellent color grading and

Bee: 01:15:30

big sounds and sand looking things.

Bee: 01:15:32

More sand.

Bee: 01:15:33

More sand.

Bee: 01:15:34

Go see Dtu.

Bee: 01:15:36

Go see it again.

Bee: 01:15:37

If you've already seen it, it was.

Bee: 01:15:38

Go back to the theater, get in the habit of it, do it again.

Bee: 01:15:43

Well,

Nathan: 01:15:44

you know what I say about that?

Bee: 01:15:46

What?

Nathan: 01:15:47

Oh, what

Trailer: 01:15:48

a day!

Trailer: 01:15:48

What

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a lovely night!

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Alright,

Nathan: 01:15:57

I accept that.

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Thanks.

Sam: 01:16:01

Sam.

Sam: 01:16:02

What is your

Bee: 01:16:02

secret recommendation?

Sam: 01:16:04

I'm gonna pose you guys a question.

Sam: 01:16:06

Someone tell us!

Sam: 01:16:07

I can't decide between two of them.

Sam: 01:16:09

One is serious and intense.

Sam: 01:16:11

The other one is chase and action, but it's funny.

Sam: 01:16:15

And do you guys have a winning chase and action and funny?

Sam: 01:16:18

Okay.

Sam: 01:16:19

That's what I was going to, I was heading in that direction.

Sam: 01:16:20

So I represent you've watched fury road.

Sam: 01:16:24

You've had a really intense time.

Sam: 01:16:25

It's incredible.

Sam: 01:16:26

You're exhausted by how amazing it is, but you still want some fun on the road.

Sam: 01:16:31

Maybe you want a movie.

Sam: 01:16:32

That's a 90 minute car chase with.

Sam: 01:16:34

Alas, no, but, but that is a good one.

Sam: 01:16:36

If you want a car chase and you want some fun and you want a classic late 70s vibe,

Sam: 01:16:42

look no further than Smokey and the Bandit

Sam: 01:16:49

1977.

Nathan: 01:16:51

There are trucks.

Nathan: 01:16:52

There are cars.

Nathan: 01:16:54

I'm glad he didn't go cannonball run.

Nathan: 01:16:56

That's all I have to say.

Nathan: 01:16:56

Cannonball run is awful, awful film.

Bee: 01:16:59

Sam, I came this close to recommending Butch Cassidy and the

Bee: 01:17:03

Sundance Kid because Furious and Mad Max.

Bee: 01:17:06

Yeah, that's

Sam: 01:17:06

actually pretty good.

Sam: 01:17:07

Yeah.

Sam: 01:17:08

You know, I just read Smoky and the Bandit is, I was not on the Smoky and the Bandit

Sam: 01:17:14

bandwagon until 20 Until 2016, I always thought the title sounded too stupid.

Sam: 01:17:21

I didn't know what it meant.

Sam: 01:17:22

Smokey is like the Southern word for like cops.

Sam: 01:17:25

So it's basically like cops and robbers, cops and robbers.

Sam: 01:17:28

But when I was a kid, I always thought Smokey and the bandits sounded like

Sam: 01:17:32

a dumb Disney movie where it was like, Virgo, the seagull and flop.

Sam: 01:17:35

Oh, the raccoon.

Sam: 01:17:36

And I was like, I don't want to watch this crap.

Sam: 01:17:38

Then I saw it in 2016 for the first time and it's as entertaining As

Sam: 01:17:44

1977 star wars in a different way.

Sam: 01:17:48

Like it is a sublimely ridiculous I would put it in my top 20

Sam: 01:17:52

films of just having fun.

Sam: 01:17:56

It is stupid.

Sam: 01:17:57

It's great I absolutely love it.

Sam: 01:17:59

Jackie Gleason is like the ultimate, like dumb ass villain.

Sam: 01:18:03

And like it 1977 box office number one was a star Wars.

Sam: 01:18:09

Number two was smoky and the bandit and three was in close encounters.

Sam: 01:18:12

So this movie beat Steven Spielberg's incredible alien emotional film,

Sam: 01:18:17

which I think is a masterpiece.

Sam: 01:18:18

But for this, you've watched fury road.

Sam: 01:18:20

You've had an intense time.

Sam: 01:18:22

Come down with Smokey and the Bandit and just laugh and just

Sam: 01:18:25

release your tension and enjoy this ridiculous romp of, of silliness.

Sam: 01:18:30

Why not?

Bee: 01:18:31

I like that you're like, oh, flop the bird and rock on the raccoon,

Bee: 01:18:35

better watch Nux and Rictus Erectus.

Sam: 01:18:41

I just thought Smokey and the Bandit, it sounded like a goofy kids movie.

Sam: 01:18:44

And then I first saw it when I was like, 35.

Sam: 01:18:47

And I was like, wait a minute.

Sam: 01:18:48

How did I miss this?

Sam: 01:18:49

This is like, this is excellent.

Nathan: 01:18:51

See, I knew what smoky meant because I grew up with my dad.

Nathan: 01:18:56

He had a CB in his, in his awesome.

Nathan: 01:19:00

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:19:00

And I learned CB talk radio talk and like, You know, what's your 20 and, you know,

Nathan: 01:19:06

you know, any, I, I don't remember, but so I, I got, and he will let me talk on

Nathan: 01:19:12

the, on the CV every once in a while too.

Nathan: 01:19:14

So I hear that we got to find out where all the, the police were staked out and,

Nathan: 01:19:20

you know, what's over your shoulder, you know, and, you know, All the, all

Nathan: 01:19:23

the cool stuff, you know, all that

Sam: 01:19:25

lingo.

Sam: 01:19:25

That's so awesome.

Sam: 01:19:26

I will, I will say briefly that, that Smokey and the Bandit two is very

Sam: 01:19:30

mediocre and has an animal fetish.

Sam: 01:19:32

It's obsessed with an elephant, which is not fine.

Sam: 01:19:34

And Smokey and the Bandit part three, one of the worst movies

Sam: 01:19:37

I've ever seen in my life.

Sam: 01:19:39

That would be fascinating to discuss with them.

Sam: 01:19:41

I would teach that in a film class of like, it is the most awful part

Sam: 01:19:45

three I've ever seen in my life.

Bee: 01:19:46

Razzy's thing.

Sam: 01:19:48

Yeah, it just was, it is so awful and it's so depressing and like eastbound

Sam: 01:19:55

and down the song by Jerry Reed and the first one is like, I love it.

Sam: 01:19:58

The ticket to the wind, the ending of the third one is just, it's

Sam: 01:20:03

this, this, the sound of the song.

Sam: 01:20:05

It's so depressing.

Sam: 01:20:06

It's like the, the series grew up in like, it's like people from high school

Sam: 01:20:10

split up and they're all not doing well.

Sam: 01:20:12

And everyone's older and like life.

Sam: 01:20:14

It's what Smokey and the Bandit 3 is a fascinatingly horrific, terrible movie.

Sam: 01:20:19

Came out in the summer of 83 and bombed at the box office.

Sam: 01:20:23

Yeah.

Sam: 01:20:24

Just failed.

Sam: 01:20:25

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:20:26

If you want to catch a Smokey and the Bandit, I see that

Nathan: 01:20:28

it's streaming on Netflix right now.

Nathan: 01:20:31

So that's great.

Nathan: 01:20:32

And that's what I meant to

Sam: 01:20:33

mention that.

Sam: 01:20:33

Sorry.

Nathan: 01:20:34

And Dune 2 is on video on demand.

Nathan: 01:20:36

Right.

Nathan: 01:20:38

It's not streaming right now.

Nathan: 01:20:40

My pick for a pairing.

Nathan: 01:20:41

I'm going with Annihilation from Alice Starland.

Nathan: 01:20:46

It's a good movie.

Nathan: 01:20:47

And I'm trying to, so I'm trying to figure out what's the best tie in to.

Nathan: 01:20:55

Fury Road, anyways, I, you know, I think Alex Garland, I think is one of the

Nathan: 01:20:58

best directors working today, despite a bit of a disappointment with Civil

Nathan: 01:21:03

War, but I still did enjoy that film.

Nathan: 01:21:06

All right.

Nathan: 01:21:07

This stars a great cast, Natalie Portman, Jennifer Jason Lee,

Nathan: 01:21:11

Tessa Thompson, Oscar Isaac.

Nathan: 01:21:14

It also takes place in an alternative future timeline where this mysterious

Nathan: 01:21:20

shimmering electromagnetic field has suddenly appeared on earth's surface.

Nathan: 01:21:25

And it is continuously expanding and developing the earth in this

Nathan: 01:21:30

mutating everything that it touches.

Nathan: 01:21:32

Natalie Portman leads an all female expedition into the

Nathan: 01:21:35

shimmer and things get weird.

Nathan: 01:21:40

This is my favorite Alex Garland film.

Nathan: 01:21:42

Yes.

Nathan: 01:21:43

Jennifer Jason

Bee: 01:21:44

Leigh doing good things in this movie.

Nathan: 01:21:46

It's my number one movie of 2018.

Nathan: 01:21:49

I think it's a great pairing of Fury Road.

Nathan: 01:21:51

Both have female leads are strong willed and determined women, and also

Nathan: 01:21:56

not solely defined by their physical prowess, but also their intelligence

Nathan: 01:22:01

and resourcefulness, and of course, both navigate some very hostile environments.

Nathan: 01:22:07

So maybe that's where my comparison lies.

Nathan: 01:22:10

I

Bee: 01:22:10

mean, 2018 was a great year for movies.

Bee: 01:22:12

So I'm still kind of stuck on that, but.

Nathan: 01:22:14

And I guess one other thing I mentioned about Annihilation.

Nathan: 01:22:18

It's one of the most gorgeous films in the last five years or so.

Nathan: 01:22:22

I think there's, you know, there's obviously a lot of And some of it is,

Nathan: 01:22:27

I think a little questionable, but I love the spectacle of this movie

Nathan: 01:22:31

in the color palette watching this simply just puts me in a trance.

Nathan: 01:22:36

It's a great choice.

Nathan: 01:22:37

I thought the

Sam: 01:22:37

shimmer was terrifying.

Sam: 01:22:39

Like the inside of that world, like I was genuinely.

Sam: 01:22:42

Scared in a good way.

Sam: 01:22:44

Cause that place I'd never seen anything liked it.

Sam: 01:22:46

Like I was more directors

Bee: 01:22:47

should realize color can be scary.

Bee: 01:22:49

Yes.

Bee: 01:22:49

Bring back Jalo.

Bee: 01:22:51

Let's do it.

Nathan: 01:22:54

And this isn't a spoiler, but I always give extra points to movies that

Nathan: 01:22:58

leave us with more questions than answers.

Nathan: 01:23:01

And there's no doubt.

Nathan: 01:23:02

Annihilation is a conundrum of a film that will leave you with questions.

Nathan: 01:23:06

So I enjoy this.

Sam: 01:23:08

I'll add to that.

Sam: 01:23:09

It's a fun conundrum because it leaves you with questions, but you're

Sam: 01:23:12

like, Fascinated by the questions.

Sam: 01:23:14

You're not like, Oh, I'm annoyed.

Sam: 01:23:15

Explain it to me.

Sam: 01:23:16

It's like, it's, it's unexplained in a good way.

Sam: 01:23:18

Yeah.

Sam: 01:23:19

But it does

Nathan: 01:23:19

annoy a lot of people.

Nathan: 01:23:20

I, and I've had conversations about this and a lot of people like this movie,

Nathan: 01:23:25

but a lot of people are really kind of like off put by this movie as well.

Nathan: 01:23:29

So that's why I think it's something worth checking out because it

Nathan: 01:23:32

does help a lot of debates.

Nathan: 01:23:34

So

Sam: 01:23:35

you make me want to watch it again.

Sam: 01:23:36

Like I love that movie.

Sam: 01:23:37

Yeah.

Sam: 01:23:38

So

Bee: 01:23:38

2018 was also.

Bee: 01:23:41

The remake of Suspiria, and that would be kind of fun to throw in there too.

Nathan: 01:23:45

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:23:46

Yes.

Bee: 01:23:48

Mm hmm.

Nathan: 01:23:48

I would,

Bee: 01:23:49

another, like, strong female lead cast.

Bee: 01:23:51

Super colorful.

Bee: 01:23:52

Little dark.

Bee: 01:23:54

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:23:54

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:23:56

It's a great remake.

Nathan: 01:23:56

I was checking, it's on Paramount Plus right now, or

Nathan: 01:24:00

you could rent it on VOD, so.

Nathan: 01:24:02

Those are our picks.

Nathan: 01:24:04

Let us know if you watch any of these, or if you, think

Nathan: 01:24:07

that these are good pairings.

Nathan: 01:24:08

We'd love to let, we'd love to know.

Nathan: 01:24:10

Okay.

Nathan: 01:24:11

Let's come back to our thoughts on Fury Road.

Nathan: 01:24:16

And this is where we're going to make our decisions.

Nathan: 01:24:19

Whether this movie is saved or purged into the fiery apocalypse.

Nathan: 01:24:25

I don't know how much drama there is with this one.

Nathan: 01:24:28

I think we're all, I

Sam: 01:24:30

think we're all in agreement.

Sam: 01:24:31

It's time to get rid of this piece of shit.

Bee: 01:24:34

Out the window, let it burn.

Bee: 01:24:37

No, it's a hard yes for me.

Sam: 01:24:39

Yeah, that's yeah.

Sam: 01:24:41

It's a, yeah, I have no, I can't even like, I can't even joke.

Sam: 01:24:44

It's like, of course, like.

Sam: 01:24:45

In what world would I not want to put this in the vault?

Sam: 01:24:48

Like I wouldn't be Sam Cole if I said I didn't want it in the vault.

Sam: 01:24:51

You know what I mean?

Sam: 01:24:51

Like I'd be like some automaton or something.

Bee: 01:24:56

That's the real Blade Runner test to see if they're

Nathan: 01:24:58

replicating it.

Nathan: 01:24:58

Both of you say yes.

Nathan: 01:25:00

I will say yes.

Nathan: 01:25:01

This, this is a no brainer.

Nathan: 01:25:02

This, I think this is probably one of the greatest movies of all time.

Nathan: 01:25:06

I, I really do.

Nathan: 01:25:07

This is a five.

Nathan: 01:25:08

If I didn't say so, I did say it was a five.

Nathan: 01:25:10

I think we all, do we all give this fives?

Sam: 01:25:12

I gave it, I gave it four and a half, but still

Nathan: 01:25:15

Oh, that's right, you are the, I, four and a half, we'll

Nathan: 01:25:19

never have a perfect movie, will we?

Sam: 01:25:21

I had an English patient.

Sam: 01:25:22

I think I gave five.

Sam: 01:25:23

No, but all

Nathan: 01:25:24

of us give five.

Nathan: 01:25:25

Oh yeah, I see what you're saying.

Nathan: 01:25:26

So it is officially in our vault.

Nathan: 01:25:29

We will anoint it now.

SFX: 01:25:32

If you feel it, say so!

SFX: 01:25:34

But we'll do

Nathan: 01:25:35

it for real.

Nathan: 01:25:46

I wish you guys could see Sam's reaction when I play the Twister clip.

Sam: 01:25:51

That, that, god, that, that hits me to the core.

Sam: 01:25:54

That like, that's like, Brings out the, like, truck driving, like,

Sam: 01:25:56

hillbilly in me where I'm like, You

Bee: 01:25:58

were so right.

Bee: 01:25:59

You recommend, you were like, you have to watch the second trailer.

Bee: 01:26:02

And I didn't, I was like, Oh my God.

Nathan: 01:26:03

It was

Nathan: 01:26:04

incredible.

Nathan: 01:26:04

Yeah.

Nathan: 01:26:04

I need, I need to rewatch Twister the, at some

Nathan: 01:26:08

point in the next month before.

Nathan: 01:26:10

I

Bee: 01:26:10

watched it a few weeks ago.

Bee: 01:26:11

Did you know Twister is almost a perfect movie?

Bee: 01:26:14

Did you know that?

Bee: 01:26:15

It's fantastic.

Bee: 01:26:17

It comes from a time when The cast is

Nathan: 01:26:20

crazy in it.

Nathan: 01:26:20

Like, it's such a good cast.

Nathan: 01:26:22

It's just,

Bee: 01:26:23

I don't know why it's not held in higher regard.

Bee: 01:26:26

I really don't.

Bee: 01:26:27

There's so much movie in that movie.

Bee: 01:26:29

I

Sam: 01:26:29

liked it more than Independence Day, that summer of 96.

Sam: 01:26:33

I still

Bee: 01:26:33

like it more than Independence Day.

Bee: 01:26:35

I

Sam: 01:26:35

was actually underwhelmed by the film.

Sam: 01:26:37

Visual effects in Independence Day and it beat Twister.

Sam: 01:26:40

I mean, like Independence, I'm not going to like go, go into that, but

Sam: 01:26:43

like, it was fine, but Twister really like surprised me at how high octane.

Sam: 01:26:47

I loved it.

Sam: 01:26:48

You know, should

Nathan: 01:26:49

we just turn this into a all twister podcast?

Nathan: 01:26:54

Yeah.

Sam: 01:26:55

And Twist Twisters had better be incredible because

Sam: 01:26:58

I've like talked it up so much.

Sam: 01:26:59

Like I hope it doesn't let me down.

Bee: 01:27:01

When is Twisters coming out?

Sam: 01:27:03

July 19th.

Sam: 01:27:04

Hell yeah it is.

Sam: 01:27:05

Not that I've memorized that date or anything yet.

Bee: 01:27:10

Come back to the East Coast.

Bee: 01:27:11

Stay till July 19th so we can

Sam: 01:27:13

all go see it.

Sam: 01:27:13

Oh God, that'd be incredible.

Sam: 01:27:14

Yeah.

Sam: 01:27:15

Maybe.

Nathan: 01:27:20

All right.

Nathan: 01:27:20

I don't know if there's anything else to say here tonight.

Nathan: 01:27:23

We may have done it all.

Nathan: 01:27:26

We got another one last movie in the Mad Max franchise.

Nathan: 01:27:30

The, the new film from George Miller, Furiosa, a Mad Max saga, which is one

Nathan: 01:27:38

of the most anticipated movies for all of us, I think this year I think we're

Nathan: 01:27:41

all really looking forward to this.

Nathan: 01:27:43

Yeah, I can't wait.

Nathan: 01:27:45

I'm seeing it four days.

Nathan: 01:27:47

I think we're all seeing it this week.

Sam: 01:27:48

Yeah.

Sam: 01:27:49

Seeing it Thursday.

Nathan: 01:27:50

Me too.

Nathan: 01:27:51

All right.

Nathan: 01:27:54

I've had the hat.

Nathan: 01:27:55

This is the first movie I think we've seen in the theater, a new movie in the

Nathan: 01:28:00

theater on the podcast this, this year.

Nathan: 01:28:02

So, yeah, I think, well, it's not like we would

Bee: 01:28:05

do

Nathan: 01:28:05

it

Bee: 01:28:05

in

Nathan: 01:28:05

Q1.

Nathan: 01:28:07

I know.

Nathan: 01:28:08

The funny thing is also I've had the habit of All year.

Nathan: 01:28:11

We've been watching so many things on, on streaming and video on demand.

Nathan: 01:28:15

I have my notebook where I take notes constantly.

Nathan: 01:28:19

Like do I bring my notepad in to the theater, into the imax and like,

Nathan: 01:28:24

like start scribbling away at things?

Nathan: 01:28:26

'cause I'm really bad.

Nathan: 01:28:27

Other, I can stop you.

Nathan: 01:28:28

No one's stop me.

Sam: 01:28:30

It'd be funny if you, like, yell out for them to stop the projector,

Sam: 01:28:32

like, Hey, go back, I missed that line, I gotta get that note.

Sam: 01:28:35

They'd be like, who the fuck is this?

Nathan: 01:28:38

But do I bring my phone with a little, like, light?

Nathan: 01:28:40

No, don't, don't use

Bee: 01:28:42

your phone, no.

Bee: 01:28:42

I'm not gonna

Nathan: 01:28:43

do

Bee: 01:28:43

that.

Bee: 01:28:43

Don't do that.

Bee: 01:28:44

Nicole Kidman would be so mad at you.

Bee: 01:28:46

Oh

Sam: 01:28:46

my god.

Bee: 01:28:47

Ugh.

Sam: 01:28:48

We come to the theater.

Sam: 01:28:49

When the lights DM

Sam: 01:28:51

, Bee: I love that ad so much.

Sam: 01:28:54

I always,

Sam: 01:28:54

I always feel embarrassed by it.

Sam: 01:28:56

'cause it's like she's so thankful that everyone's there

Sam: 01:28:59

and I feel like embarrassed.

Sam: 01:29:00

I'm like, yes, I know, but like you're, you're, you're drawing attention.

Sam: 01:29:03

You're putting attention on the audience and I feel really awkward.

Sam: 01:29:05

Like,

Nathan: 01:29:06

I don't go to AMCs very much.

Nathan: 01:29:08

So

Bee: 01:29:09

that membership man talking about it's hard to pass up.

Sam: 01:29:11

Yeah.

Sam: 01:29:12

It's, it's good.

Sam: 01:29:12

It's just like everyone laughs when it comes on.

Sam: 01:29:14

'cause she's like, we can, it's Camp de It's camp.

Sam: 01:29:17

It is.

Sam: 01:29:17

Yeah.

Sam: 01:29:19

I love the SNL skit about it, by the way.

Sam: 01:29:21

It's great.

Bee: 01:29:21

Yes.

Bee: 01:29:22

I want to be that for Halloween this year.

Bee: 01:29:24

We should really wrap up this podcast.

Bee: 01:29:25

We're done.

Nathan: 01:29:27

There's nothing more to say.

Nathan: 01:29:27

We're going off the rails.

Nathan: 01:29:29

Okay.

Nathan: 01:29:30

Next week, Mad Max Furiosa.

Nathan: 01:29:32

Thanks everyone.

Nathan: 01:29:33

That's our show.

Nathan: 01:29:34

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